So AMD has made a RX580 replacement that cost what a 580 used to cost and performs the same as a RX580 and pulls the power of a RX580 (note the 5500 in the picture has an 8 pin connector - unencessary on a card that pulls under 150 watts). WCCF tech claims it has a "110TDP/150TBP" design, which if true, is a whopping 14 watts lower then a stock RX480, and slightly higher then a XFX 480 GTR black. Not impressive for 7nm navi.
Woooo? So much advancement....I think? I mean, go look at the 1650 benchmarks from when it came out. Take note of where the RX570 and RX580 are at. This new RX5500 isnt any faster. Poeple complain about nvidia all the time, but AMD seems to be very comfortable not moving an inch from where polaris once stood, and if this is the best they can shrink Navi down to, big navi doesnt look so rosy anymore.
That isnt exactly unusual. MSI has made AMD gaming laptops, the FX line, for many years. They even made them with bulldozer APUs and AMD dGPUs!
System Name | schweinestalle |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 3700 X |
Motherboard | Asus Prime - Pro X 570 + Asus PCI -E AC68 Dual Band Wi-Fi Adapter |
Cooling | Standard Air |
Memory | Kingston HyperX 2 x 16 gb DDR 4 3200mhz |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon 5700 XT 8 GB Strix |
Storage | Intel SSD 240 gb Speed Demon & WD 240 SSD Blue & WD 250 SSD & WD Green 500gb SSD & Seagate 1 TB Sata |
Display(s) | Asus XG 32 V ROG |
Case | Corsair AIR ATX |
Audio Device(s) | Realtech standard |
Power Supply | Corsair 850 Modular |
Mouse | CM Havoc |
Keyboard | Corsair Cherry Mechanical |
Software | Win 10 |
Benchmark Scores | Unigine_Superposition 4K ultra 7582 |
System Name | O-Clock |
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Processor | Intel Core i9-9900K @ 52x/49x 8c8t |
Motherboard | ASUS Maximus XI Gene |
Cooling | EK Quantum Velocity C+A, EK Quantum Vector C+A, CE 280, Monsta 280, GTS 280 all w/ A14 IP67 |
Memory | 2x16GB G.Skill TridentZ @3900 MHz CL16 |
Video Card(s) | EVGA RTX 2080 Ti XC Black |
Storage | Samsung 983 ZET 960GB, 2x WD SN850X 4TB |
Display(s) | Asus VG259QM |
Case | Corsair 900D |
Audio Device(s) | beyerdynamic DT 990 600Ω, Asus SupremeFX Hi-Fi 5.25", Elgato Wave 3 |
Power Supply | EVGA 1600 T2 w/ A14 IP67 |
Mouse | Logitech G403 Wireless (PMW3366) |
Keyboard | Monsgeek M5W w/ Cherry MX Silent Black RGBs |
Software | Windows 10 Pro 64 bit |
Benchmark Scores | https://hwbot.org/search/submissions/permalink?userId=92615&cpuId=5773 |
Are you crazy? I'm guessing we will see this MSRP in the $199-$249 range. It's an RX580 replacement and should sell for RX580 MSRP roughly.
EDIT: After some digging it looks like these might go even cheaper potentially down to $149.
RX-382..... Hey AMD, is it that hard to plug in an RX 480 into that Ryzen 7 3800X testbench? Why did you guys pair a RX 5500 with a R7 3800X and a RX 480 with an i7-5960X??? OF COURSE THE 5960X TAKES MORE POWER.
That's irrelevant. what matters is the overall performance/watt/mm2. and on that note Navi is very competitive because they are able to price it competitively while offering comparable performance. note how the rx5500m is 4.6Tflops vs 5.2Tflops desktop yet its a mobile 50-75watt tdp part(half the tdp). AMD is placing these in the market based on performance rather than the power/performance sweetspot.
Looks like AMD updated their product page with 150W instead of 110W. This is not good!
Processor | Ryzen 5600 |
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Motherboard | X570 I Aorus Pro |
Cooling | Deepcool AG400 |
Memory | HyperX Fury 2 x 8GB 3200 CL16 |
Video Card(s) | RX 6700 10GB SWFT 309 |
Storage | SX8200 Pro 512 / NV2 512 |
Display(s) | 24G2U |
Case | NR200P |
Power Supply | Ion SFX 650 |
Mouse | G703 (TTC Gold 60M) |
Keyboard | Keychron V1 (Akko Matcha Green) / Apex m500 (Gateron milky yellow) |
Software | W10 |
Unless these are literally from the bottom of the silicon barrel, those clocks don't scream high voltages to me.Might be 110W gpu only and 150W for whole graphics card. I hope that is not true though, 150W does not really make any sense unless amd is running it with higher than needed voltage and pushing the chip out of optimum operating area.
