• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

MetallicGear Announces NEO Qube Dual-chamber Chassis

btarunr

Editor & Senior Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Oct 9, 2007
Messages
47,233 (7.55/day)
Location
Hyderabad, India
System Name RBMK-1000
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
Motherboard ASUS ROG Strix B450-E Gaming
Cooling DeepCool Gammax L240 V2
Memory 2x 8GB G.Skill Sniper X
Video Card(s) Palit GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER GameRock
Storage Western Digital Black NVMe 512GB
Display(s) BenQ 1440p 60 Hz 27-inch
Case Corsair Carbide 100R
Audio Device(s) ASUS SupremeFX S1220A
Power Supply Cooler Master MWE Gold 650W
Mouse ASUS ROG Strix Impact
Keyboard Gamdias Hermes E2
Software Windows 11 Pro
MetallicGear, powered by Phanteks, today announced the new addition to the NEO series, the NEO Qube. The NEO Qube sports dual tempered glass panels with integrated smooth Digital-RGB lighting making this the perfect showcase to display your system from every angle.

The NEO Qube features a spacious dual-chamber interior that brings a smooth building experience, heat separation for better cooling and supports powerful hardware. Combined with the Phanteks Revolt X power supply, the NEO Qube can even support 2 motherboard installations (E-ATX + ITX), which brings more possibilities for streamers, professionals, and multi-users looking for dual system support.



The NEO Qube is optimized with high-airflow mesh to bring cooling to the next level. It features extensive water/air cooling support with up to triple 360 mm radiators locations. The NEO Qube dual-chamber chassis provides everything you need to showcase your high-end system without the price tag.

Pricing and Availability
Price: USD $99.99 (both variants)
Available immediately.

View at TechPowerUp Main Site
 
Joined
Aug 14, 2009
Messages
216 (0.04/day)
Location
Denmark
System Name Bongfjaes
Processor AMD 3700x
Motherboard Assus Crosshair VII Hero
Cooling Dark Rock Pro 4
Memory 2x8GB G.Skill FlareX 3200MT/s CL14
Video Card(s) GTX 970
Storage Adata SX8200 Pro 1TB + Lots of spinning rust
Display(s) Viewsonic VX2268wm
Case Fractal Design R6
Audio Device(s) Creative SoundBlaster AE-5
Power Supply Seasonic TTR-1000
Mouse Pro Intellimouse
Keyboard SteelKeys 6G
Looks pretty decent, wish it had closed off sides and front personally though.
 
Joined
Jun 27, 2017
Messages
274 (0.10/day)
Processor Intel i5-13600k
Motherboard MSI MEG Z690i Unify
Cooling Noctua NH-C14S
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V F5-5600J2834F32GX2-RS5W 64GB
Video Card(s) Asus RX6800XT TUF
Storage Samsung 980 Pro 500GB x2
Display(s) Samsung U32H850
Case Streacom DA6 XL chrome
Audio Device(s) Denon PMA-50
Power Supply Corsair SF750
Mouse Logitech MX Master 3
Keyboard Microsoft Surface
Software Win 11 Pro
@Th3pwn3r Dual system is it's new and novel idea, but looks are a ripoff. Though I think that there aren't that many ways to do case with this layout
 
Joined
Jan 20, 2019
Messages
1,556 (0.73/day)
Location
London, UK
System Name ❶ Oooh (2024) ❷ Aaaah (2021) ❸ Ahemm (2017)
Processor ❶ 5800X3D ❷ i7-9700K ❸ i7-7700K
Motherboard ❶ X570-F ❷ Z390-E ❸ Z270-E
Cooling ❶ ALFIII 360 ❷ X62 + X72 (GPU mod) ❸ X62
Memory ❶ 32-3600/16 ❷ 32-3200/16 ❸ 16-3200/16
Video Card(s) ❶ 3080 X Trio ❷ 2080TI (AIOmod) ❸ 1080TI
Storage ❶ NVME/SSD/HDD ❷ <SAME ❸ SSD/HDD
Display(s) ❶ 1440/165/IPS ❷ 1440/144/IPS ❸ 1080/144/IPS
Case ❶ BQ Silent 601 ❷ Cors 465X ❸ Frac Mesh C
Audio Device(s) ❶ HyperX C2 ❷ HyperX C2 ❸ Logi G432
Power Supply ❶ HX1200 Plat ❷ RM750X ❸ EVGA 650W G2
Mouse ❶ Logi G Pro ❷ Razer Bas V3 ❸ Logi G502
Keyboard ❶ Logi G915 TKL ❷ Anne P2 ❸ Logi G610
Software ❶ Win 11 ❷ 10 ❸ 10
Benchmark Scores I have wrestled bandwidths, Tussled with voltages, Handcuffed Overclocks, Thrown Gigahertz in Jail
I've been waiting for a long time for a budget version of the Li Lian 011. I'm not as excited with this type of design anymore but it's nice to see Metallic Gear is filling the gap.

Same applies to 7L+ SFX cases (eg. Dan). I'd be interested in seeing someone launch a £70-£80 budget option (regardless of build quality, as long as its built to last).
 
