Windows 10 2004 Could Come Out in May

[TechLurker]

LOL on the "non-power users". Grow up.

What's the problem? Not everyone wants or needs to tweak with an OS and are content to leave it stock. They're not "power users". I don't see an issue with the term.

 

[trparky]

Not everyone wants or needs to tweak with an OS and are content to leave it stock.

I've not tweaked Windows 10 at all. I use it as Microsoft intends it to be used. I have no issues, no update issues, none of the issues that so many people complain about having with Windows 10.

 

[R-T-B]

If it started on 1809 and it still present on 1909 i guess it still be present on 2004 ver.

*If you have an Intel CPU.

And if you have a present Intel CPU, it'll be on every future version ever, for security reasons.

What I said is: if someone isn't afraid of the cloud, this is not a problem anymore.

I'm not afraid of the cloud. I'm also in the driverseat as to when I choose to trust it.

I host my open source code there. But I do not use it for OS logins. It has no place for me there. Why would it benefit me, is my first question? And as of now it has failed to answer that.

YMMV, as always.

Wait. What?

It should be fixed come release. They are very aware of it.

A quick internet search for Windows 10 subscription lists dozens of articles talking about a Windows OS based subscription model. Here is a recent one:

There's been rumors of it since launch. Microsoft themselves have staunchly denied them all, but the rumors persist. False as they've ever been.

Uh... nope. I wouldn't touch that with a ten-foot pole. If it doesn't come from Microsoft, don't trust it.

Due to only signed drivers loading these days, it wouldn't load if it hadn't been Microsoft signed.

That said, it is probably beta quality.

 

[j0taDasFestasPT]

This update you are talking ? Or they didnt add micro code here ? Im just curious not blamming

 

[R-T-B]

I'd have to google the exact update that adds it, but it's baked into all modern windows distros post like, 2019.

 

[windwhirl]

I'd have to google the exact update that adds it, but it's baked into all modern windows distros post like, 2019.

Microsoft literally has a special page for Intel's microcode updates, apparently...

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4093836/summary-of-intel-microcode-updates

Goes as far as 1607 and the original RTM release (this one I guess it's there because it is still supported on LTSC/LTSB or whatever it's called now)

 

[R-T-B]

Microsoft literally has a special page for Intel's microcode updates, apparently...

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4093836/summary-of-intel-microcode-updates

Yeah just didn't have it quick-bookmarked on my phone, have a like for the quick & helpful reply...

 

[windwhirl]

Yeah just didn't have it quick-bookmarked on my phone, have a like for the quick & helpful reply...

To be honest, I was looking around for quite a while lol, but I'll take your likes anyway

 

[j0taDasFestasPT]

So 1709 and 1909 both share same micro code?

 

[trparky]

So 1709 and 1909 both share same micro code?

It's not Microsoft providing the microcode, it's Intel that provides the microcode. All Microsoft does is takes the microcode that Intel hands them, packages it up inside a DLL called mcupdate_GenuineIntel.dll that's loaded at boot to update the processor's microcode to fix their Swiss cheese.

So yes, both 1709 and 1909 have the same microcode but here's where things get interesting. Microsoft has had to repeatedly change core kernel functionality to work around these security vulnerabilities in Intel chips. Version 1909 has more of these workarounds than 1709 so of course you're going to have a loss in performance. Put the blame where the blame is due, in Intel's lap where it belongs; they effectively sold us a defective product. Yeah, their chips still work but at what cost? A performance loss that we're now starting to see more of because their overlapping each other.

 

[j0taDasFestasPT]

Ok thanks for your answers have a nice day

 

[Arjai]

Aren't they removing control panel with this update too? Hard pass. Going to turn on Shut Up Ten to stop all updates.

Source?

 

[windwhirl]

Source?

Already explained before...

Nope. Still there.
View attachment 151008

The control panel rumor is explained here...

