Windows 10 2004 Could Come Out in May

btarunr · Apr 10, 2020

Microsoft could release the next major update to Windows 10, aka 2004, in May as the Windows 10 May 2020 Update (build 19041.173). Codenamed "Manganese," Windows 10 2004 has been released to Windows Insiders (slow ring), who can now either update their current installations or get ISO files for the new operating system. For the rest of us, Microsoft could release the software some time in May. Windows 10 2004 introduces a "restore this PC from the cloud" option, refined Windows Update management system; a more functional Task Manager that can show GPU temperatures; improvements to Cortana, Windows Search, and Network management.

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Melvis · Apr 10, 2020

Yay and stuff.......Who uses Cortana? then Temp for GPU's in Task Manager I like! and thats about it as Im sure this update will break something like every other one has....

Jism · Apr 10, 2020

I skip any update from this point on, knowing the last update, cleared out valuable settings and stuff. There's no need to reset the whole thing related to user preferences, saved passwords and such.

Space Lynx · Apr 10, 2020

Aren't they removing control panel with this update too? Hard pass. Going to turn on Shut Up Ten to stop all updates.

windwhirl · Apr 10, 2020

Melvis said:
Who uses Cortana?

Does anyone ever use Cortana?

Space Lynx · Apr 10, 2020

windwhirl said:
Does anyone ever use Cortana?

No but it's M$'s way of having spyware running in the background so it's never going away.

windwhirl · Apr 10, 2020

lynx29 said:
Aren't they removing control panel with this update too?

Nope. Still there.

QUANTUMPHYSICS · Apr 10, 2020

Because I have an Area 51, my software includes a monitor for CPU Temperature (i9 Extreme with AIO) and the GPU (2080Ti )

I don't overclock so I've never really felt the need to watch CPU or GPU temp.

rtwjunkie · Apr 10, 2020

lynx29 said:
Aren't they removing control panel with this update too? Hard pass. Going to turn on Shut Up Ten to stop all updates.

Oh hell no! I love the control panel! I’ll pass.

QUANTUMPHYSICS said:
I don't overclock so I've never really felt the need to watch CPU or GPU tem

Whether you overclock or not, they are both good indicators when something is going wrong where to focus your efforts.

R-T-B · Apr 10, 2020

Melvis said:
Yay and stuff.......Who uses Cortana? then Temp for GPU's in Task Manager I like! and thats about it as Im sure this update will break something like every other one has....

Hardware GPU scheduling is a pretty big deal. It's only in this release.

I know the latest nvidia drivers support that, unsure on AMD (I've been on the oldish Radeon Pro drivers for like, forever).

RadeonProVega · Apr 10, 2020

Removing the control panel? That would be a dumb decision, might as not even install the update.

As for the task manager, i use classic task manager. Cortana i have disable lol. I actually use classic windows 7 apps on windows 10 anyway. Windows 10 is a great OS, but alot of their stuff , well I'm just thankful there's alot of "restore classic apps similar to windows 7". If not, i would never use Windows 10.

TechLurker · Apr 10, 2020

I had to do a double-take; it seems like I was reading that Microsoft was releasing Windows 2004, instead of Windows 10 Version 2004.

Though to be honest, I'd rather Microsoft go back to actual, comprehensive and not-half-assed OS releases, like XP and 7, where they cannot rely on just pushing out multiple tiny updates, including updates to fix a flaw from a previous mini update, and actually have to check it thoroughly enough before they can push it out as part of a Service Pack or Important Update.

They can leave the programs-as-a-service to their office suite and as a cheap, basic option for non-power users (also conveniently using them as live beta testing before rolling out proper, total fixes to the higher tier versions of the OS).

Dyatlov A · Apr 10, 2020

Give a service pack 3 for Windows 7, not this crap!

notb · Apr 10, 2020

Melvis said:
Yay and stuff.......Who uses Cortana?

Well, probably someone who uses voice assistants in general and happens to be on Windows (or Xbox).

Jism said:
There's no need to reset the whole thing related to user preferences, saved passwords and such.

Something is really wrong with your Windows if you have this kind of experience. Are you by chance using 3rd party customization software?

TechLurker said:
They can leave the programs-as-a-service to their office suite and as a cheap, basic option for non-power users

LOL on the "non-power users". Grow up.

Jism · Apr 10, 2020

notb said:
Something is really wrong with your Windows if you have this kind of experience. Are you by chance using 3rd party customization software?

Windows 10 X64 Pro, with a paid license obviously. I used Shut Up and disabled pretty much everything. So after a year i decided to cram a few updates in there. Once it was done it had reset various passwords related to "WIndows FTP" and various settings, turned back to normal.