System Name | Main / HTPC |
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Processor | Ryzen 7 7800X3D / Ryzen 7 2700 |
Motherboard | Aorus B650M Elite AX/ B450i Aorus Pro Wifi |
Cooling | Lian-Li Galahad 360 / Wraith Spire |
Memory | Corsair Vengeance 2x16 6000MHz CL30 / HyperX Predator 2x8GB 3200MHz |
Video Card(s) | RTX 3080 FE / ARC A380 |
Storage | WD Black SN770 1TB / Sabrent Rocket 256GB |
Display(s) | Aorus FO32U2P / 39" Panasonic HDTV |
Case | Fractal Arc XL / Cougar QBX |
Audio Device(s) | Denon AVR-X2800H / Realtek ALC1220 |
Power Supply | Corsair RM850 / BeQuiet SFX Power 2 450W |
Mouse | Logitech G903 |
Keyboard | Drop Sense75 with WQ Studio Morandi's |
VR HMD | Rift S |
Software | Win 11 Pro 64Bit |
System Name | Boomer Master Race |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2Ghz - 5Ghz CPU |
Motherboard | MSI B650I Edge Wifi ITX Motherboard |
Cooling | CM 280mm AIO + 2x 120mm Slim fans |
Memory | Kingston Fury 32GB 6000Mhz |
Video Card(s) | ASUS RTX 4070 Super 12GB OC |
Storage | Samsung 980 Pro 2TB + WD 2TB 2.5in HDD |
Display(s) | Sony 4K Bravia X85J 43Inch TV 120Hz |
Case | CM NR200P Max TG ITX Case |
Audio Device(s) | Built In Realtek Digital Audio HD |
Power Supply | CoolerMaster V850 SFX Gold 850W PSU |
Mouse | Logitech G203 Lightsync |
Keyboard | Atrix RGB Slim Keyboard |
VR HMD | ( ◔ ʖ̯ ◔ ) |
Software | Windows 10 Home 64bit |
Benchmark Scores | Don't do them anymore. |
Instead of speculating, why not wait for benchmarks to come out then debate about performance (real) vs hypothetical.
System Name | Fujitsu Siemens, HP Workstation |
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Processor | Athlon x2 5000+ 3.1GHz, i5 2400 |
Motherboard | Asus |
Memory | 4GB Samsung |
Video Card(s) | rx 460 4gb |
Storage | 750 Evo 250 +2tb |
Display(s) | Asus 1680x1050 4K HDR |
Audio Device(s) | Pioneer |
Power Supply | 430W |
Mouse | Acme |
Keyboard | Trust |
System Name | Black Prometheus |
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Processor | |AMD Ryzen 7 1700 |
Motherboard | ASRock B550M Pro4|MSI X370 Gaming PLUS |
Cooling | Thermalright PA120 SE | AMD Stock Cooler |
Memory | G.Skill 64GB(2x32GB) 3200MHz | 32GB(4x8GB) DDR4 |
Video Card(s) | ASUS DirectCU II R9 290 4GB |
Storage | Sandisk X300 512GB + WD Black 6TB+WD Black 6TB |
Display(s) | LG Nanocell85 49" 4K 120Hz + ACER AOPEN 34" 3440x1440 144Hz |
Case | DeepCool Matrexx 55 V3 w/ 6x120mm Intake + 3x120mm Exhaust |
Audio Device(s) | LG Dolby Atmos 5.1 |
Power Supply | Corsair RMX850 Fully Modular| EVGA 750W G2 |
Mouse | Logitech Trackman |
Keyboard | Logitech K350 |
Software | Windows 10 EDU x64 |
Processor | 7800X3D 2x16GB CO |
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Motherboard | Asrock B650m HDV |
Cooling | Peerless Assassin SE |
Memory | 2x16GB DR A-die@6000c30 tuned |
Video Card(s) | Asus 4070 dual OC 2610@915mv |
Storage | WD blue 1TB nvme |
Display(s) | Lenovo G24-10 144Hz |
Case | Corsair D4000 Airflow |
Power Supply | EVGA GQ 650W |
Software | Windows 10 home 64 |
Benchmark Scores | Superposition 8k 5267 Aida64 58.5ns |
an 8 pin on a low end card... really?
