Amidst Intel CPU Shortage Woes, Dell Reportedly Looking Into AMD Alternatives

[notb]

Low volume yet they used AMD, what does that tell you? They used AMD where they didn't have to. Times are changing bud, and the 10nm fiasco will last for years.

They offer both Intel and AMD variants of these. What's wrong with that?
It's easy to offer 2 different platforms in a large desktop. This is not the segment Dell has supply issues. Desktop CPUs are abundant for the sales potential this gaming line has.

And Dell has been using AMD CPUs often, so I don't understand what this changes.
In fact, Aurora lineup replaces Area 51, which was the flagship PC for previous gen Threadripper.

They also have Ryzen-based Optiplex 5055.

This is currently only available with A10 APU and it's been like that for a long time.
I don't know why. Maybe AMD can't supply enough CPUs as well?

 

[btarunr]

Can they guarantee the same QC with AMD platform/chips? Memory, voltage and stability issues still abound with Ryzen 3000

They already sell desktops with AMD processors, so yes.

 

[Tsukiyomi91]

This comes to no surprise to most of us. Bet those Intel executives are scrambling a response to this.

 

[Durvelle27]

this isn’t really news for me. We all saw this coming

Hell at my job we issued a call back for intel units and now all we deploy daily is AMD laptops and desktops for the entire AT&T Workforce world wide. By 2020 all AT&T company PCs will be AMD Ryzen Pro powered.

 

[medi01]

What a freaking shameful reason to start selling AMD chips, given AMD's fantastic lineup.
I have 2005 deja vu...

Memory, voltage and stability issues still abound

You forgot about unstable drivers.

 

[INSTG8R]

What a freaking shameful reason to start selling AMD chips, given AMD's fantastic lineup.
I have 2005 deja vu...

Well Dell has pretty much frozen out AMD for a decade it's about time they ended they're pseudo monopoly, granted they didn't have much of a choice but it could mean future Dell products will have more choice.

 

[Deleted member 158293]

hush money wont work if you cant supply the goods

trog

Well... if you must get into details...

I'd be curious to see how honest Intel has been with their clients and much inventory OEMs like Dell (and especially smaller ones) have just sitting in warehouses waiting for CPUs to arrive on top of their client complaints and losing revenue from potential new clients who can't buy anything...

 

[candle_86]

Good, I suggested to my boss that if dell starts selling ryzen 7 3xxx chip desktops we should buy as they would be more potent than the i7 9700 Opti 5070s we already buy. The desktops are used for AI, program development, inventory tracking, and order processing needs.

 

[Cataclysmm]

If all you want to do is play solitaire and look at FB, a Dell is all you need.

 

[INSTG8R]

If all you want to do is play solitaire and look at FB, a Dell is all you need.

You‘re not wrong but that Dell has had an Intel in it for at least a decade be it a good one or not.

 

[candle_86]

If all you want to do is play solitaire and look at FB, a Dell is all you need.

Or if warranty and support matter and reliability is a factor, there is a reason the Enterprise market doesn't do custom PC's.

 

[Vayra86]

Dellicious, I say.

 

[Minus Infinity]

Realistically can AMD supply the volume of chips Dell would require? They need iron clad guarantees about supply, would this lead to general consumer shortages if they have prioritise Dell. I have no idea how many chips TSMC can produce per month for AMD.

 

[efikkan]

I think Dell should be sourcing CPUs from both, that could only be good for the competition.

But it seems like everyone is ignoring the elephant in the room; as both CPU makers failing to meet the current demand, how is more AMD based Dell PCs going to improve that situation in the short-term?
If AMD wants larger OEM deals, they need to be able to ship much higher volumes.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Intel is praying it doesn't have more than 4 cores, because then AMD will beat the Core i5 both in CPU and iGPU performance.

This. And Intel has reason to be worried. 6 and 8 core mobile chips are incoming from AMD.

I think Dell should be sourcing CPUs from both, that could only be good for the competition.

Agreed. This level of competition is bringing the PC market to a new level of prosperity.

 

[Redwoodz]

Oh yeah, but remember guys...... The Desktop is dead! 5 yrs ago all the experts were claiming the death of AMD and the whole desktop market was coming to an end. Now neither one can make enough chips. !

 

[AnarchoPrimitiv]

Can they guarantee the same QC with AMD platform/chips? Memory, voltage and stability issues still abound with Ryzen 3000

See I don't understand that, I literally just built a 2700x system a week ago and used TWO DIFFERENT G.Skill Trident Z RGB 8GBx2 kits (32GB total) in an Asus X470-F and on literally the first boot it was running at 3200Mhz 14-14-14-34 with zero issues.

My 2700X also hit 4.398Ghz (effectively 4.4Ghz) on all cores at only 1.318 Volts, so I'm thinking I won the silicon lottery with that one.

I get that this is only my experience, but my experience cannot just be some freak outlier

 

[efikkan]

Can they guarantee the same QC with AMD platform/chips? Memory, voltage and stability issues still abound with Ryzen 3000

See I don't understand that, I literally just built a 2700x system a week ago and used TWO DIFFERENT G.Skill Trident Z RGB 8GBx2 kits (32GB total) in an Asus X470-F and on literally the first boot it was running at 3200Mhz 14-14-14-34 with zero issues.

OEMs like Dell will configure memory to run at JEDEC speeds, which will work fine on either AMD or Intel.
If you're intending to overclock memory, you're not going to buy like a Dell OptiPlex…

And as for BIOS quality, that's mostly up to Dell.

 

[robot zombie]

See I don't understand that, I literally just built a 2700x system a week ago and used TWO DIFFERENT G.Skill Trident Z RGB 8GBx2 kits (32GB total) in an Asus X470-F and on literally the first boot it was running at 3200Mhz 14-14-14-34 with zero issues.

My 2700X also hit 4.398Ghz (effectively 4.4Ghz) on all cores at only 1.318 Volts, so I'm thinking I won the silicon lottery with that one.

I get that this is only my experience, but my experience cannot just be some freak outlier

That's me as well. I did a lot of commisions at the height of Zen+. All x models. Many different configurations. And in spite of the initial problems with Zen+ they all performed consistently with no stability issues. If that hadn't been the case I wouldn't have been selling machines with Ryzen CPUs in them to anyone. But most of them got off of the hook for less than they expected for a machine that works for them. A couple of those have been out in the wild for around a year and the only peep I've heard from those clients have been "Thank you." and/or "I know someone who wants a new custom PC."

So I dunno... IME they're an easy sell and people seem to be happy with them *shrug* No reason not to have them in pre-built machines IMO. Was glad to have them as an affordable option to offer. The same rules as with Intel... pick the right parts and things generally go pretty predictably smooth.

 

[mtcn77]

Realistically can AMD supply the volume of chips Dell would require? They need iron clad guarantees about supply, would this lead to general consumer shortages if they have prioritise Dell. I have no idea how many chips TSMC can produce per month for AMD.

"When the supply of oil was becoming increasingly uncertain," "then their biggest customers, such as power companies, who drank oil by the trainful and would make no allowances for human frailty began to convert to coal."