AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3960X a 24-core Chip the Range Starts With

[candle_86]

I agree with @ZoneDymo here, the naming scheme is a little confusing, but as @The Egg said, we're trying to understand a marketing department.
Think the main problem is they've squeezed the numbers together too much. It "feels" too "squished" in my head, like they're implying there's little difference between a 12-core 3900X and a 24-core 3960X.

There likey isnt much difference except in a very narrow range of software. Your average user wouldn't feel a difference between an 8 core a 64core cpu

 

[Vayra86]

The naming scheme is.... well stupid tbh.
3700x 8 core
3800x 8 core but "more overclockable"
3900x 12 cores
39...50?x 16 cores...

should have been 3700x - 3750x - 3800x - 3900x

anywho, screwed themselves? who says they are planning to launch a 12 or 16 core cpu for the new TR platform?

AMD and marketing man. You should know by now. They always find some way to make it worse or ineffective. So far I think Zen's marketing is quite fine, but yes. This makes zero sense. As if they didn't know beforehand what the product stack was gonna look like, and then looked at yields and started thinking.

But then again, Intel has a knack for it too. Its probably, actually far worse if you consider the numbers they use. I mean sure, the i prefix and (KFSYU) suffixes kinda work but the rest? And they top it off by half skipping gens left and right. I mean, 8/9/10th gen... wtf happened. Broadwell... wtf happened.

 

[Tomgang]

So now the question is, what shall replace my old I7 980X/X58?

Do I go for Ryzen 9 3950X/X570, Threadripper 3960X/TX40 or core I9 10980XE/X299. Cause I will be upgrading this November/December and will not wait for lower core count threadripper.

It's just 24 cores or more are overkill for my needs, but the ekstra lanes and quad-channel memory threadripper offers would be nice to have and offers PCIe gen 4. But at a higher price tag for motherboard and cpu.

Ryzen has the cores i need with 16 cores, but only dual channel memory and less lanes. But the cheapest solution.

Intel's offer is only pcie gen 3 and 14 nm, so honestly that doesn't draw me in so much as it is now.

Choises Choises so many choices. I personally mostly vote for ryzen 9 3950X for my next setup, but It would also be nice to have those ekstra lanes and memory channels. Choices Choises

 

[KarymidoN]

So now the question is, what shall replace my old I7 980X/X58?

Do I go for Ryzen 9 3950X/X570, Threadripper 3960X/TX40 or core I9 10980XE/X299. Cause I will be upgrading this November/December and will not wait for lower core count threadripper.

It's just 24 cores or more are overkill for my needs, but the ekstra lanes and quad-channel memory threadripper offers would be nice to have and offers PCIe gen 4. But at a higher price tag for motherboard and cpu.

Ryzen has the cores i need with 16 cores, but only dual channel memory and less lanes. But the cheapest solution.

Intel's offer is only pcie gen 3 and 14 nm, so honestly that doesn't draw me in so much as it is now.

Choises Choises so many choices. I personally mostly vote for ryzen 9 3950X for my next setup, but It would also be nice to have those ekstra lanes and memory channels. Choices Choises

assuming the strugles of intel continue you better off get an AMD TR4, entry level, good motherboard, even the new intel 10XXX series will still be 14nm ++++++ so old tecnology, fewer lanes, etc.

 

[mashie]

So what is the maximum amount of RAM we can expect the 3rd gen Threadrippers to support, 256GB non-ECC?

 

[phill]

So now the question is, what shall replace my old I7 980X/X58?

Do I go for Ryzen 9 3950X/X570, Threadripper 3960X/TX40 or core I9 10980XE/X299. Cause I will be upgrading this November/December and will not wait for lower core count threadripper.

It's just 24 cores or more are overkill for my needs, but the ekstra lanes and quad-channel memory threadripper offers would be nice to have and offers PCIe gen 4. But at a higher price tag for motherboard and cpu.

Ryzen has the cores i need with 16 cores, but only dual channel memory and less lanes. But the cheapest solution.

Intel's offer is only pcie gen 3 and 14 nm, so honestly that doesn't draw me in so much as it is now.

