Intel to Halve Prices of 7th and 9th Gen "Skylake-X" HEDT Processors

[kapone32]

What's the 4 core variant worth now?
Maybe low enough to feature on tech yes city.

Yes but that only provides you with 24 lanes of PCI_E better to get AM4 at that point X299 boards will remain at their current $350-600 pricing.

 

[Deathy]

were I to choose between x570 and 3700x or x299 and 9800x at the same price I'd choose intel probably,better memory compability and quad channel.

And you can even get rid of your room heater, since the 9800x produces about double the heat compared to the 3700x non overclocked alone. And they are both as fast, unless the memory bandwidth plays a significant role (and L3 doesn't). Cheapest X299 mainboard is also 200€ here and cheapest B450 mainboard with BIOS flashback is 80€. Also, what does the Intel have about better memory compatibility? Do you live in Ryzen 1000 land? I've thrown random Micron rev E at my 3700x and 2600 in the 16GB variants (two and four modules) and they've run well and easily overclocked (3200C18 @ 3533C16 and 3000C15 @ 3800C16).

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

its a BOGO SALE!






Buy 1, Get 1 FREE!

 

[kapone32]

On a side note for this if they indeed slash prices to the point of competing with AM4 for a complete build (CPU+MB) it may make current owners of Intel's older generations to move up to this. I counted about 20 CPUs you can use with X299 MBs.

 

[cucker tarlson]

Please,take a look at threads on memory compability issues around tpu, they're almost exclusively amd,including 3000.
If you think I'm making it up you can just check ya know?


It seems the price cuts are already in effect here.9800x is 1730pln now,was 2500pln before.beats 3800x by a couple of bucks but still 3700x is 1500-1600.

 

[EarthDog]

lease,take a look at threads on memory compability issues around tpu, they're almost exclusively amd,including 3000.
If you think I'm making it up you can just check ya know?

3 series memory compatibility is a lot better than 1st/1st+ generations. That said, compared to intel, it has issues. Intel you can plug a potato in the slots and it would work. With AMD, the best advice still is to stick to the QVL lists.

 

[The Egg]

Half of Intel's originally astronomical price isn't good enuf. Will people even bother with x299 when AMD still givers more performance per dollar than Intel's halved prices.

Before even considering Intel's halved prices be sure to check out AMD performance per dollar and you also get PCIe 4.0

Sure PCIe 4.0 may not be a must tech today but you have to think a couple of years down the line when building a new system.

ALSO by NOT buying Intel you are sending a clear message to Intel that even half price of their originally astronomical prices is too expensive and they have to match or even go below AMD's performance per dollar to be relevant in the future.

Warning: Multiple font sizes and styles detected. This post has been flagged as a possible religious/political email forward from grandma.

 

[cucker tarlson]

3 series memory compatibility is a lot better than 1st/1st+ generations. That said, compared to intel, it has issues. Intel you can plug a potato in the slots and it would work. With AMD, the best advice still is to stick to the QVL lists.

I think any 2x8 GB kit will work on 3000.but 4 sticks,higher speed is another story.there's the question of fclk too

 

[EarthDog]

think any 2x8 GB kit will work on 3000.but 4 sticks,higher speed is another story.there's the questions od fclk too

I don't care to get into the nitty gritty with anyone here (and add my anecdote of that not working with a couple of kits I have)... just stating the facts at a high level and moving on.

 

[ratirt]

Please,take a look at threads on memory compability issues around tpu, they're almost exclusively amd,including 3000.
If you think I'm making it up you can just check ya know?


It seems the price cuts are already in effect here.9800x is 1730pln now,was 2500pln before.beats 3800x by a couple of bucks but still 3700x is 1500-1600.

I don't think this is that much of an issue. You just buy memory that works with the processor. I think you are making this a bigger issue than it is in reality.

 

[cucker tarlson]

I don't think this is that much of an issue. You just buy memory that works with the processor. I think you are making this a bigger issue than it is in reality.