Joined
Feb 13, 2014
Messages
496 (0.13/day)
Location
Cyprus
Processor 13700KF - 5.7GHZ
Motherboard Z690 UNIFY-X
Cooling ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 360 (NF-A12x25)
Memory 2x16 G.SKILL M-DIE (7200-34-44-44-28)
Video Card(s) XFX MERC 7900XT
Storage 1TB KINGSTON KC3000
Display(s) FI32Q
Case LIAN LI O11 DYNAMIC EVO
Audio Device(s) HD599
Power Supply RMX1000
Mouse PULSAR V2H
Keyboard KEYCHRON V3 (DUROCK T1 + MT3 GODSPEED R2)
Software Windows 11
Benchmark Scores Superposition 4k optimized - 20652
@Th3pwn3r Dual system is it's new and novel idea, but looks are a ripoff. Though I think that there aren't that many ways to do case with this layout
There were plenty of dual chamber chassis in the past and done differently tbh. Some split in horizontally others vertically, others only move the psu to the other size etc.
 
Joined
Feb 11, 2009
Messages
5,550 (0.96/day)
System Name Cyberline
Processor Intel Core i7 2600k -> 12600k
Motherboard Asus P8P67 LE Rev 3.0 -> Gigabyte Z690 Auros Elite DDR4
Cooling Tuniq Tower 120 -> Custom Watercoolingloop
Memory Corsair (4x2) 8gb 1600mhz -> Crucial (8x2) 16gb 3600mhz
Video Card(s) AMD RX480 -> RX7800XT
Storage Samsung 750 Evo 250gb SSD + WD 1tb x 2 + WD 2tb -> 2tb MVMe SSD
Display(s) Philips 32inch LPF5605H (television) -> Dell S3220DGF
Case antec 600 -> Thermaltake Tenor HTCP case
Audio Device(s) Focusrite 2i4 (USB)
Power Supply Seasonic 620watt 80+ Platinum
Mouse Elecom EX-G
Keyboard Rapoo V700
Software Windows 10 Pro 64bit
ctrl C ctrl V
 

eidairaman1

The Exiled Airman
Joined
Jul 2, 2007
Messages
42,145 (6.63/day)
Location
Republic of Texas (True Patriot)
System Name PCGOD
Processor AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz
Motherboard Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios
Cooling Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED
Memory 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V)
Video Card(s) AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X
Storage Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB
Display(s) NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter)
Case AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition
Audio Device(s) Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR
Power Supply Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3)
Mouse Roccat Kone XTD
Keyboard Roccat Ryos MK Pro
Software Windows 7 Pro 64
Needs breathing holes...
 
Joined
Oct 18, 2013
Messages
6,186 (1.53/day)
Location
Over here, right where you least expect me to be !
System Name The Little One
Processor i5-11320H @4.4GHZ
Motherboard AZW SEI
Cooling Fan w/heat pipes + side & rear vents
Memory 64GB Crucial DDR4-3200 (2x 32GB)
Video Card(s) Iris XE
Storage WD Black SN850X 4TB m.2, Seagate 2TB SSD + SN850 4TB x2 in an external enclosure
Display(s) 2x Samsung 43" & 2x 32"
Case Practically identical to a mac mini, just purrtier in slate blue, & with 3x usb ports on the front !
Audio Device(s) Yamaha ATS-1060 Bluetooth Soundbar & Subwoofer
Power Supply 65w brick
Mouse Logitech MX Master 2
Keyboard Logitech G613 mechanical wireless
Software Windows 10 pro 64 bit, with all the unnecessary background shitzu turned OFF !
Benchmark Scores PDQ
IMHO, this is an Air540 ripper, with the 2 mobo support added in so they don't get sued by Corsair or other company that has already been there, done that, years ago...:shadedshu:...:fear:...:twitch:

Nice price though, so there's that....
 
Joined
Nov 21, 2010
Messages
2,351 (0.46/day)
Location
Right where I want to be
System Name Miami
Processor Ryzen 3800X
Motherboard Asus Crosshair VII Formula
Cooling Ek Velocity/ 2x 280mm Radiators/ Alphacool fullcover
Memory F4-3600C16Q-32GTZNC
Video Card(s) XFX 6900 XT Speedster 0
Storage 1TB WD M.2 SSD/ 2TB WD SN750/ 4TB WD Black HDD
Display(s) DELL AW3420DW / HP ZR24w
Case Lian Li O11 Dynamic XL
Audio Device(s) EVGA Nu Audio
Power Supply Seasonic Prime Gold 1000W+750W
Mouse Corsair Scimitar/Glorious Model O-
Keyboard Corsair K95 Platinum
Software Windows 10 Pro
@Th3pwn3r Dual system is it's new and novel idea, but looks are a ripoff. Though I think that there aren't that many ways to do case with this layout

O11 supports dual systems also just not out of the box and you have to buy another $100 in brackets and accessories. This thing isn't a simply a RIP-off anymore and is almost a clone at this point.
 