Processor | AMD Ryzen 5 1600X (4.0 GHz @ 1.4V) |
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Motherboard | Asus ROG Strix X370-F Gaming |
Cooling | Scythe Mugen 5 with Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM |
Memory | 8 GBx2 Corsair Vengeance LPX (running at DDR4-2933, CAS 16) |
Video Card(s) | Asus GTX 1080 Turbo |
Storage | 1x 500 GB Samsung 850 EVO, 1x 1 TB Crucial MX500 M.2, 2x 3 TB Toshiba P300 7,200 RPM HDD |
Display(s) | 24" Acer R240HY |
Case | Phanteks Enthoo Pro M |
Audio Device(s) | Creative Sound Blaster Z + Sennheiser HD 558 |
Power Supply | EVGA Supernova G2 750W |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum |
Keyboard | Corsair STRAFE RGB (Cherry MX Brown) |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | Passmark System Score: 5252.4 |
Processor | AMD Ryzen 9 5900X ||| Intel Core i7-3930K |
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Motherboard | ASUS ProArt B550-CREATOR ||| Asus P9X79 WS |
Cooling | Noctua NH-U14S ||| Be Quiet Pure Rock |
Memory | Crucial 2 x 16 GB 3200 MHz ||| Corsair 8 x 8 GB 1333 MHz |
Video Card(s) | MSI GTX 1060 3GB ||| MSI GTX 680 4GB |
Storage | Samsung 970 PRO 512 GB + 1 TB ||| Intel 545s 512 GB + 256 GB |
Display(s) | Asus ROG Swift PG278QR 27" ||| Eizo EV2416W 24" |
Case | Fractal Design Define 7 XL x 2 |
Audio Device(s) | Cambridge Audio DacMagic Plus |
Power Supply | Seasonic Focus PX-850 x 2 |
Mouse | Razer Abyssus |
Keyboard | CM Storm QuickFire XT |
Software | Ubuntu |
Processor | Ryzen 5700x |
---|---|
Motherboard | Gigabyte X570S Aero G R1.1 BiosF5g |
Cooling | Noctua NH-C12P SE14 w/ NF-A15 HS-PWM Fan 1500rpm |
Memory | Micron DDR4-3200 2x32GB D.S. D.R. (CT2K32G4DFD832A) |
Video Card(s) | AMD RX 6800 - Asus Tuf |
Storage | Kingston KC3000 1TB & 2TB & 4TB Corsair MP600 Pro LPX |
Display(s) | LG 27UL550-W (27" 4k) |
Case | Be Quiet Pure Base 600 (no window) |
Audio Device(s) | Realtek ALC1220-VB |
Power Supply | SuperFlower Leadex V Gold Pro 850W ATX Ver2.52 |
Mouse | Mionix Naos Pro |
Keyboard | Corsair Strafe with browns |
Software | W10 22H2 Pro x64 |
Where did you see this is a RX580 replacement? That is what the RX 5700 is, and the RX 5700 XT would replace the RX 590. This is more like a RX550/RX560 replacement based on the naming scheme. I estimate 120-150$ MSRP for the 4GB (150-180$ for 8GB) version assuming: between the RX 5700 and RX 5500, there will be an RX 5600; 180-210$ assuming there is no RX 5600.
RX-382..... Hey AMD, is it that hard to plug in an RX 480 into that Ryzen 7 3800X testbench? Why did you guys pair a RX 5500 with a R7 3800X and a RX 480 with an i7-5960X??? OF COURSE THE 5960X TAKES MORE POWER.
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System Name | Miami |
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Processor | Ryzen 3800X |
Motherboard | Asus Crosshair VII Formula |
Cooling | Ek Velocity/ 2x 280mm Radiators/ Alphacool fullcover |
Memory | F4-3600C16Q-32GTZNC |
Video Card(s) | XFX 6900 XT Speedster 0 |
Storage | 1TB WD M.2 SSD/ 2TB WD SN750/ 4TB WD Black HDD |
Display(s) | DELL AW3420DW / HP ZR24w |
Case | Lian Li O11 Dynamic XL |
Audio Device(s) | EVGA Nu Audio |
Power Supply | Seasonic Prime Gold 1000W+750W |
Mouse | Corsair Scimitar/Glorious Model O- |
Keyboard | Corsair K95 Platinum |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
FTFY. Non s cards have been discontinued afaik.So by the pricing current Turing stack up:
- Low end: GTX1650 $149
- Lower Midrange: GTX1660 $219
- Midrange: GTX1660 ti $279, RTX 2060S $399
- Upper Mid range: RTX 2070S $499
- High End: RTX 2080S $699
- Because money: RTX 2080 ti $1299
- Prosumer: Titan RTX $2499
Processor | AMD Ryzen 3800X / AMD 8350 |
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Motherboard | ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming X / Gigabyte 990FXA-UD5 Revision 3.0 |
Cooling | Stock / Corsair H100 |
Memory | 32GB / 24GB |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire RX 6800 / AMD Radeon 290X (Toggling until 6950XT) |
Storage | C:\ 1TB SSD, D:\ RAID-1 1TB SSD, 2x4TB-RAID-1 |
Display(s) | Samsung U32E850R |
Case | be quiet! Dark Base Pro 900 Black rev. 2 / Fractal Design |
Audio Device(s) | Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi |
Power Supply | EVGA Supernova 1300G2 / EVGA Supernova 850G+ |
Mouse | Logitech M-U0007 |
Keyboard | Logitech G110 / Logitech G110 |
So AMD has made a RX580 replacement that cost what a 580 used to cost and performs the same as a RX580 and pulls the power of a RX580 (note the 5500 in the picture has an 8 pin connector - unencessary on a card that pulls under 150 watts). WCCF tech claims it has a "110TDP/150TBP" design, which if true, is a whopping 14 watts lower then a stock RX480, and slightly higher then a XFX 480 GTR black. Not impressive for 7nm navi.