It proberly updated the IE or so and it resetted alot of settings back to it's original, but come'on, an update is supposed to either secure or improve your computer, not have it lose data or re-run the complete list of changes i've done before.

notb · Apr 10, 2020

Jism said:
Windows 10 X64 Pro, with a paid license obviously. I used Shut Up and disabled pretty much everything. So after a year i decided to cram a few updates in there. Once it was done it had reset various passwords related to "WIndows FTP" and various settings, turned back to normal.

I update automatically or ASAP and have never seen anything similar to what you experience. Probably too much "power user-ish-ing".

You're using some kind of enforced local account?
Concent is pretty well separated from the OS as well. No OS update should overwrite anything.

Honestly, I got so used to cloud-backed accounts (in OS, browsers, software, gaming) that I almost forgot the kind of problems you're talking about. I reset my Windows (full file wipeout) at least once a year, login into a few apps and everything gets back to how I left it.

evernessince · Apr 10, 2020

Hey Microsoft how about enabling larger thumbnail sizes as a "feature" already. 256 x 256 (the largest size supported by windows) is tiny on a 4K screen.

Oh and how about adding an SSD cache and deferred writes. SSD cache, which would place a copy of frequently used files from slower HDDs onto the SSD cache (especially useful for games). Deferred writes, which would use system memory / SSD to accelerate write operations.

Vayra86 · Apr 10, 2020

I had to drop 1803 the other day and move up to 1809. And that is what I'll keep doing, because realistically what you have then is basically an enterprise solution. Most enterprises are on the same release schedule as for when they 'prefer' upgrading - maximum delay, pre empting that end of support date by a month or two.

P4-630 · Apr 10, 2020

Starting in May 2020, Microsoft will only release security updates for Windows.

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xtreemchaos · Apr 10, 2020

thay are not having my control panel, cold dead hands come to mind.

Berfs1 · Apr 10, 2020

why is it called windows 10 2004 lol we are in 2020

notb said:
I update automatically or ASAP and have never seen anything similar to what you experience. Probably too much "power user-ish-ing".

You're using some kind of enforced local account?
Concent is pretty well separated from the OS as well. No OS update should overwrite anything.

Honestly, I got so used to cloud-backed accounts (in OS, browsers, software, gaming) that I almost forgot the kind of problems you're talking about. I reset my Windows (full file wipeout) at least once a year, login into a few apps and everything gets back to how I left it.

Yeah some people with legitimate reasons try to stay away from cloud logins for everything. So yes, having local accounts are needed for specific reasons.

rtwjunkie said:
Whether you overclock or not, they are both good indicators when something is going wrong where to focus your efforts.

agreed, it's like needing to know your oil temperature in a car, you need to know even if your car isn't souped up, because you don't want it to overheat. (most cars have some sort of monitor/gauge for the oil temperature)

ARF · Apr 10, 2020

Berfs1 said:
why is it called windows 10 2004

It should be v.20H1 but they decided to name it after 20 from 2020 and 04 from the fourth month of the year - April

Will it provide fixes for performance / Windows scheduler?

And will TechPowerUp update its test review configuration?

Why don't they move on to the Fast Ring and test with the latest build ever created?

rtwjunkie · Apr 10, 2020

Berfs1 said:
why is it called windows 10 2004 lol we are in 2020

Because it was designed to be released in the 4the month of 2020. Others were the same: 1909, 1903, 1809, etc.

Daven · Apr 10, 2020

What's remarkable is that we have gone over 4.5 years since the release of Windows 10 without even a rumor of the next version of Windows. I'm guessing that Windows 10 will be the last with a number version as MS will move to a subscription model and just call it Windows from then on.

Edit: Windows might be called Windows 365 when it moves to a subscription model.

notb · Apr 10, 2020

Berfs1 said:
why is it called windows 10 2004 lol we are in 2020

YYMM is a very clean release naming convention.
Windows 10 uses it from the start (1507). MS Office 365 uses it as well.
Ubuntu adds a dot between year and month, i.e. 18.04.
There are some less popular examples as well.

Yeah some people with legitimate reasons try to stay away from cloud logins for everything. So yes, having local accounts are needed for specific reasons.

Well, I know people who had "legitimate reasons" not to use Internet from home even in the mid 2000s. I lost contact, so can't say if they changed their minds eventually.
Obviously this is not a topic to discuss such motives. So let's leave it there.

What I said is: if someone isn't afraid of the cloud, this is not a problem anymore.

Mark Little said:
What's remarkable is that we have gone over 4.5 years since the release of Windows 10 without even a rumor of the next version of Windows. I'm guessing that Windows 10 will be the last with a number version as MS will move to a subscription model and just call it Windows from then on.

Yes, Windows 10 was planned as the last "big launch". They've said that openly:

Why Microsoft is calling Windows 10 'the last version of Windows'

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There's really no reason to change the integer, background and icons every few years.
Windows 10 2004 will be vastly different to 1507 in both visuals and backend.
Few years from now it may be a full linux underneath and most people won't even notice.

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