Intel to Halve Prices of 7th and 9th Gen "Skylake-X" HEDT Processors

[LFaWolf]

YES! I was betting that Intel will cut HEDT prices due to competition. I am in the process of building 3 x299 machines and my intuition was right! Thought about going AMD but it just was too finicky for my (work) use case.

INTC just reported earnings and revenue is up and outlook guidance is also up by $1.5B.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/intel-stock-rallies-as-results-outlook-top-street-view-2019-10-24

AMD really has a long way to go. Almost a decade of incompetence created this monster and unless Intel goes incompetence for a long time, AMD will never catch up.

Profit Margin:
Intel: 28%
Nvidia: 27%
AMD??? 3.25%
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/AMD/key-statistics?p=AMD

Intel can easily cut prices in half for a market that they don't expect to sell too much, and still has more net income than AMD has in revenue. And Intel does not even make GPUs!

 

[Renald]

Already on moved on to AMD, and not planning on renewing my rig until at least 5-8 years (for CPU). My 3700X is way above what I need right now and I won't need any upgrade soon, seeing how gaming and desktop applications are either not demanding on CPU or not optimized for your platform.
It's quite useless to change your CPU unless you have special needs at this stage of performance.

Intel or AMD doesn't matter. AMD offers better for less money, so I chose them this time (last time it was Intel)

 

[Vya Domus]

AMD really has a long way to go. Almost a decade of incompetence created this monster and unless Intel goes incompetence for a long time, AMD will never catch up.

Profit Margin:
Intel: 28%
Nvidia: 27%
AMD??? 3.25%
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/AMD/key-statistics?p=AMD

Intel can easily cut prices in half for a market that they don't expect to sell too much, and still has more net income than AMD has in revenue. And Intel does not even make GPUs!

As a valid strategy, cutting prices only works if the product is at the very least somewhat equal. For Intel, believe it or not, that is not applicable because third generation TR CPUs are simply going to be superior products in pretty much every aspect, including performance/$. You can give out your product for free, if it's not up to the task you're going to be forced to buy the superior and potentially much more expensive CPU.

Cutting prices thinking that you have money to spare and you can afford to sell stuff potentially at a loss or with very low margins is a moronic strategy, only through a great deal of incompetence you reach such a situation.

Oh, and Intel is still venturing into all sorts of fantastical fields and markets burning cash like crazy. The stuff's still finite at the end of the day, billions can totally turn into millions in a split second if a lot of bad choices pile up.

 

[LFaWolf]

As a valid strategy, cutting prices only works if the product is at the very least somewhat equal. For Intel, believe it or not, that is not applicable because third generation TR CPUs are simply going to be superior products in pretty much every aspect, including performance/$. You can give out your product for free, if it's not up to the task you're going to be forced to buy the superior and potentially much more expensive CPU.

Cutting prices thinking that you have money to spare and you can afford to sell stuff potentially at a loss or with very low margins is a moronic strategy, only through a great deal of incompetence you reach such a situation.

Oh, and Intel is still venturing into all sorts of fantastical fields and markets burning cash like crazy. The stuff's still finite at the end of the day, billions can totally turn into millions in a split second if a lot of bad choices pile up.

You are ignoring one big factor - brand name recognition. Years of advertising and de facto choice among consumers and business buyers have propelled Intel too far ahead of AMD. If Intel cuts their prices to close just a bit of the performance per $ gap, guess which brand is the more attractive buy?

Performance per $ matters more to regular consumers than business buyers. And yet again, for regular consumers, performance or a better buy, easily gives way to brand name recognition. Why do you think Intel blitzed the consumer market with endless advertising? When is the last time you see AMD ad on TV? Remember the familiar Intel logo and music? I am telling you, most PC home buyers know about this -

HEDT is already a niche market. For business buyers that require the power of HEDT, performance per dollar also ranks lower than brand name recognition, and even more so than stability, which is the reason why I chose Intel. Intel HEDT also comes with AVX-512, which many high performance applications are starting to leverage now.

Who cares most about performance per $ on HEDT? Tech people, which unfortunately, count only as a small percentage of the buyers.

Don't diminish the power of brand name, and that mountain of cash

 

[ratirt]

You are ignoring one big factor - brand name recognition. Years of advertising and de facto choice among consumers and business buyers have propelled Intel too far ahead of AMD. If Intel cuts their prices to close just a bit of the performance per $ gap, guess which brand is the more attractive buy?

Performance per $ matters more to regular consumers than business buyers. And yet again, for regular consumers, performance or a better buy, easily gives way to brand name recognition. Why do you think Intel blitzed the consumer market with endless advertising? When is the last time you see AMD ad on TV? Remember the familiar Intel logo and music? I am telling you, most PC home buyers know about this -

HEDT is already a niche market. For business buyers that require the power of HEDT, performance per dollar also ranks lower than brand name recognition, and even more so than stability, which is the reason why I chose Intel. Intel HEDT also comes with AVX-512, which many high performance applications are starting to leverage now.

Who cares most about performance per $ on HEDT? Tech people, which unfortunately, count only as a small percentage of the buyers.

Don't diminish the power of brand name, and that mountain of cash

They are both recognizable Intel and AMD. Not sure what is your point here. Performance per $ matter more to business than a regular buyer consumer like you and I. Companies rely on PC equipment and this is a big a deal for them when they buy it for a lot of cash because they buy in bulk not one item, that the performance and price is correct. Saying that brand recognition has a better impact on companies than performance per $ is just crazy bro. If that's the case for the a company then you wont be seeing it for long though. AVX-512 is being used not by many but few. Maybe it is getting traction now but not as much as core number in the processor which is basically being used for everything. AVX-512 appliance is only for certain application.
Performance per $ is the most important thing for the companies than an individual like you. I totally disagree with you on basically every aspect.
That mountain of cash is there because of the performance per $. It can vanish as fast as it appeared.

 

[HwGeek]

I can confirm price drops for current X299- in Israel the i9 9980XE just got 50% price drop, keep checking your local stores if same.
is cost just x1.8 more then 9900K now lol.
Also the local stores confirm that they got new quotes from their supplier for massive price cuts on x299.

 

[Sabishii Hito]

Still waiting on Micro Center to drop prices so I can snatch a 9980xe.

 

[killster1]

I already own an X299 motherboard. Much more expensive to convert over to AMD at this time. If the halve pricing is real...then a 12 core / 24 thread or 16 core / 32 thread is realistic for me. Would really like an AMD 3900X on new MB, but cost way over replacing my i7 7820X

they have crazy low priced motherboards for the 3900x no worries with that you most likely would make some money selling your old x299. I havnt seen what motherboards have come out in the last 1 month tho i been busy playing, today first day back to work so i get to play on the msg board i love intel but running all amd right now, didnt have any big memory issues but i did have to tweak the settings a little for my sets, (but im just running 2x16gb 3200mhz) nothing special.