Woooo? So much advancement....I think? I mean, go look at the 1650 benchmarks from when it came out. Take note of where the RX570 and RX580 are at. This new RX5500 isnt any faster. Poeple complain about nvidia all the time, but AMD seems to be very comfortable not moving an inch from where polaris once stood, and if this is the best they can shrink Navi down to, big navi doesnt look so rosy anymore.
That isnt exactly unusual. MSI has made AMD gaming laptops, the FX line, for many years. They even made them with bulldozer APUs and AMD dGPUs!
System Name | Ciel |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen R5 5600X |
Motherboard | Asus Tuf Gaming B550 Plus |
Cooling | ID-Cooling 224-XT Basic |
Memory | 2x 16GB Kingston Fury 3600MHz@3933MHz |
Video Card(s) | Gainward Ghost 3060 Ti 8GB + Sapphire Pulse RX 6600 8GB |
Storage | NVMe Kingston KC3000 2TB + NVMe Toshiba KBG40ZNT256G + HDD WD 4TB |
Display(s) | AOC Q27G3XMN + Samsung S22F350 |
Case | Cougar MX410 Mesh-G |
Audio Device(s) | Kingston HyperX Cloud Stinger Core 7.1 Wireless PC |
Power Supply | Aerocool KCAS-500W |
Mouse | EVGA X15 |
Keyboard | VSG Alnilam |
Software | Windows 11 |
System Name | PCGOD |
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Processor | AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz |
Motherboard | Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios |
Cooling | Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED |
Memory | 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V) |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X |
Storage | Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB |
Display(s) | NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter) |
Case | AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition |
Audio Device(s) | Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR |
Power Supply | Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3) |
Mouse | Roccat Kone XTD |
Keyboard | Roccat Ryos MK Pro |
Software | Windows 7 Pro 64 |
I would expect the entry level (RTX2060) gaming card to cost 200 - 250 dollars/euro.
The mid level (RTX2070) card to be about 350 - 400 - 450.
The high level (RTX2080) card to be about 600 dollar.
The ultra high end (RTX2080Ti) card to be about 750 dollar.
ya know.... like it used to be before the rediculous price jumps.
Processor | Ryzen 5 1600 3.8GHz@1.331V |
---|---|
Motherboard | ASUS Strix B350-F |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15 |
Memory | Kingston HyperX Fury DDR4 16G*2 3000MHz CL16 @1.35V |
Video Card(s) | Msi RTX 2070 Super Gaming Z Trio |
Storage | WD Blue 500G SSD*1 WD Black 2TB*1 |
Display(s) | ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q |
Case | Lian Li O11D XL |
Audio Device(s) | Edifier C3X |
Power Supply | Corsair RM750x |
Mouse | logitech G102 with modded micro switchs |
Benchmark Scores | Time Spy 9943 |
System Name | masina |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 5 3600 |
Motherboard | ASUS TUF B550M |
Cooling | Scythe Kabuto 3 + Arctic BioniX P120 fan |
Memory | 16GB (2x8) DDR4-3200 CL16 Crucial Ballistix |
Video Card(s) | Radeon Pro WX 2100 2GB |
Storage | 500GB Crucial MX500, 640GB WD Black |
Display(s) | AOC C24G1 |
Case | SilentiumPC AT6V |
Power Supply | Seasonic Focus GX 650W |
Mouse | Logitech G203 |
Keyboard | Cooler Master MasterKeys L PBT |
Software | Win 10 Pro |
What is interesting is the 12% absolute performance over the RX480, pretty good considering ~30% less shaders. However the RX 570 4GB models have been going on sale here for $155 Canadian on the low end. I wonder what the absolute fps/$ will be vs an RX570 4GB?
I would like to see how it performs with video playback, and encoding/decoding vs an RX570 4GB.