• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

AMD Announces Mini PC Initiative, Brings the Fight to Intel in Yet Another Product Segment

Raevenlord

News Editor
Joined
Aug 12, 2016
Messages
3,755 (1.23/day)
Location
Portugal
System Name The Ryzening
Processor AMD Ryzen 9 5900X
Motherboard MSI X570 MAG TOMAHAWK
Cooling Lian Li Galahad 360mm AIO
Memory 32 GB G.Skill Trident Z F4-3733 (4x 8 GB)
Video Card(s) Gigabyte RTX 3070 Ti
Storage Boot: Transcend MTE220S 2TB, Kintson A2000 1TB, Seagate Firewolf Pro 14 TB
Display(s) Acer Nitro VG270UP (1440p 144 Hz IPS)
Case Lian Li O11DX Dynamic White
Audio Device(s) iFi Audio Zen DAC
Power Supply Seasonic Focus+ 750 W
Mouse Cooler Master Masterkeys Lite L
Keyboard Cooler Master Masterkeys Lite L
Software Windows 10 x64
AMD is wading into even deeper waters across Intel's markets with the announcement of new Mini-PCs powered by the company's AMD Ryzen embedded V1000 and R1000 processors. Mini PCs, powered by AMD Ryzen Embedded V1000 and R1000 processors. Multiple partners such as ASRock Industrial, EEPD, OnLogic and Simply NUC have already designed their own takes on Mini-PCs (comparable to Intel's NUC, Next unit of Computing) as a way to give businesses a way to have a small form factor box for different computing needs. These aim to offer a high-performance CPU/GPU processor with expansive peripheral support, in-depth security features and a planned 10-year processor availability.

Until now, AMD's Ryzen Embedded product line had mostly scored one design win here and there, powering handheld consoles such as the Smach Z and such other low power, relatively high-performance environments. When AMD announced the R1000 SoC back in April, it already announced that partners would be bringing their own takes on the underlying silicon, and today is the announcement of that effort.





AMD Ryzen Embedded Mini PCs make use of an open software approach through Radeon Open Compute (ROCm) and OpenCL. These Ryzen Embedded platforms are also well suited for machine vision, object detection, edge inference, and analytics, opening up a new growth space for AMD in now neatly produced and packaged Mini PCs. Through AMD's V1000 efforts, partners can have SoCs that carry 'Zen' CPUs and 'Vega' GPUs on a single die, offering up to four CPU cores/eight threads and up to 11 GPU compute units to achieve processing throughput as high as 3.6 TFLOPS in a 12-54 W configurable package. The R1000, on the other hand, will come in in 15-25 W solutions.







Steven Chiang, CEO, AlphaInfo: "We're excited to support this new ecosystem of Mini PCs powered by AMD Ryzen Embedded processors. At AlphaInfo our expertise with advanced data integration, mature software engineering and technology industry data analysis and management allows us to create innovative and robust application systems that suit every customer's unique needs, whether it's in an embedded application or a Mini PC providing compute power at the edge."

Mike Daulerio, Vice President of Business Development, Beechwoods Software: "Beechwoods is thrilled to be one of the partner companies supporting AMD's open ecosystem. Our IoT Edge Gateway software leverages the advanced compute capabilities of the Ryzen Embedded Processor family to enable smarter, more secure solutions with headroom for future proofing."

Eric Simone, CEO, ClearBlade: "Frameworks, standards and open source ecosystems are essential to the sustainable success of connected systems that scale. We're honored to support the ecosystem of Mini PCs powered by AMD Ryzen Embedded processors, essential to design, engineer and support secure, real-time, scalable IoT solutions."

AMD Ryzen Embedded Processor Overview

The AMD Ryzen Embedded processors bring together AMD "Zen" CPU and "Vega" GPU architectures in a seamlessly integrated SoC solution for high-performance compute to support the modern computing needs of industrial, media, and enterprise applications.

The AMD Ryzen Embedded V1000 and R1000 processors provide scalable solutions from 6 watts to 54 watts in a pin compatible package that powers high resolution, 4K multi-display configurability, high-performance 3D graphics all while enabling extended availability that alleviates replacement cycles and minimizes customer costs.

View at TechPowerUp Main Site
 
Joined
Oct 25, 2019
Messages
203 (0.11/day)
Good job AMD

One the best applications of their APU model. Vega and Zen are a good marriage. But would still love Vega/Navi with Ice-lake more. Make it happen!
 