Well if we're talking reality then it's usually good to have any kit working since you can buy cheaper and have oc room at the same time.
It's like I'm making up the story that not all imc are the same.

 

[R0H1T]

You'd have to go back a really long way to see this kind of price reduction destruction from any of the major x86 chipmakers
In fact I don't remember the last time this happened possibly with the exception of FX 9570/90 or i7 6950x - which were both way overpriced, for what they actually offered.

 

[kapone32]

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You'd have to go back a really long way to see this kind of price reduction destruction from any of the major x86 chipmakers
In fact I don't remember the last time this happened possibly with the exception of FX 9570/90 or i7 6950x - which were both way overpriced, for what they actually offered.

Wow based on this no Intel HEDT chip will go above $1000. This list does not even include the entire lineup of the chips. Not that it makes sense for HEDT but I wonder if the chips beneath this will fall in price as well.

 

[thesmokingman]

Please,take a look at threads on memory compability issues around tpu, they're almost exclusively amd,including 3000.
If you think I'm making it up you can just check ya know?


It seems the price cuts are already in effect here.9800x is 1730pln now,was 2500pln before.beats 3800x by a couple of bucks but still 3700x is 1500-1600.

Users will always have individual issues. If yer biased to Intel, that's your choice. But don't go around acting as if issues you've read about affect everyone as they do not. You don't have to justify your bias' to anyone ya know.

 

[cucker tarlson]

Users will always have individual issues. If yer biased to Intel, that's your choice. But don't go around acting as if issues you've read about affect everyone as they do not. You don't have to justify your bias' to anyone ya know.

I haven't seen a user who had an issue other than an individual one.
Reocurring issue is one that many individual users have.

 

[EarthDog]

Users will always have individual issues. If yer biased to Intel, that's your choice. But don't go around acting as if issues you've read about affect everyone as they do not. You don't have to justify your bias' to anyone ya know.

I don't think there is a sane and 'woke' soul around that can sit here with a straight face and say AMD Ryzen isn't more finicky with memory than Intel. Zen was a nightmare out of the box but improved (new platform, makes sense). Zen+ was also finicky, but not nearly as much as Zen. Zen 2 was even less finicky, but still more compared to Intel. It really is that simple.

 

[thesmokingman]

I don't think there is a sane and 'woke' soul around that can sit here with a straight face and say AMD Ryzen isn't more finicky with memory than Intel. Zen was a nightmare out of the box but improved (new platform, makes sense). Zen+ was also finicky, but not nearly as much as Zen. Zen 2 was even less finicky, but still more compared to Intel. It really is that simple.

There are memory kits that work perfectly well with Zen. I swapped my old b-die from skylake x into a Ryzen 3 build w/o one hiccup. Now if you choose to go with a different type (individual user choice), you will be taking on some effort to deal with the compatibility issues. And in context it IS a new platform that is maturing compared to Intel whose sitting on the same controller that they'd been fine tuning for a decade. That said, it's not something that keeps me up at night or prevent me from going one route or the other.

As this post says you guys are making it out to be a deal breaker when it's not. No one's telling that guy I quoted to bUy AMD. He implied AMD is crap therefor he'll still buy Intel when really it is that he prefers Intel. There's not a thing wrong with bias, just don't wrap it around bs.

I don't think this is that much of an issue. You just buy memory that works with the processor. I think you are making this a bigger issue than it is in reality.

 

[cucker tarlson]

There are memory kits that work perfectly well with Zen. I swapped my old b-die from skylake x into a Ryzen 3 build w/o one hiccup. Now if you choose to go with a different type (individual user choice), you will be taking on some effort to deal with the compatibility issues. And in context it IS a new platform that is maturing compared to Intel whose sitting on the same controller that they'd been fine tuning for a decade. That said, it's not something that keeps me up at night or prevent me from going one route or the other.