Joined
Feb 18, 2013
Messages
2,182 (0.51/day)
Location
Deez Nutz, bozo!
System Name Rainbow Puke Machine :D
Processor Intel Core i5-11400 (MCE enabled, PL removed)
Motherboard ASUS STRIX B560-G GAMING WIFI mATX
Cooling Corsair H60i RGB PRO XT AIO + HD120 RGB (x3) + SP120 RGB PRO (x3) + Commander PRO
Memory Corsair Vengeance RGB RT 2 x 8GB 3200MHz DDR4 C16
Video Card(s) Zotac RTX2060 Twin Fan 6GB GDDR6 (Stock)
Storage Corsair MP600 PRO 1TB M.2 PCIe Gen4 x4 SSD
Display(s) LG 29WK600-W Ultrawide 1080p IPS Monitor (primary display)
Case Corsair iCUE 220T RGB Airflow (White) w/Lighting Node CORE + Lighting Node PRO RGB LED Strips (x4).
Audio Device(s) ASUS ROG Supreme FX S1220A w/ Savitech SV3H712 AMP + Sonic Studio 3 suite
Power Supply Corsair RM750x 80 Plus Gold Fully Modular
Mouse Corsair M65 RGB FPS Gaming (White)
Keyboard Corsair K60 PRO RGB Mechanical w/ Cherry VIOLA Switches
Software Windows 11 Professional x64 (Update 23H2)
a Dynamic 011 replica IMO. For it to hold 2 complete systems for $100 is quite a steal. BTW, Tecware also have something similar to this called the VXR for less than $90 I think.
 
Joined
Feb 22, 2009
Messages
409 (0.07/day)
Location
Grand Prairie Texas
System Name Little Girl
Processor Intel Q9650 @ 3.6GHz
Motherboard Gigabyte x48 DQ6
Cooling liquid cooling
Memory 4gb (2x2) OCZ DDR2 PC2-9200
Video Card(s) Gigabyte HD6950 unlock to Asus 6970 specs
Storage Crucial CT128M225 128gb SSD
Display(s) Acer 27" LCD @ 2048x1152
Case DIY (spit & glue, ducktape, cardboard)
Audio Device(s) On-board HD Audio
Power Supply ABS Tagan 850w
Software Win7 64bit
The only cool thing going on for this is the dual chamber. I luv my Dynamic. If I run dual system to stream video, this is an awesome case for it.
 
Joined
May 2, 2017
Messages
7,762 (2.81/day)
Location
Back in Norway
System Name Hotbox
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5800X, 110/95/110, PBO +150Mhz, CO -7,-7,-20(x6),
Motherboard ASRock Phantom Gaming B550 ITX/ax
Cooling LOBO + Laing DDC 1T Plus PWM + Corsair XR5 280mm + 2x Arctic P14
Memory 32GB G.Skill FlareX 3200c14 @3800c15
Video Card(s) PowerColor Radeon 6900XT Liquid Devil Ultimate, UC@2250MHz max @~200W
Storage 2TB Adata SX8200 Pro
Display(s) Dell U2711 main, AOC 24P2C secondary
Case SSUPD Meshlicious
Audio Device(s) Optoma Nuforce μDAC 3
Power Supply Corsair SF750 Platinum
Mouse Logitech G603
Keyboard Keychron K3/Cooler Master MasterKeys Pro M w/DSA profile caps
Software Windows 10 Pro
Same applies to 7L+ SFX cases (eg. Dan). I'd be interested in seeing someone launch a £70-£80 budget option (regardless of build quality, as long as its built to last).
"Regardless of build quality, as long as it's built to last" is a rather contradictory statement.

Also, sandwich-layout cases aren't becoming that cheap any time soon simply due to the requirement for a quality PCIe riser cable, which is easily a $30 cost to the manufacturer - which will obviously become higher than that when passed on to the end user. There's also the issue of lack of economics of scale in the SFF space - due to compatibility issues and the sheer number of different layouts possible it's really hard to reach sufficient sales volumes to make cases cheaper - though hopefully we'll see developments of cases like the InWin A1 or Corsair QBX moving to SFX PSUs in the near future for some more space savings. Still, tooling even for a small mass-produced case can cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to manufacture. Still, if you're into that sort of thing there are dozens of more affordable options (both copies of more established designs and a lot of original designs) in the 4-15l range on TaoBao - you just have to go through an agent like Superbuy and live with the delays and lead times of small-scale manufacturing. There's a giant thread full of this over on the smallformfactor.net forums :)
 
Joined
Oct 18, 2013
Messages
6,186 (1.53/day)
Location
Over here, right where you least expect me to be !
System Name The Little One
Processor i5-11320H @4.4GHZ
Motherboard AZW SEI
Cooling Fan w/heat pipes + side & rear vents
Memory 64GB Crucial DDR4-3200 (2x 32GB)
Video Card(s) Iris XE
Storage WD Black SN850X 4TB m.2, Seagate 2TB SSD + SN850 4TB x2 in an external enclosure
Display(s) 2x Samsung 43" & 2x 32"
Case Practically identical to a mac mini, just purrtier in slate blue, & with 3x usb ports on the front !
Audio Device(s) Yamaha ATS-1060 Bluetooth Soundbar & Subwoofer
Power Supply 65w brick
Mouse Logitech MX Master 2
Keyboard Logitech G613 mechanical wireless
Software Windows 10 pro 64 bit, with all the unnecessary background shitzu turned OFF !
Benchmark Scores PDQ
simply due to the requirement for a quality PCIe riser cable, which is easily a $30 cost to the manufacturer

Maybe in lahlah land, but not in reality....