Joined
Dec 16, 2017
Messages
2,939 (1.15/day)
System Name System V
Processor AMD Ryzen 5 3600
Motherboard Asus Prime X570-P
Cooling Cooler Master Hyper 212 // a bunch of 120 mm Xigmatek 1500 RPM fans (2 ins, 3 outs)
Memory 2x8GB Ballistix Sport LT 3200 MHz (BLS8G4D32AESCK.M8FE) (CL16-18-18-36)
Video Card(s) Gigabyte AORUS Radeon RX 580 8 GB
Storage SHFS37A240G / DT01ACA200 / ST10000VN0008 / ST8000VN004 / SA400S37960G / SNV21000G / NM620 2TB
Display(s) LG 22MP55 IPS Display
Case NZXT Source 210
Audio Device(s) Logitech G430 Headset
Power Supply Corsair CX650M
Software Whatever build of Windows 11 is being served in Canary channel at the time.
Benchmark Scores Corona 1.3: 3120620 r/s Cinebench R20: 3355 FireStrike: 12490 TimeSpy: 4624
AMD is on a roll lately. Nice.
Good job AMD

One the best applications of their APU model. Vega and Zen are a good marriage. But would still love Vega/Navi with Ice-lake more. Make it happen!

Unlikely. Intel are working on their own discrete GPU and they already have IGPs. That NUC chimera will probably never happen again.
 
Joined
Mar 16, 2017
Messages
2,159 (0.76/day)
Location
Tanagra
System Name Budget Box
Processor Xeon E5-2667v2
Motherboard ASUS P9X79 Pro
Cooling Some cheap tower cooler, I dunno
Memory 32GB 1866-DDR3 ECC
Video Card(s) XFX RX 5600XT
Storage WD NVME 1GB
Display(s) ASUS Pro Art 27"
Case Antec P7 Neo
AMD is on a roll lately. Nice.


Unlikely. Intel are working on their own discrete GPU and they already have IGPs. That NUC chimera will probably never happen again.
I still don’t understand that marriage. It happened once and there were no sequels or even any proper OEM applications that I can recall. I expected it to show up in a refreshed Mac-mini, but even that didn’t happen.
 
Joined
Dec 16, 2017
Messages
2,939 (1.15/day)
System Name System V
Processor AMD Ryzen 5 3600
Motherboard Asus Prime X570-P
Cooling Cooler Master Hyper 212 // a bunch of 120 mm Xigmatek 1500 RPM fans (2 ins, 3 outs)
Memory 2x8GB Ballistix Sport LT 3200 MHz (BLS8G4D32AESCK.M8FE) (CL16-18-18-36)
Video Card(s) Gigabyte AORUS Radeon RX 580 8 GB
Storage SHFS37A240G / DT01ACA200 / ST10000VN0008 / ST8000VN004 / SA400S37960G / SNV21000G / NM620 2TB
Display(s) LG 22MP55 IPS Display
Case NZXT Source 210
Audio Device(s) Logitech G430 Headset
Power Supply Corsair CX650M
Software Whatever build of Windows 11 is being served in Canary channel at the time.
Benchmark Scores Corona 1.3: 3120620 r/s Cinebench R20: 3355 FireStrike: 12490 TimeSpy: 4624
I still don’t understand that marriage. It happened once and there were no sequels or even any proper OEM applications that I can recall. I expected it to show up in a refreshed Mac-mini, but even that didn’t happen.

Neither do I. If I had to throw a wild guess, I think Intel wanted some practice using EMIB and also to scout some Radeon talent for their own graphics IP.

Again, that's a wild guess, and I wouldn't back that up with even 5 cents.

EDIT: And I don't know what AMD could have gained from this, besides selling a few extra Radeon chips. An ego boost, maybe, from seeing their CPU rival give in to the idea of using a AMD IGP on Team Blue's CPUs? More wild guesses.
 
Joined
Apr 26, 2008
Messages
232 (0.04/day)
System Name 3950X Workstation
Processor AMD Ryzen 9 3950X
Motherboard ASUS Crosshair VIII Impact
Cooling Cryorig C1 with Noctua NF-A12x15
Memory G.Skill F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC
Video Card(s) ASUS GTX 1650 LP OC
Storage 2 x Corsair MP510 1920GB M.2 SSD
Case Realan E-i7
Power Supply G-Unique 400W
Software Win 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores https://smallformfactor.net/forum/threads/the-saga-of-the-little-gem-continues.12877/
Whoever brought this initiative and pushed it deserves a round of applause. AMD needs to turn in some profits out of this Zen wave, and this can be key to break the mold for many organizations and can establish AMD as a viable computing solution. Next step comes the datacenter...


