Next-Generation Laptop Hardware from Intel and NVIDIA Coming April 2nd

[AleksandarK]

Intel and NVIDIA are preparing to refresh their hardware offering meant for laptop devices, and they are planning to do it on April 2nd. According to the Chinese website ITHome, Intel is going to launch its 10th generation Comet Lake-H CPUs for mobile devices, on April 2nd. The new models are going to bring improved frequency and core count, with top-end models reaching up to 8 cores with 16 threads. NVIDIA, on the other hand, will also update its mobile offerings with the arrival of Turing SUPER mobile cards. So far, we only had a choice of regular Turing series, however, there is soon going to be a SUPER variant of the existing cards.

Being that these cards are also expected to arrive on April 2nd, laptop manufacturers will integrate new products and showcase their solutions on that date. The availability of these devices, based on new Intel Comet Lake-H CPUs and NVIDIA Turing SUPER GPUs, is expected to follow soon after, precisely on April 15th. Additionally, it is notable that laptop manufacturer Mechrevo will hold an online press conference where they will showcase their "Z3" gaming laptop based on new technologies.


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[IceShroom]

2 years old GPU is next gen???

 

[ARF]

2 years old GPU is next gen???

The Radeon RX 590 GME is a 4-year-old GPU, so these are still better.

Nvidia: New GeForce GPUs Long Way Off

Nvidia: New GeForce GPUs Long Way Off, Giant G-Sync Displays Coming Soon

Nvidia isn't giving any hints on when next-generation GPUs will be available, but it expects its Big Format Gaming Displays to hit market sooner rather than later.

www.extremetech.com

 

[IceShroom]

The Radeon RX 590 GME is a 4-year-old GPU, so these are still better.

Nvidia: New GeForce GPUs Long Way Off, Giant G-Sync Displays Coming Soon

Nvidia isn't giving any hints on when next-generation GPUs will be available, but it expects its Big Format Gaming Displays to hit market sooner rather than later.

www.extremetech.com

Well AMD is not selling that as "Next gen" GPU and it does not cost $1200+. And unlike 590 GME you cant replace those "Next gen" GPUs with real next gen GPU.

 

[Vayra86]

2 years old GPU is next gen???

Compared to last gen, its always next gen right?

After all in most cases 'gen' is little more than a performance bump across the stack, so really, potato potatoe... It only really matters when things get shrunk. And with laptops it really is buyer due diligence to begin with. Its a god damn maze of confusion to begin with. Everywhere.

 

[notb]

Well AMD is not selling that as "Next gen" GPU and it does not cost $1200+.

Being brutally honest, AMD probably is not selling it at all.

Turing Super is "next gen" in laptops. We don't have anything more recent in that realm.

Similarly, one could say Zen2 mobile APUs are not next gen, because we've had that architecture in desktops for a year already. Would you?

 

[fancucker]

Why worry about generations when AMDs gpu offerings are woefully inefficient. And to compound the issue they're still yet achieve parity more than years later with the flagship competitor

 

[IceShroom]

Why worry about generations when AMDs gpu offerings are woefully inefficient. And to compound the issue they're still yet achieve parity more than years later with the flagship competitor

Nvidia fanboy spend no time to hark 2 years old architecture when ever and launches a new GPU.

Being brutally honest, AMD probably is not selling it at all.

Turing Super is "next gen" in laptops. We don't have anything more recent in that realm.

Similarly, one could say Zen2 mobile APUs are not next gen, because we've had that architecture in desktops for a year already. Would you?

Those new super are not new silicone design like Renoir. And Zen2 is only 8 month old compared to 2 years old like Turing.

 

[R0H1T]

Being brutally honest, AMD probably is not selling it at all.

Turing Super is "next gen" in laptops. We don't have anything more recent in that realm.

Similarly, one could say Zen2 mobile APUs are not next gen, because we've had that architecture in desktops for a year already. Would you?

Considering it's an entirely new piece of Si, being monolithic, absolutely it is & smokes anything from Intel hands down! Heck the cache as well as latencies are vastly different than desktop parts, did I mention industry leading support for LPDDRx 4266 btw?

 

[notb]

Those new super are not new silicone design like Renoir. And Zen2 is only 8 month old compared to 2 years old like Turing.

OK, so there's some threshold age when things stop being "next gen"?
You made an impression that you only consider things "next gen" if they weren't available earlier - even for different PC form factor.

Also, Renoir is Zen2 + Vega, which makes it older on average.

 

[ARF]

Rebrand is not next-gen. Next-gen is something that comes packed with new technologies, considerable improvements, better manufacturing, better qualities, better performance per dollar, etc.

Vega is terrible, also but at least it has some improvements per clock, too.

 

[Vayra86]

No guys. Next-gen is marketing. And next-gen in marketing is just one thing and one thing alone: It succeeds the previous gen.

You can drop it now because this is clearly going to go nowhere...

 

[notb]

Considering it's an entirely new piece of Si, being monolithic,

OMG. I've been hearing for 3 years about awesome MCM Ryzen design and how Intel keeps making ancient monolithic CPUs.
I understand that monolithic suddenly becomes awesome?

absolutely it is & smokes anything from Intel hands down!

Just recall how Zen+ mobile APUs smoked Intel last year.
I strongly suggest you wait for the reviews.

Also, if you got this impression based on AMD's CES presentation graphs, I'd say you're pretty easily smoked.

did I mention industry leading support for LPDDRx 4266 btw?

So amazing! I don't know how Ice Lake users (LPDDR4X-3733) will live with the shame.