Last time I checked (a few months ago) the mfgr's COSTS for a high-quality, standard length riser cable was approx. $8.00 US, which, even with a substantial mark-up (typically 30-50%), would only make it about $12 at the retail level, which this is not.....

And this is before any quantity discounts for large orders (500-1000 or more pcs), which any case mfgr worth a crap would be doing simply due to the economies of scale and/or pre-negotiated purchasing contracts....

And before anyone asks, I am privy to this type of info due to my involvement in electrical/electronics design, estimating, engineering, manufacturing, and sales :)
 
Joined
May 2, 2017
Messages
7,762 (2.81/day)
Location
Back in Norway
System Name Hotbox
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5800X, 110/95/110, PBO +150Mhz, CO -7,-7,-20(x6),
Motherboard ASRock Phantom Gaming B550 ITX/ax
Cooling LOBO + Laing DDC 1T Plus PWM + Corsair XR5 280mm + 2x Arctic P14
Memory 32GB G.Skill FlareX 3200c14 @3800c15
Video Card(s) PowerColor Radeon 6900XT Liquid Devil Ultimate, UC@2250MHz max @~200W
Storage 2TB Adata SX8200 Pro
Display(s) Dell U2711 main, AOC 24P2C secondary
Case SSUPD Meshlicious
Audio Device(s) Optoma Nuforce μDAC 3
Power Supply Corsair SF750 Platinum
Mouse Logitech G603
Keyboard Keychron K3/Cooler Master MasterKeys Pro M w/DSA profile caps
Software Windows 10 Pro
Maybe in lahlah land, but not in reality....

Last time I checked (a few months ago) the mfgr's COSTS for a high-quality, standard length riser cable was approx. $8.00 US, which, even with a substantial mark-up (typically 30-50%), would only make it about $12 at the retail level, which this is not.....

And this is before any quantity discounts for large orders (500-1000 or more pcs), which any case mfgr worth a crap would be doing simply due to the economies of scale and/or pre-negotiated purchasing contracts....

And before anyone asks, I am privy to this type of info due to my involvement in electrical/electronics design, estimating, engineering, manufacturing, and sales :)
If that was actually the case, why are there no cheap risers of decent quality available off AliExpress, TaoBao, eBay or similar places? If it was that easy - order 500 of them at $8 or below a pop - you could make a killing just by selling them at $12-15 like you say on one of those places, with near zero overhead costs as most sellers on these sites are tiny stores and have bare-bones warranties etc. And they would sell - it's half the price of the competition, after all. The only risers actually available in that price range are ribbon cable type cables that don't work for anything bandwidth-intensive (believe me, I've tried). So either there's a conspiracy somewhere, or costs are higher than what you're saying.
 
Joined
Oct 18, 2013
Messages
6,186 (1.53/day)
Location
Over here, right where you least expect me to be !
System Name The Little One
Processor i5-11320H @4.4GHZ
Motherboard AZW SEI
Cooling Fan w/heat pipes + side & rear vents
Memory 64GB Crucial DDR4-3200 (2x 32GB)
Video Card(s) Iris XE
Storage WD Black SN850X 4TB m.2, Seagate 2TB SSD + SN850 4TB x2 in an external enclosure
Display(s) 2x Samsung 43" & 2x 32"
Case Practically identical to a mac mini, just purrtier in slate blue, & with 3x usb ports on the front !
Audio Device(s) Yamaha ATS-1060 Bluetooth Soundbar & Subwoofer
Power Supply 65w brick
Mouse Logitech MX Master 2
Keyboard Logitech G613 mechanical wireless
Software Windows 10 pro 64 bit, with all the unnecessary background shitzu turned OFF !
Benchmark Scores PDQ
Because I was speaking strictly of the base costs of materials & component aquisition.... to those you also have to add shipping, storage, testing-QA/QC, and distribution.

And in the case of retail sales (either online or B&M) you also have to add moar shipping/delivery, space allocations, inventory storage, advertising etc.. This is where a $30+ sales price is/would be reasonable.

But we were originally talking about a case mfgr's costs to integrate a cable into their cases, which is good bit different from a retail sales channel for just the cables themselves.....

And FYI, when I go looking for high-quality, no-worry, no-hassle pc parts that will include a full mfgr warranty & reasonable return/RMA policies, those sites you mentioned are NOT in my top 10 list....
 
Joined
May 2, 2017
Messages
7,762 (2.81/day)
Location
Back in Norway
System Name Hotbox
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5800X, 110/95/110, PBO +150Mhz, CO -7,-7,-20(x6),
Motherboard ASRock Phantom Gaming B550 ITX/ax
Cooling LOBO + Laing DDC 1T Plus PWM + Corsair XR5 280mm + 2x Arctic P14
Memory 32GB G.Skill FlareX 3200c14 @3800c15
Video Card(s) PowerColor Radeon 6900XT Liquid Devil Ultimate, UC@2250MHz max @~200W
Storage 2TB Adata SX8200 Pro
Display(s) Dell U2711 main, AOC 24P2C secondary
Case SSUPD Meshlicious
Audio Device(s) Optoma Nuforce μDAC 3
Power Supply Corsair SF750 Platinum
Mouse Logitech G603
Keyboard Keychron K3/Cooler Master MasterKeys Pro M w/DSA profile caps
Software Windows 10 Pro
Because I was speaking strictly of the base costs of materials & component aquisition.... to those you also have to add shipping, storage, testing-QA/QC, and distribution.