Choises Choises so many choices. I personally mostly vote for ryzen 9 3950X for my next setup, but It would also be nice to have those ekstra lanes and memory channels. Choices Choises

My thoughts would be, how much do you want to spend and just go from there

Personally I can't wait for the reviews and just to see how good AMD's are compared to the Intel's 'latest'... I think I'm just set on AMD hardware if I'm honest, they have showed so much promise and such a performance increase, I think it would be daft to ignore them... Oh and the price....

 

[Tsukiyomi91]

if this processor can compete with a price tag going slightly over a grand, Intel's 10th Gen HEDT is gonna get threatened.

 

[kapone32]

X399 and Threadripper 2 processors might be the replacement for some people's i7 9x0 builds, which have lasted an extremely long time, while still being quick enough for their needs. Personally, I'm going to invest in an X399 build, if I can gather the money, and keep it for as long as possible. My Phenom II X6 has lasted this long, and only now needs replacing, so hoping for similar from a TR2.

If you are going from Phenom to TR4 be prepared to be gobsmacked. Even the 1900X would blow the Phenom chips away. I currently have a 1920X but am waiting for the 2920X to drop in price.

I'm starting to wonder if there exist any scenario or situation when you'd stop defending AMD.

Ryzen 3000 work on first-gen AM4 motherboards, so there's no reason why TR 3000 wouldn't work on first-gen TR4 motherboards.
AMD is doing the exact same thing that Intel's being so criticized all the time for on this forum.

Seriously, some people here should just practice self-respect.

There is a reason PCI_E 4.0. Unlike Ryzen that really only has the top M2 slot and the first X16 slot wired to the CPU so that is 20. Of the 64 lanes on TR4 60 are tied to the CPU.

 

[Ripper3]

There likey isnt much difference except in a very narrow range of software. Your average user wouldn't feel a difference between an 8 core a 64core cpu

True, though the definition of an average user that builds their own HEDT is probably someone that knows what they're looking at, so feeling like the numbers are squished together just won't matter, they'll look at the specs first, before bothering to check the name. My comment was just a personal thing, and you're right, most software is still better suited to lower core counts at higher speeds, thus there's little difference to be felt for most people.

If you are going from Phenom to TR4 be prepared to be gobsmacked. Even the 1900X would blow the Phenom chips away. I currently have a 1920X but am waiting for the 2920X to drop in price.

In the office, I'm supplied an SFF workstation with i7 and a Quadro card. First workstation had an i7 860, and that was already pretty speedy, but bogged down with lack of RAM and HDDs (granted, Velociraptors, but still not as fast as many SSDs). Current is an i7 6700 with 32GB RAM and a decent enough SSD. About to switch to an i7 8700 with 32GB RAM and 512GB NVMe SSD. Yet my little Phenom still feels fast enough for what I do at home, especially since ditching Windows for day-to-day stuff.
Saying that, I can't wait to fire up a TR2 system.

 

[kapone32]

True, though the definition of an average user that builds their own HEDT is probably someone that knows what they're looking at, so feeling like the numbers are squished together just won't matter, they'll look at the specs first, before bothering to check the name. My comment was just a personal thing, and you're right, most software is still better suited to lower core counts at higher speeds, thus there's little difference to be felt for most people.


In the office, I'm supplied an SFF workstation with i7 and a Quadro card. First workstation had an i7 860, and that was already pretty speedy, but bogged down with lack of RAM and HDDs (granted, Velociraptors, but still not as fast as many SSDs). Current is an i7 6700 with 32GB RAM and a decent enough SSD. About to switch to an i7 8700 with 32GB RAM and 512GB NVMe SSD. Yet my little Phenom still feels fast enough for what I do at home, especially since ditching Windows for day-to-day stuff.
Saying that, I can't wait to fire up a TR2 system.

If you are on Linux at home you will be even more stoked. If cost is a factor the As Rock X399 Phantom Gaming 6 has an MSRP of $249.99 (US) and you can currently get a 1900X for around $300. TR2 will be even better, I am willing to bet that the 2920X will be under $400 (US) when the 3950X launches and the 2950X should be $500--600.