Did I mention Tiger Lake will likely support LPDDR5?
If AMD doesn't change their roadmap scheme, DDR5 will appear on their mobile platform in 2022 at best - following desktop support in 2022. Or maybe a year later?

 

[Houd.ini]

Weren't SUPER desktop cards faster at the expense of efficiency? Who would want that in a laptop?

 

[medi01]

I guess the actual news is Intel coughing up 8 core 16 thread mobile chip.
They've compared AMD's 4000 series 8/16 to 4/8 Intel and it wasn't rosy for the latter.
Idle power consumption was a bit better on blue side, though.

Ryzen 4000 CPUs explained: How AMD optimized Zen 2 for laptops

AMD executives explain how the Ryzen 4000 mobile CPUs will leap ahead of the prior generation thanks to a carefully balanced design.

www.pcworld.com

 

[R0H1T]

OMG. I've been hearing for 3 years about awesome MCM Ryzen design and how Intel keeps making ancient monolithic CPUs.
I understand that monolithic suddenly becomes awesome?

Where did I say that, you just went on a tangent after proclaiming how Zen 2 APU are last gen

I strongly suggest you wait for the reviews.

You mean like the ones posted by notebookcheck that was taken down, or is that not reliable anymore?

Did I mention Tiger Lake will likely support LPDDR5?

Oh cool, wake us up when Tiger lake isn't paper launched like the last few bleeding (node) edge products by Intel

 

[notb]

Weren't SUPER desktop cards faster at the expense of efficiency? Who would want that in a laptop?

Gamers?
Most high-performance gaming laptops have poor battery life anyway.

Where did I say that, you just went on a tangent after proclaiming how Zen 2 APU are last gen

Well, they use last year technology served in a package that AMD fans call outdated.
I never said they are "last gen"... whatever that means.

You mean like the ones posted by notebookcheck that was taken down, or is that not reliable anymore?

You have some copy etc? I don't read all CPU reviews. I guess I'm too busy using CPUs...

Oh cool, wake us up when Tiger lake isn't paper launched like the last few bleeding (node) edge products by Intel

Yes, yes. Ice Lake doesn't exist. I've heard that earlier.

Well, Tiger Lake is expected in second half of this year.
I'm not sure if it will be a massive launch with dozens of products, which would make it an existing product in your eyes.
But something tells me we'll see more Tiger Lake laptops than Renoir ones. Even if it's few months after the latter was announced...

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

The Radeon RX 590 GME is a 4-year-old GPU, so these are still better.

Nvidia: New GeForce GPUs Long Way Off, Giant G-Sync Displays Coming Soon

Nvidia isn't giving any hints on when next-generation GPUs will be available, but it expects its Big Format Gaming Displays to hit market sooner rather than later.

www.extremetech.com

At some point in time perhaps read up on the thread you post in , Intel and Nvidia releases new MOBILE processors.
What's a discrete AMD got Todo with anything here.

 

[R0H1T]

Gamers?
Most high-performance gaming laptops have poor battery life anyway.

Well, they use last year technology served in a package that AMD fans call outdated.
I never said they are "last gen"... whatever that means.

You have some copy etc? I don't read all CPU reviews. I guess I'm too busy using CPUs...

Yes, yes. Ice Lake doesn't exist. I've heard that earlier.

Well, Tiger Lake is expected in second half of this year.
I'm not sure if it will be a massive launch with dozens of products, which would make it an existing product in your eyes.
But something tells me we'll see more Tiger Lake laptops than Renoir ones. Even if it's few months after the latter was announced...

I always enjoy your clever little word play, not next gen could imply a lot of things & yet anyone is free to assume whatever they want to

You know it's a completely new chip/piece of Si right not just a renovated package

Sure, you tend to miss the good ones apparently at just the right time ~

Renoir R7 4800U results leaked

Comes from http://www.notebookcheck.net/ using Lenovo Yoga Slim 7-14ARE but apparently the review's been pulled. An absolute beast across the board, even more impressive is that it nearly matches the discreet mx350 but with 8c/16t though the TDP & RAM config isn't clear atm.

www.techpowerup.com

You want me to count their paper launches especially before the end of the year? Let's see ~ Broadwell, Cannon lake, Ice Lake & now possibly Tiger lake btw got any guesses whether TGL will be 10nm or 14nm for laptops?

 

[Cheeseball]

Weren't SUPER desktop cards faster at the expense of efficiency? Who would want that in a laptop?

That's just one of the smaller reasons why. You have to note they also have more parts in them too. For example, the RTX 2080 is a 215W chip with 184 TMUs, but the 2080 Super is a 250W chip with 192 TMUs and 1.5 GHz faster memory. Theres also the addition of more RT and Tensor cores that come into play too.

At this point in time, I'd rather see the newer Ryzen 2 CPUs along with a NVIDIA Super GPU in a laptop. The 5500M in the MSI Alpha 15 is underwhelming (slower than the GTX 1060 Max-Q as I've tested) but the one I've seen in the MacBook Pro 16" seems to be a lot better when running in Windows. I'm thinking it was just a CPU bottleneck holding it back though (9880HK vs 3750H).

 

[ARF]

At this point in time, I'd rather see the newer Ryzen 2 CPUs along with a NVIDIA Super GPU in a laptop. The 5500M in the MSI Alpha 15 is underwhelming

It's Navi 14, the RX 5600M with Navi 10 has higher performance.

 

[Cheeseball]

It's Navi 14, the RX 5600M with Navi 10 has higher performance.

Well, yeah, I know that. I'm awaiting the RX 5600M/5700M myself. Hopefully they would be competitive this time around.

 

[Mega-Japan]

Well I'm planning to get my hands on one of these so good to hear ^^