And in the case of retail sales (either online or B&M) you also have to add moar shipping/delivery, space allocations, inventory storage, advertising etc.. This is where a $30+ sales price is/would be reasonable.

But we were originally talking about a case mfgr's costs to integrate a cable into their cases, which is good bit different from a retail sales channel for just the cables themselves.....

And FYI, when I go looking for high-quality, no-worry, no-hassle pc parts that will include a full mfgr warranty & reasonable return/RMA policies, those sites you mentioned are NOT in my top 10 list....
They aren't for me either (though there's a lot of good stuff on TaoBao if you know what you're doing, and a lot of good deals to be had on AE if you know what you're doing and are willing to take the risk - I've bought an excellent quality ADT-link riser there, for example), but my point was simply that any product in an attractive category such as PCIe risers that is easily and cheaply available from OEMs in East Asia will inevitably be sold on sites like these by dozens of resellers with very slim margins and subsequently very low prices. Thus the absence of such listings is a strong indication that such parts aren't available at those prices.

As for equating BOM costs to what OEMs pay - that only applies if they make their own cables, but in which case they also have labor and the sunk cost of manufacturing equipment etc. that needs to be factored into the sales price. If not (which would be the case for 99% of case manufacturers - most of them don't even make their own internal USB cables) they would be paying what the cable OEM wants, which includes all of the above + margins to cover other expenses + trying to make a profit. And given the need for high quality shielded cabling and relatively complex/fine soldering for a good riser cable I see why they aren't cheap. Saying that a $12 price is reasonable if materials and component acquisition alone is $8 is not a reasonable assumption unless the company is doing direct sales, has loads of free warehouse space and has the cheapest labor available - and even then it sounds like a stretch. I would imagine components + assembly would then easily hit or exceed that price, and any sales price would then also need to cover what you say - storage, shipping, other overhead costs. profit margins, etc.

Besides, you didn't say you were speaking strictly of "base costs of materials & component acquisition", you said "the MFGR's COSTS" - which in any reasonable scenario also includes labor, factory space, equipment costs, etc. Component acquisition costs =/= manufacturer's costs.
 
Joined
Jan 20, 2019
Messages
1,556 (0.73/day)
Location
London, UK
System Name ❶ Oooh (2024) ❷ Aaaah (2021) ❸ Ahemm (2017)
Processor ❶ 5800X3D ❷ i7-9700K ❸ i7-7700K
Motherboard ❶ X570-F ❷ Z390-E ❸ Z270-E
Cooling ❶ ALFIII 360 ❷ X62 + X72 (GPU mod) ❸ X62
Memory ❶ 32-3600/16 ❷ 32-3200/16 ❸ 16-3200/16
Video Card(s) ❶ 3080 X Trio ❷ 2080TI (AIOmod) ❸ 1080TI
Storage ❶ NVME/SSD/HDD ❷ <SAME ❸ SSD/HDD
Display(s) ❶ 1440/165/IPS ❷ 1440/144/IPS ❸ 1080/144/IPS
Case ❶ BQ Silent 601 ❷ Cors 465X ❸ Frac Mesh C
Audio Device(s) ❶ HyperX C2 ❷ HyperX C2 ❸ Logi G432
Power Supply ❶ HX1200 Plat ❷ RM750X ❸ EVGA 650W G2
Mouse ❶ Logi G Pro ❷ Razer Bas V3 ❸ Logi G502
Keyboard ❶ Logi G915 TKL ❷ Anne P2 ❸ Logi G610
Software ❶ Win 11 ❷ 10 ❸ 10
Benchmark Scores I have wrestled bandwidths, Tussled with voltages, Handcuffed Overclocks, Thrown Gigahertz in Jail
"Regardless of build quality, as long as it's built to last" is a rather contradictory statement.

i can see how that came across lol I meant cheaper materials and a passable over-all composed design with somewhat decent airflow - and good enough to last in a static environment. I'm just dying to get my hands on a desk pocket sized chassis and refuse to pay anything above 80 quid (i'm just built that way - cheapy cheapers but won't settle for plastic windows) :p


Also, sandwich-layout cases aren't becoming that cheap any time soon simply due to the requirement for a quality PCIe riser cable, which is easily a $30 cost to the manufacturer - which will obviously become higher than that when passed on to the end user. There's also the issue of lack of economics of scale in the SFF space - due to compatibility issues and the sheer number of different layouts possible it's really hard to reach sufficient sales volumes to make cases cheaper - though hopefully we'll see developments of cases like the InWin A1 or Corsair QBX moving to SFX PSUs in the near future for some more space savings. Still, tooling even for a small mass-produced case can cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to manufacture. Still, if you're into that sort of thing there are dozens of more affordable options (both copies of more established designs and a lot of original designs) in the 4-15l range on TaoBao - you just have to go through an agent like Superbuy and live with the delays and lead times of small-scale manufacturing. There's a giant thread full of this over on the smallformfactor.net forums :)