As this post says you guys are making it out to be a deal breaker when it's not. No one's telling that guy I quoted to bUy AMD. He implied AMD is crap therefor he'll still buy Intel when really it is that he prefers Intel. There's not a thing wrong with bias, just don't wrap it around bs.

no one implied amd is crap in the whole thread except for you imagining the whole world spins around either red or blue team.
it took a 50% price drop for most people to even consider buying a s.2066 one,that says a lot.
yes intel has a better imc,they've had ddr4 since 2014 so it's no surprise it's polished.

 

[EarthDog]

There are memory kits that work perfectly well with Zen. I swapped my old b-die from skylake x into a Ryzen 3 build w/o one hiccup. Now if you choose to go with a different type (individual user choice), you will be taking on some effort to deal with the compatibility issues. And in context it IS a new platform that is maturing compared to Intel whose sitting on the same controller that they'd been fine tuning for a decade. That said, it's not something that keeps me up at night or prevent me from going one route or the other.

As this post says you guys are making it out to be a deal breaker when it's not. No one's telling that guy I quoted to bUy AMD. He implied AMD is crap therefor he'll still buy Intel when really it is that he prefers Intel. There's not a thing wrong with bias, just don't wrap it around bs.

Of course there are memory kits that work perfectly well with Zen... Nobody has said otherwise!!!! All I was saying in plain English was that there are more compatibility issues with AMD Ryzen than with Intel... really really simple concept.

Nobody is trying to make a big deal about it... at least not me... but the fact remains that generally speaking, Intel has less issues with memory (for whatever reason). Again, not saying AMD has a lot, but it is, in fact, something you need to consider more versus Intel.

Again, it isn't a deal breaker... not sure who said or inferred that...this all started with the words "better compatibility" and a "trouble free" experience. Neither of those are false, nor are they blown out of proportion. Intel does have better compatibility and you will have a greater chance at a trouble free experience (not that the chance with either is high, especially if you stick to the QVL). With Intel you can go off the script (QVL) and have more chance at success than with AMD.

 

[Bones]

Half of Intel's originally astronomical price isn't good enuf. Will people even bother with x299 when AMD still givers more performance per dollar than Intel's halved prices.

Before even considering Intel's halved prices be sure to check out AMD performance per dollar and you also get PCIe 4.0

Sure PCIe 4.0 may not be a must tech today but you have to think a couple of years down the line when building a new system.

ALSO by NOT buying Intel you are sending a clear message to Intel that even half price of their originally astronomical prices is too expensive and they have to match or even go below AMD's performance per dollar to be relevant in the future.

To sum up:
Vote with your wallet.

 

[HD64G]

What other proof anyone needs that AMD is on the lead already? And they will stay there until at least 2021. Zen2 decimated Intel so much that they went panic mode in all fronts.

 

[Bobmitmen]

I already own an X299 motherboard. Much more expensive to convert over to AMD at this time. If the halve pricing is real...then a 12 core / 24 thread or 16 core / 32 thread is realistic for me. Would really like an AMD 3900X on new MB, but cost way over replacing my i7 7820X

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

no,I'm taking into account what matters to me.
trouble free experience is on par with performance per dollar.
if perf per dollar is same as amd,I'd go intel any day.
also,more 3.0 lanes > less 4.0 lanes.better have two x16,one x8 and one x4 at 3.0 than one x16 and one x4 at 4.0

Exactly, why these thread's turn into Bs.

Get out of you're head , the rest of the world is not your perspective or use case.

And your original post started a page of non intel price cut Bs, have a think.

 

[EarthDog]

Exactly, why these thread's turn into Bs.

Because the over passionate want to argue semantics and get all butt hurt when something that smells negative is said about their product? I agree. But hey, such as forum life.

 

[MrPotatoHead]

were I to choose between x570 and 3700x or x299 and 9800x at the same price I'd choose intel probably,better memory compability and quad channel.

No love for TR1/2? comparing AMD consumer to Intel HEDT now that Intel is cutting their prices, how gracious and humble of you, I believe TR1 and TR2 will cater to your needs for quad channel RAM and PCI-E lanes, oh and they can also be had for a snip of their release price which was still way better than x299, I'ma look for your previous comments praising AMD HEDT for kickin Intel's butt in price and performance...