First Picture of AMD B550 Motherboard Appears

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I doubt that AMD would release a new PCIe 2.0 chipset at this point in time because that's the issue with B450/X470. They are 2.0 and only offer up to a measly 8 lanes which is why almost none of them has a secondary M.2 through the chipset.

I didn't say exactly the same, did I?

 

[gamefoo21]

Yeah I really don't expect the Asmedia to have PCIe 4.0. not when people are still buying up B450/X470/B550A chipsets that are only PCIe 2.0.

Also they would have silk screened PCIe 4.0 all over that board.

 

[Chrispy_]

Wow, I had a Soyo board over 20 years ago, some Intel 440BX model after my Abit BE6 crapped out on me. I thought Soyo was a long-dead company but clearly they just withdrew from the global market and continued in their domestic market.

I managed the same overclock and it was definitely less flaky than the Abit. I guess from that tiny sample size of 1 board each it correlates with Soyo surviving and Abit dying off in the 00's

 

[TheLostSwede]

Wow, I had a Soyo board over 20 years ago, some Intel 440BX model after my Abit BE6 crapped out on me. I thought Soyo was a long-dead company but clearly they just withdrew from the global market and continued in their domestic market.

I managed the same overclock and it was definitely less flaky than the Abit. I guess from that tiny sample size of 1 board each it correlates with Soyo surviving and Abit dying off in the 00's

The US you mean?

Soyo Group - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It's no longer the US or Taiwanese company, it's just some Chinese company that bought the brand and uses it in China.

I had one of these babies, it was a really good motherboard at the time.

 

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Wow, I had a Soyo board over 20 years ago, some Intel 440BX model after my Abit BE6 crapped out on me. I thought Soyo was a long-dead company but clearly they just withdrew from the global market and continued in their domestic market.

I managed the same overclock and it was definitely less flaky than the Abit. I guess from that tiny sample size of 1 board each it correlates with Soyo surviving and Abit dying off in the 00's

Yeah, well, most makers are gone now. Soyo, Abit, DFI, Epox, ECS... And I'm probably forgetting a few
These days it's Asus, MSI, Gigabyte or AsRock. And then you notice MSI and Gigabyte use 128Mbit flash ROMs, MSI sells only Realtek LAN* and you're left with a joke of a choice

*not sure if across the board, but when I look, their entire X470 lineup was like that.

 

[Chrispy_]

And then you notice MSI and Gigabyte use 128Mbit flash ROMs, MSI sells only Realtek LAN* and you're left with a joke of a choice

*not sure if across the board, but when I look, their entire X470 lineup was like that.

Honestly, I think the 16MB ROM chips was a temporary thing that caught vendors out because AM4 is such a long-lived platform with so many CPUs to support. Gigabyte and MSI have both corrected that issue with revised 400-series motherboards and 500-series are obviously all fine.

MSI use Killer NICs too, which are just generic Intel ethernet controllers with Killer-specific alternative drivers. You can just install the Intel drivers on a Killer NIC if you don't want the Killer software stack.

 

[EarthDog]

People are about as polarized on the Killer Network as they are on Realtek. I'd bet 99% of us, including bug, wouldn't be able to tell if there was a Killer, Intel, or Realtek NIC under the hood...

If a smaller ROM issue (that has been resolved) is the biggest issue, along with NIC type, I'd say we are in a good state.

 

[bug]

People are about as polarized on the Killer Network as they are on Realtek. I'd bet 99% of us, including bug, wouldn't be able to tell if there was a Killer, Intel, or Realtek NIC under the hood...

If a smaller ROM issue (that has been resolved) is the biggest issue, along with NIC type, I'd say we are in a good state.

The problem (for me) isn't the hardware, it's the drivers. On my laptop I cannot get DPC latency low enough to watch video without sound going out of sync. Why? Network drivers. Provider? Realtek!

 

[EarthDog]

Oh, laptops... I thought this was a desktop thread!

I wonder if this is a rampant issue or something a few (relatively speaking, lol) run into. I'm good with my laptop and Realtek... but it isn't an MSI (though wouldn't they use the same drivers for the same NIC)?

 

[bug]

Oh, laptops... I thought this was a desktop thread!

I wonder if this is a rampant issue or something a few (relatively speaking, lol) run into. I'm good with my laptop and Realtek... but it isn't an MSI (though wouldn't they use the same drivers for the same NIC)?

Beats me. It could have something to do with power management. And at some point I read about a Win10 update that supposedly wreaked havoc with DPC (I believe it's supposed to be fixed now).
Long story short, some setups seem to be more trouble free than others. Without the time to invest in fixing problems, I need to take the safer route.

 

[EarthDog]

Beats me. It could have something to do with power management. And at some point I read about a Win10 update that supposedly wreaked havoc with DPC (I believe it's supposed to be fixed now).
Long story short, some setups seem to be more trouble free than others. Without the time to invest in fixing problems, I need to take the safer route.

So maybve it isn't actually Realtek causing the issue. Correlation and causation and all.

 

[bug]

So maybve it isn't actually Realtek causing the issue. Correlation and causation and all.

Realtek drivers are genera;;y known to be poorer than Intel's. Like you said, this isn't an issue in most cases. I only gave you an example of a situation I know of first hand, where they might be.