I bought a riser and vertical mount a couple of years ago for the NZXT s340 - so have one already. It was a pointless and expensive adventure (£45 in total - an impulsive purchase at best). Worst of it, the GPUs belly is ugly but the spinning fans do have some therapeutic effect when i'm lost at sea. The cost of SFX PSUs/hdplex-type on the other hand, thats a bummer.

superbuy/taobao thats caught my attention :)

Are these sites legit? The search bar is useless in superbuy, any other agent affiliated links for a more user friendly search? It does work when i key in 'SFX'. I'm interested in searching for other/all types of products too. I would love some other tips too (if you don't mind)... anything to grab a bargain!!

Sorry i'm full of Q's. ....."There's a giant thread full of this over on the smallformfactor.net forums"..... can you link the thread. I had a quick look but wasn't sure which one to view.

........ those sites you mentioned are NOT in my top 10 list....


Please share :) If it's confidential, maybe a one-time single share via PM?? (cheeky me)

I'm totally interested in finding cheaper platforms opposed to Ebay and Amazon. Aliexpress is decent but sometimes either it's limited (to what im looking for), or products are named differently or when you finally find something you want it's hardly a bargain. I'd like to look into more options either buying directly from manufacturers/affiliated agents or newer platforms where the price is more attractive (trusted ones pls).
 
Last edited:
Joined
Jul 8, 2015
Messages
35 (0.01/day)
Location
Greece
Processor Intel Core i7 10700K
Motherboard Asus Rog Strix Z490-G Gaming (WI-FI) mATX
Cooling Arctic Liquid Freezer II 240
Memory HyperX Fury 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 3200MHz CL16 @3466MHZ
Video Card(s) Gigabyte RTX 3070 8GB Aorus Master
Storage Adata XPG SX8200 Pro 256GB M.2 NVMe // Samsung 850 EVO 500GB // Seagate Firecuda 2TB
Display(s) Dell S2417DG @165hz @1440p @G-sync / 24" inch
Case Fractal Design Meshify C Mini TG @mATX
Audio Device(s) Creative Sound Blaster G6 USB // Philips SHP9500S 50mm
Power Supply EVGA SuperNova 850 G2
Mouse Razer Viper Ultimate
Keyboard HyperX Alloy Origins Core (HyperX Red)
Software Windows 10 Pro
Personally i dont care much if they copied the 011.. As long as they did a better job at the details and material wise, why ppl make a fuss about it?
The lian li model has some problems with the glass on the side jumping off the panel in some cases, many complain about that. They must have used low quality glue.

Also thermals may be better on this case versus the lian li original, i hope that a reviewer will make a comparison between them with a same fan setup.
If its on top and ticks all the right boxes, its gonna be my next case, couldn't care less if they gone "ctrl c, ctrl v", thats a problem for the companies to solve.
 
Joined
May 2, 2017
Messages
7,762 (2.81/day)
Location
Back in Norway
System Name Hotbox
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5800X, 110/95/110, PBO +150Mhz, CO -7,-7,-20(x6),
Motherboard ASRock Phantom Gaming B550 ITX/ax
Cooling LOBO + Laing DDC 1T Plus PWM + Corsair XR5 280mm + 2x Arctic P14
Memory 32GB G.Skill FlareX 3200c14 @3800c15
Video Card(s) PowerColor Radeon 6900XT Liquid Devil Ultimate, UC@2250MHz max @~200W
Storage 2TB Adata SX8200 Pro
Display(s) Dell U2711 main, AOC 24P2C secondary
Case SSUPD Meshlicious
Audio Device(s) Optoma Nuforce μDAC 3
Power Supply Corsair SF750 Platinum
Mouse Logitech G603
Keyboard Keychron K3/Cooler Master MasterKeys Pro M w/DSA profile caps
Software Windows 10 Pro
I bought a riser and vertical mount a couple of years ago for the NZXT s340 - so have one already. It was a pointless and expensive adventure (£45 in total - an impulsive purchase at best). Worst of it, the GPUs belly is ugly but the spinning fans do have some therapeutic effect when i'm lost at sea. The cost of SFX PSUs/hdplex-type on the other hand, thats a bummer.
Isn't the S340 one of those cases that puts vertically mounted GPUs up against the glass, choking them and cooking them? Sounds like a bad idea for performance or longevity.
superbuy/taobao thats caught my attention :)

Are these sites legit? The search bar is useless in superbuy, any other agent affiliated links for a more user friendly search? It does work when i key in 'SFX'. I'm interested in searching for other/all types of products too. I would love some other tips too (if you don't mind)... anything to grab a bargain!!

Sorry i'm full of Q's. ....."There's a giant thread full of this over on the smallformfactor.net forums"..... can you link the thread. I had a quick look but wasn't sure which one to view.
Here's the thread, currently 64 pages and counting, constantly being updated with new cases and other useful stuff.