Control Panel isn’t dead yet—but the System applet is looking nervous

It’s as if millions of sysadmins cried out and suddenly breathed a sigh of relief.

arstechnica.com

My two cents: It's unlikely that Control Panel will go away completely without making the Settings app reach feature parity first. And that means moving A LOT of things. I don't think we will see that happening in the next two years, unless Microsoft are really that crazy about it, and to be frank I don't think they are.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

I'm not afraid of the cloud. I'm also in the driverseat as to when I choose to trust it.



That said, it is probably beta quality.

key words here when looking at m$'s updates, never know when they will botch an update and accidentally brick a system.

m$ does not have the best QA team, I'm betting this update will have some sort of fail as a bonus feature.

 

[Splinterdog]

Aren't they removing control panel with this update too? Hard pass. Going to turn on Shut Up Ten to stop all updates.

I certainly hope not as that would be yet more dumbing down.

 

[ARF]

I really don't understand the point of a subscription-based OPERATING SYSTEM like why the hell is Microsoft even implementing that? That is so backwards and so stupid...

Because Bill Gates wants to control us all even more tight.

They want full control as if we are living in a zoo, and yet there are rumours and fears from some users that the Control Panel might be gone.

 

[notb]

Because Bill Gates wants to control us all even more tight.

Gates hasn't been an MS employee for quite some time and last month he quit the supervisory board as well.

But at least we have another name on your hate list.

 

[trparky]

More illogical drivel from those people who don't know what they're talking about. From @ARF that is.

 

[ARF]

He didn't quit, he was removed from the board. Some people feel terrible to deal with the facts/truth. Which they don't even bother to check.

 

[notb]

He didn't quit, he was removed from the board. Some people feel terrible to deal with the facts/truth. Which they don't even bother to check.

Bill Gates Stepping Down From Microsoft’s Board (Published 2020)

Mr. Gates, who founded the company with Paul Allen four decades ago, will also step down from the board of Berkshire Hathaway.

www.nytimes.com

Microsoft announces change to its board of directors - Stories

REDMOND, Wash. — March 13, 2020 — Microsoft Corp. today announced that Co-Founder and Technology Advisor Bill Gates stepped down from the company’s Board of Directors to dedicate more time to his philanthropic priorities including global health, development, education, and his increasing...

news.microsoft.com

But of course it's all lies, right? Only you know the truth.

 

[R-T-B]

He didn't quit, he was removed from the board. Some people feel terrible to deal with the facts/truth. Which they don't even bother to check.

You may want to try reading them some time.

 

[ARF]

Windows 10 2020 H1 (2004):

Features for gamers:

- DirectX 12 Ultimate
- DXR Ray tracing 1.1
- Shader Model 6.5
- Mesh Shaders
- Sampler Feedback: Texture Streaming
- Hardware-accelerated GPU scheduling

Features for developers:

- WSL2 full support of Linux kernel as optional feature (windows run any Linux apps)
- integration of Linux file system with file explorer


What is hardware-accelerated GPU scheduling ?

 

[notb]

What is hardware-accelerated GPU scheduling ?

Windows 10's next update to improve video playback performance

Microsoft has already wrapped up development on Windows 10 20H1, also known as version 2004 and the update could arrive as early as April. Unlike Windows 10’s minor November 2019 Update release, Windows 10 version 2004 will finally give Windows users something new to try. In Windows 10 version...

www.windowslatest.com

 

[Octopuss]

"Windows 10’s Hardware-accelerated GPU scheduling feature allows video card such as Intel UHD Graphics 620 and Nvidia GeForce 1060 to directly manage its video memory."
That doesn't explain much to regular people

 

[ARF]

"Windows 10’s Hardware-accelerated GPU scheduling feature allows video card such as Intel UHD Graphics 620 and Nvidia GeForce 1060 to directly manage its video memory."
That doesn't explain much to regular people

I thought now the Windows scheduler will assign more processes for execution by the GPU.