PCI-Express Gen 6 Reaches Development Milestone, On Track for 2021 Rollout

[bug]

Fragmenting HELPS SSDs. The more scattered the files are around different NAND clousters, the faster the SSD can read them, to a point, as a SSD can read from multiple clusters at once, but not multiple files from the same cluster at once.

You can't fragment a SSD, the OS doesn't see the physical locations. Those are taken care in the background for you

 

[eidairaman1]

Zen 4 Ryzen 5000 may implement this. Along with DDR5

 

[R-T-B]

Refreshing? I've been rocking 3.0 for 8 years and only now looking at a machine with 4.0 where I'll still be using 3.0 devices for probably the first couple years. At this rate, I'll get around to using PCIe 6 in well over a decade.

Yeah, kinda feels refreshing to me in the same sense that taking a dump is "refreshing."

Sure, but it's still crappy.

 

[TechLurker]

I could see AMD possibly implementing PCIe 6.0 on the CPU, but let mobo makers downgrade it to PCIe 5.0 or 4.0 in the consumer space on X and B series motherboards. Even split it further to 3.0 on A series motherboards. Something roughly like: (I know it's likely not correct, but trying to get the idea across)

• X-series Motherboards see the total x20 or x24 6.0 lanes converted to a total of x40/x48 5.0 lanes or even x80/x96 4.0 lanes or some combination thereof of 4.0 and 5.0 lanes.
• B-series Motherboards see the 6.0 lanes converted to x80/x96 4.0 lanes
• A-series Motherboards see the 6.0 lanes converted to 1 x16 PCIe 4.0 GPU Slot and 1 x4 NVMe Slot, and the remaining 6.0 lanes converted to x120/x152 3.0 lanes.

With PCIe 4.0 and 5.0 needing redrivers/signal repeaters, it'll take a long while of usage in the consumer space before those ever become cheap enough, or if there's a material breakthrough in room temperature superconductors that does away with them (or a complete design shift to the next motherboard and PSU standard). So aside from halo X-series Motherboards pushing 5.0, cheaper ones might only use 5.0 for the 1st GPU and 1st NVMe drive, and the rest using 4.0, which is good enough for future-proofing for awhile, considering that only storage and Ethernet have immediate benefits from more bandwidth (assuming one has the appropriate add-in cards).

PCIe 6.0 will really only be useful for cloud datacenters and research institutions that need more than 500 GbE networking, as beyond that there isn't yet any sort of non-proprietary hardware that could really utilize that amount of bandwidth, especially not at the consumer level. Further, it might be preferable to use cables for PCIe 5.0 and 6.0, considering that they're cheaper than relying on retimers/redrivers and specialized PCBs. Kind of like the PCIe version of the classic SATA cable, but now plugging into add-in cards alongside the power cables (or maybe even replacing the power cables; should the shift to pure 12v PSUs and motherboards mean redesigning power delivery as a whole).

 

[Totally]

Not sure it's possible with current slot design. Hence why Apple designed a proprietary connector for the Mac Pro that can deliver more power.

That connector wasn't designed to supplement in addition to, it was created to simply replace/hide 6 and 8pin connectors.

 

[TheLostSwede]

That connector wasn't designed to supplement in addition to, it was created to simply replace/hide 6 and 8pin connectors.

Huh? It still delivers more power than those cables. The Mac Pro can deliver up to 500W to those slots, which is more than the 300W PCIe supports.

 

[Totally]

Huh? It still delivers more power than those cables. The Mac Pro can deliver up to 500W to those slots, which is more than the 300W PCIe supports.

But that connector they made has nothing to do with that.

 

[R0H1T]

In the consumer space, yes.
But isn't it refreshing that at least one component in your PC is so fast, you needn't worry about it for a few more years?

Yes & it'll affect the enterprise space as well, the issue with PCIe 4 or PCIe 6 won't just go away because we're switching to the other side of the equation.

Hey everyone's for progress, at least the vast majority of people in this field are but the major issue we as consumers face is the exorbitant premiums we have to shell often times for unfinished & jerky/quirky implementations which ideally should've ironed out in the testing phase. Till the time companies rush out things, like that Galaxy Fold flop, in th name of unique we'll continue seeing aversion towards better adoption of such technologies.

Zen 4 Ryzen 5000

It'll likely come with DDR5 support. PCIe 6.0 is still 2 years too early even for Intel. It'll be 2022 before we see anything sporting the latest standard & even that is a stretch given we still don't have PCIe 5.0 hardware.

 

[TheLostSwede]

But that connector they made has nothing to do with that.

Then please enlighten us.
It looks like it has everything to do with power from what I can tell...