You can't really search TaoBao through an agent or in English - agent search is mainly for "searching" for the URL of an already known product, and searching TaoBao itself in English is very hit and miss. Browsing threads where people share their discoveries is far more reliable.

TaoBao is entirely "legit", though I guess that depends what you mean. AFAIK it's one of the world's biggest online retailers, if not the biggest. It's an open marketplace where you buy from independent vendors, not from TaoBao itself, along the lines of Amazon Marketplace. The site is Chinese, and currently is only really open for Chinese customers, as you normally need a Chinese billing address and shipping address - few sellers offer international shipping, and payment can be even trickier. SuperBuy (and others like Bhiner, there are also others) is a purchase agent service for foreign customers that can handle customs and international shipping as well as communication with sellers and other relevant services. They have a stellar reputation for customer service (though I haven't used them myself). If you have questions about a product, you get your Superbuy rep to ask the seller and translate the reply for you. They also offer inspection of purchased products to ensure you don't get a damaged or faulty one before they ship it to you, and they give you a "virtual warehouse" where you can store multiple purchases to have them shipped to you in one go, saving shipping costs. Their shipping fees and service fees are generally reasonable too.
Please share :) If it's confidential, maybe a one-time single share via PM?? (cheeky me)
I believe that was meant as a general "I wouldn't really trust those sites" type of comment, not as in there being an actual top ten list ;)
I'm totally interested in finding cheaper platforms opposed to Ebay and Amazon. Aliexpress is decent but sometimes either it's limited (to what im looking for), or products are named differently or when you finally find something you want it's hardly a bargain. I'd like to look into more options either buying directly from manufacturers/affiliated agents or newer platforms where the price is more attractive (trusted ones pls).
I think you have a bit of a naive view of what's possible here. You're not going to find cheaper good quality products in low-number sales - buying directly from manufacturers normally means buying in bulk, which is how prices are driven down. TaoBao is a decent middle ground here, mainly due to the proliferation of small-scale case manufacturers in China, but that is also only due to the market there being massive. They wouldn't survive otherwise. And cheap? Not really. It's quite easy to find $200 SFF cases there. Beyond that, AE and Ebay are good for commodity products (with the required caveats that a lot of stuff sold there is of very dubious quality, so be mindful), but not specialty/low volume ones like cases etc.
 
Joined
Jan 20, 2019
Messages
1,556 (0.73/day)
Location
London, UK
System Name ❶ Oooh (2024) ❷ Aaaah (2021) ❸ Ahemm (2017)
Processor ❶ 5800X3D ❷ i7-9700K ❸ i7-7700K
Motherboard ❶ X570-F ❷ Z390-E ❸ Z270-E
Cooling ❶ ALFIII 360 ❷ X62 + X72 (GPU mod) ❸ X62
Memory ❶ 32-3600/16 ❷ 32-3200/16 ❸ 16-3200/16
Video Card(s) ❶ 3080 X Trio ❷ 2080TI (AIOmod) ❸ 1080TI
Storage ❶ NVME/SSD/HDD ❷ <SAME ❸ SSD/HDD
Display(s) ❶ 1440/165/IPS ❷ 1440/144/IPS ❸ 1080/144/IPS
Case ❶ BQ Silent 601 ❷ Cors 465X ❸ Frac Mesh C
Audio Device(s) ❶ HyperX C2 ❷ HyperX C2 ❸ Logi G432
Power Supply ❶ HX1200 Plat ❷ RM750X ❸ EVGA 650W G2
Mouse ❶ Logi G Pro ❷ Razer Bas V3 ❸ Logi G502
Keyboard ❶ Logi G915 TKL ❷ Anne P2 ❸ Logi G610
Software ❶ Win 11 ❷ 10 ❸ 10
Benchmark Scores I have wrestled bandwidths, Tussled with voltages, Handcuffed Overclocks, Thrown Gigahertz in Jail
Isn't the S340 one of those cases that puts vertically mounted GPUs up against the glass, choking them and cooking them? Sounds like a bad idea for performance or longevity.

Actually i dropped the S340 to the brother and grabbed a fully tempered glass side-panelled S340 elite. With H500's launched, the 'elite' was pocketed for around 70 quid. Okay that was a pointless mention lol, it's pretty much the same case but with a full internal view. You're correct about proximity concerns with GPU/PANEL kiss-mode. But it's not too bad, mine sees a feasibly sizeable gap between my card and window. I was initially looking for an adjustable mount and something "was" newly available back then (i think from corsair/phanteks) but the asking price was ridiculous. More importantly, I'm seeing only a 3c+ temp difference in vertical mode and whilst gaming I never cross over 78c unless im in the deep-end of the hot summer where fan curve adjustments are called in. I was hoping to reduce temps when going vertical by adding a second fan to the front 280mm rad (push/pull) so it sits closer to the GPU (i read someone benefited with this type of arrangement using one of those hot vega cards) - but 78c max to me seemed reasonable so left it as is (plus, i didn't fancy modding the cable management bar which would require removal/somehow bolting it a little to the left to fit the additional fan).