Neither do I. If I had to throw a wild guess, I think Intel wanted some practice using EMIB and also to scout some Radeon talent for their own graphics IP.

Again, that's a wild guess, and I wouldn't back that up with even 5 cents.

EDIT: And I don't know what AMD could have gained from this, besides selling a few extra Radeon chips. An ego boost, maybe, from seeing their CPU rival give in to the idea of using a AMD IGP on Team Blue's CPUs? More wild guesses.

I agree. It was most likely INTELs brainchild with not so innocent motives. They probably paid AMD well, otherwise it doesn't make sense for AMD. In retrospect, things are clearer...
 
Joined
Aug 10, 2008
Messages
294 (0.05/day)
Location
Saigon city
System Name Kurise PC
Processor i7 5820k 4,7ghz / Ryzen 1700x 4ghz / 8700k
Motherboard Asus X99 deluxe / MSI x370 gaming pro carbon / z370i strix
Cooling EK evo, xspc slim 360 rad, D5 pump, dual alpha cool GPU mono block, dual xspc 240 radiator, DDC 18w
Memory Crucial sport white 16gb x 8 128gb 2666mhz/ Crucial sport white 16gb x 4 64gb 2933 / ddr4 chinese 32
Video Card(s) GTX 1080Ti SLI / HP gtx 1080 SLI 1850/1520 / 2080ti ref
Storage Lite on 512GB x 3 / Plextor m2 256gb / samsung 970 evo
Display(s) AOC I2769Vm, AOC U3477PQU, AOC I2769Vm / Koios 40''/ eizo EV2730QFX 1:1
Case Xigmatek Elysium / Corsair 750D / Bitfenix prodigy M
Audio Device(s) creative blaster ZX / Blaster ZXR / Blaster x7 lmt + burson v5i upgraded
Power Supply Be Quiet 1200 / Thermaltake toughpower 1200w / chinese 750w sfx PSU
Mouse Asus Echelon/ steelseries black ops II/ james donkey
Keyboard Cm storm quickfire pro / Fire rose steampunk kb/ corsair k70
Software Windows 10
Joined
Feb 25, 2016
Messages
292 (0.09/day)
Neither do I. If I had to throw a wild guess, I think Intel wanted some practice using EMIB and also to scout some Radeon talent for their own graphics IP.

Again, that's a wild guess, and I wouldn't back that up with even 5 cents.

EDIT: And I don't know what AMD could have gained from this, besides selling a few extra Radeon chips. An ego boost, maybe, from seeing their CPU rival give in to the idea of using a AMD IGP on Team Blue's CPUs? More wild guesses.
Intel provided much needed money to AMD and in turn scored some AMD gpu guys. Win - win situation for both of them, my guess. And engineering loss for AMD wasn't huge. Most of the people who left had non-engineering jobs.
 
Joined
Jun 3, 2010
Messages
2,540 (0.48/day)
I agree. It was most likely INTELs brainchild with not so innocent motives. They probably paid AMD well, otherwise it doesn't make sense for AMD. In retrospect, things are clearer...
AMD was inherently advantageous since Intel doesn't have a heterogeneous compute architecture. They were already up 1 chip in count.
This isn't what excites me however. Cartridge cpus are the fever, imo. Let's hope we can run with expectations some day. Tango PC!
 
Joined
Apr 8, 2008
Messages
342 (0.06/day)
System Name Xajel Main
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5800X
Motherboard ASRock X570M Steel Legened
Cooling Corsair H100i PRO
Memory G.Skill DDR4 3600 32GB (2x16GB)
Video Card(s) ZOTAC GAMING GeForce RTX 3080 Ti AMP Holo
Storage (OS) Gigabyte AORUS NVMe Gen4 1TB + (Personal) WD Black SN850X 2TB + (Store) WD 8TB HDD
Display(s) LG 38WN95C Ultrawide 3840x1600 144Hz
Case Cooler Master CM690 III
Audio Device(s) Built-in Audio + Yamaha SR-C20 Soundbar
Power Supply Thermaltake 750W
Mouse Logitech MK710 Combo
Keyboard Logitech MK710 Combo (M705)
Software Windows 11 Pro
Seeing this mini PC's are very good from AMD, and building the base for their partners made it even more appealing, I personally hoped this since Zen launched. But I have some caveats here.