Actually, this was one of the reasons i've been eyeing up LI LIAN cases for a long time. The cost just put me off. The bottom 3-fan intake has worked wonders for vertical mounts and the case offers plenty of headroom between the glass panel and card. With too many completed builds seen, the enthusiasm has just died down and now it's all about going smaller and RGB-less performance orientated (well just about).


Here's the thread, currently 64 pages and counting, constantly being updated with new cases and other useful stuff.

Bookmarked!! I love a good read... thanks for the link :)

You can't really search TaoBao through an agent or in English - agent search is mainly for "searching" for the URL of an already known product, and searching TaoBao itself in English is very hit and miss. Browsing threads where people share their discoveries is far more reliable.

TaoBao is entirely "legit", though I guess that depends what you mean. AFAIK it's one of the world's biggest online retailers, if not the biggest. It's an open marketplace where you buy from independent vendors, not from TaoBao itself, along the lines of Amazon Marketplace. The site is Chinese, and currently is only really open for Chinese customers, as you normally need a Chinese billing address and shipping address - few sellers offer international shipping, and payment can be even trickier. SuperBuy (and others like Bhiner, there are also others) is a purchase agent service for foreign customers that can handle customs and international shipping as well as communication with sellers and other relevant services. They have a stellar reputation for customer service (though I haven't used them myself). If you have questions about a product, you get your Superbuy rep to ask the seller and translate the reply for you. They also offer inspection of purchased products to ensure you don't get a damaged or faulty one before they ship it to you, and they give you a "virtual warehouse" where you can store multiple purchases to have them shipped to you in one go, saving shipping costs. Their shipping fees and service fees are generally reasonable too.

I believe that was meant as a general "I wouldn't really trust those sites" type of comment, not as in there being an actual top ten list ;)

useful tips/procedures. It would be rude of me to ask, SHARE MOREEEE LOL

I think you have a bit of a naive view of what's possible here. You're not going to find cheaper good quality products in low-number sales - buying directly from manufacturers normally means buying in bulk, which is how prices are driven down. TaoBao is a decent middle ground here, mainly due to the proliferation of small-scale case manufacturers in China, but that is also only due to the market there being massive. They wouldn't survive otherwise. And cheap? Not really. It's quite easy to find $200 SFF cases there. Beyond that, AE and Ebay are good for commodity products (with the required caveats that a lot of stuff sold there is of very dubious quality, so be mindful), but not specialty/low volume ones like cases etc.

Ah! TaoBao is a sales platform by manufacturers? I was under the impression it's e-retail/other? Are single piece purchases possible? I was interested in this product for a second ITX build alongside my gaming rig https://www.superbuy.com/en/page/buy?url=https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=590456069854&nTag=Agent-product-taobao Since seeing this last night, i've been going nuts with the build possibilities around this art-fully gorgeous open-case for the last 24 hours and have already put together a parts list on PCPP ( Ryzen 2600X + B450i etc). ME WANT GOOD NEWS... or alternative possibility with a similarly priced option.

EDIT: i was meaning to ask, is TaoBao similar to Ali Baba/Dhgate? Or more edging towards single-piece made possible Aliexpress?
 
Joined
Oct 2, 2019
Messages
89 (0.05/day)
Processor Ryzen 5 1600 3.8GHz@1.331V
Motherboard ASUS Strix B350-F
Cooling Noctua NH-D15
Memory Kingston HyperX Fury DDR4 16G*2 3000MHz CL16 @1.35V
Video Card(s) Msi RTX 2070 Super Gaming Z Trio
Storage WD Blue 500G SSD*1 WD Black 2TB*1
Display(s) ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q
Case Lian Li O11D XL
Audio Device(s) Edifier C3X
Power Supply Corsair RM750x
Mouse logitech G102 with modded micro switchs
Benchmark Scores Time Spy 9943
MetallicGear : Hey, Lian Li, Can I copy your homework?

Lian Li : Sure, Just change it up a bit so it doesn't look obvious you copied.

MetallicGear : *Neo Qube*
 
Joined
Dec 13, 2019
Messages
47 (0.03/day)
Great Case and very affordable too.
I would even say, this is the best Case available according to Radiator Mounting Positions in my Opinion.
 
Joined
May 2, 2017
Messages
7,762 (2.81/day)
Location
Back in Norway
System Name Hotbox
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5800X, 110/95/110, PBO +150Mhz, CO -7,-7,-20(x6),
Motherboard ASRock Phantom Gaming B550 ITX/ax
Cooling LOBO + Laing DDC 1T Plus PWM + Corsair XR5 280mm + 2x Arctic P14
Memory 32GB G.Skill FlareX 3200c14 @3800c15
Video Card(s) PowerColor Radeon 6900XT Liquid Devil Ultimate, UC@2250MHz max @~200W
Storage 2TB Adata SX8200 Pro
Display(s) Dell U2711 main, AOC 24P2C secondary
Case SSUPD Meshlicious
Audio Device(s) Optoma Nuforce μDAC 3
Power Supply Corsair SF750 Platinum
Mouse Logitech G603
Keyboard Keychron K3/Cooler Master MasterKeys Pro M w/DSA profile caps
Software Windows 10 Pro
Top