  • AMD is only making it now for mission critical and specialised situation, they're using their first gen. "Zen" on the very establishment and mature 14nm process.
  • All of these uses a CPU, not APU, the partner/manufacturer must include a dGPU.
  • There's no consumer grade version yet, they don't have the latest APU's. I really hope AMD is waiting for their "Renoir" APU's with Zen2 to make it good enough. But I also would like to have any remaining PCIe lanes to be offered as M.2 slots.


I still don’t understand that marriage. It happened once and there were no sequels or even any proper OEM applications that I can recall. I expected it to show up in a refreshed Mac-mini, but even that didn’t happen.

Intel killed it by them selfs, since they launched it actually, then just about 2-3 months ago they killed it officially.

How they killed it? basically, they launched it with an older 7th gen architecture with 4C CPU, while in the same time they launched their newer 8th gen 6C CPU's, it's price was higher than CPU +GPU+GDDR5 combination, so the only benefit it brings was you get almost the same performance of an old 4C architecture + dGPU in a smaller real estate to create smaller & thinner laptops. It was a small market to start with, and the use of older 7th gen arch. made it worst, and being a more expensive option and also harder to find one made it also hard.
 
Last edited:

INSTG8R

Vanguard Beta Tester
Joined
Nov 26, 2004
Messages
8,081 (1.10/day)
Location
Canuck in Norway
System Name Hellbox 5.1(same case new guts)
Processor Ryzen 7 5800X3D
Motherboard MSI X570S MAG Torpedo Max
Cooling TT Kandalf L.C.S.(Water/Air)EK Velocity CPU Block/Noctua EK Quantum DDC Pump/Res
Memory 2x16GB Gskill Trident Neo Z 3600 CL16
Video Card(s) Powercolor Hellhound 7900XTX
Storage 970 Evo Plus 500GB 2xSamsung 850 Evo 500GB RAID 0 1TB WD Blue Corsair MP600 Core 2TB
Display(s) Alienware QD-OLED 34” 3440x1440 144hz 10Bit VESA HDR 400
Case TT Kandalf L.C.S.
Audio Device(s) Soundblaster ZX/Logitech Z906 5.1
Power Supply Seasonic TX~’850 Platinum
Mouse G502 Hero
Keyboard G19s
VR HMD Oculus Quest 3
Software Win 11 Pro x64
Intel killed it by them selfs, since they launched it actually, then just about 2-3 months ago they killed it officially.

How they killed it? basically, they launched it with an older 7th gen architecture with 4C CPU, while in the same time they launched their newer 8th gen 6C CPU's, it's price was higher than CPU +GPU+GDDR5 combination, so the only benefit it brings was you get almost the same performance of an old 4C architecture + dGPU in a smaller real estate to create smaller & thinner laptops. It was a small market to start with, and the use of older 7th gen arch. made it worst, and being a more expensive option and also harder to find one made it also hard.
Not too mention they were absolutely terrible with supporting it driver wise even tho AMD was perfectly willin to support it
 
Joined
Mar 23, 2005
Messages
4,092 (0.57/day)
Location
Ancient Greece, Acropolis (Time Lord)
System Name RiseZEN Gaming PC
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5800X @ Auto
Motherboard Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming ATX Motherboard
Cooling Corsair H115i Elite Capellix AIO, 280mm Radiator, Dual RGB 140mm ML Series PWM Fans
Memory G.Skill TridentZ 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4 3200
Video Card(s) ASUS DUAL RX 6700 XT DUAL-RX6700XT-12G
Storage Corsair Force MP500 480GB M.2 & MP510 480GB M.2 - 2 x WD_BLACK 1TB SN850X NVMe 1TB
Display(s) ASUS ROG Strix 34” XG349C 144Hz 1440p + Asus ROG 27" MG278Q 144Hz WQHD 1440p
Case Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Gaming Case
Audio Device(s) SteelSeries 5Hv2 w/ Sound Blaster Z SE
Power Supply Corsair RM750x Power Supply
Mouse Razer Death-Adder + Viper 8K HZ Ambidextrous Gaming Mouse - Ergonomic Left Hand Edition
Keyboard Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum RGB Gaming Keyboard
Software Windows 11 Pro - 64-Bit Edition
Benchmark Scores I'm the Doctor, Doctor Who. The Definition of Gaming is PC Gaming...
AMD is on a roll lately. Nice.


Unlikely. Intel are working on their own discrete GPU and they already have IGPs. That NUC chimera will probably never happen again.
Intel's discrete GPUs aren't going as well as originally thought.
But you never know.
 
Top