ASUS Leaks PRIME Z490-P and Z490-A Motherboards for Intel's 10th Gen

[oxrufiioxo]

Agree 100%.

One thing we don't need to speculate on is the beefed up VRMs on new Asus Z490 motherboards

Another leak.

Asus TUF Z490 Plus WiFi

Cut outs like the older Apex boards, looks nice. 16VRM chokes? On a TUF board?

That means the Maximus 12 Apex is gonna be so beyond AMAZING, hoping Asus moves it way up the product stack above the Extreme board, and throws in a kitchen sink load of cool features, and returns the Apex series to EATX form factor.

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Looks like 16 power stages... I wonder how Asus will split that up the X570 Tuf only has 14 but the vcore portion is split into a 4 phase x 3 power stage configuration. I wonder if this will be the same configuration as the Hero 8 but with 50 amp power stages so a 7+1 configuration with 2 power stages per phase.

Either way it will blow most their Z390 boards away especially the hero/code/formula.


Should be fun to see vrm thermal comparison with the new ten core between the different board makers.

 

[efikkan]

Cut outs like the older Apex boards, looks nice. 16VRM chokes? On a TUF board?

That means the Maximus 12 Apex is gonna be so beyond AMAZING, hoping Asus moves it way up the product stack above the Extreme board, and throws in a kitchen sink load of cool features, and returns the Apex series to EATX form factor.

The burst power draw is going to be substantial…

Too bad the heat sinks are still mostly metal blobs instead of proper fins.

If it were up to me, they should make a no nonsense affordable SSI-EEB motherboard without any RGB-sh*t, Wifi, etc., just loads of expansion, good cooling and a spacious layout.

 

[TheLostSwede]

ASUS also leaks TUF GAMING Z490-PLUS motherboard - VideoCardz.com

ASUS accidentally leaks its TUF Z490 motherboard as well. ASUS TUF Z490-PLUS Yet another Z490 motherboard has been leaked by ASUS, as spotted by momomo_us. On the TUF B365 product page, ASUS actually shows the description for B460-PRO while the picture and chipset logo are from TUF Z490-PLUS...

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[Octopuss]

What the hell is up with that PS/2 connector? For real?

 

[windwhirl]

What the hell is up with that PS/2 connector? For real?

Why? You wanted two?

 

[Nater]

What the hell is up with that PS/2 connector? For real?

I've read that corporate IT likes to completely disable USB-ports for security reasons. That way no users are throwing in USB-sticks and moving data. The Asus Prime line is typically geared towards buisness/workstation use.

I agree though. Seems a waste of space. I'd rather have more USB, more of anything else. There's always that one guy still clinging to his mechanical keyboard from 1987 though.

 

[Caring1]

I've read that corporate IT likes to completely disable USB-ports for security reasons. That way no users are throwing in USB-sticks and moving data. The Asus Prime line is typically geared towards buisness/workstation use.

Off topic and only a thought really, but would a PS/2 to USB adapter allow data transfer for a USB stick, or do they only work for Keyboard or Mouse?

 

[S4BRE]

Off topic and only a thought really, but would a PS/2 to USB adapter allow data transfer for a USB stick, or do they only work for Keyboard or Mouse?

A PS/2 to USB adapter is only for adapting compatible keyboard and mice. No data transfer like files or anything like that.

 

[windwhirl]

Seems a waste of space. I'd rather have more USB, more of anything else.

How much space does a PS/2 port takes?

And that aside, this is a budget product. It will be a bit barebones..

Off topic and only a thought really, but would a PS/2 to USB adapter allow data transfer for a USB stick, or do they only work for Keyboard or Mouse?

That seems unlikely, since USB devices have defined class codes in their descriptors.

https://www.usb.org/defined-class-codes

 

[brian_i6]

I've read that corporate IT likes to completely disable USB-ports for security reasons. That way no users are throwing in USB-sticks and moving data. The Asus Prime line is typically geared towards buisness/workstation use.

For this requirements ASUS can prepare custom BIOS with this functionality. For example, it's may be per-port USB control (on/off). But it's not always possible to implement read/write/load blocking for each USB port. And PS/2 will be problem solution if all USB ports are disabled.

 

[efikkan]

What the hell is up with that PS/2 connector? For real?

PS/2 still offers the lowest latency and so far the only alternative supporting N-key rollover across all operating systems.

 

[Octopuss]

Snake oil.

 

[Caring1]

Snake oil.

For those that like to oil their snake

 

[efikkan]

Snake oil.

Very convincing and insightful argumentation

USB is just a bus, which can be used for many protocols, including USB HID, which is the default for input devices. Standard USB HID is limited to 6-key rollover, and may have latencies up to 10ms if I remember the spec sheet correctly. Some gaming keyboards have additional protocols which may support N-key rollover and faster polling rates, but these requires drivers in order to work. E.g. CM Masterkeys runs N-key rollover fine in Windows, but was limited 6-key rollover in Ubuntu last time I tried. I haven't found an universal solution to this problem yet. But if you know specific keyboards which are confirmed to be fully supported across platforms, let me know.

 

[Octopuss]

I bet you're the guy who disables Vsync and claims he can see the difference between 220 and 240Hz in CS:GO.

 

[Prima.Vera]

only 1 slot for nvme? also TB port is enabled or those are just the welding pins??

 

[TheLostSwede]

only 1 slot for nvme? also TB port is enabled or those are just the welding pins??

There's space for two NVMe drives, the second one is under the onboard heatsink...
The TB header is for connecting what I seem to remember is an SPI cable from the PCIe based Thunderbolt add-in card Asus makes. You still need an external DP input as well, at least if you want the display signal over TB.

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[E-curbi]

Not sure if anyone's noticed, but there looks to be VRM's on 3 sides now, around the socket on the Z490-A....

That's stupendous.

I noticed. lol good one bro.

Three Sides LIve

So maybe Asus is running out of topological real estate for power stages and they will use the north bridge/Apex nameplate area for the new Maximus XII Apex 2-dimm superboard, and fill it up with sweet VRM goodness. To run the 10-core K-suffix CML beast processor.

LGA1200 socket surrounded on three sides by power stages. Woooooo

Ok, I speculate way too much, just go ahead and say it.

 

[hojnikb]

Unless they changed something electrically/pin wise, you'd just cut those plastic pins, flash an updated firmware and run 1151v2 cpu in a 1200 board (and probably wise versa)

 

[TheLostSwede]

Unless they changed something electrically/pin wise, you'd just cut those plastic pins, flash an updated firmware and run 1151v2 cpu in a 1200 board (and probably wise versa)

Sorry, what? There are an extra 49 pins and Intel has most likely changed quite a few of the pins, especially the ones relating to power, so no, that's a really, really dumb idea and I hope it was a joke.

 

[windwhirl]

Unless they changed something electrically/pin wise, you'd just cut those plastic pins, flash an updated firmware and run 1151v2 cpu in a 1200 board (and probably wise versa)

This isn't the first time I heard read that here regarding LGA1200. Care to elaborate why you think that'd be possible even if pin arrangement were to be nearly the same?

 

[E-curbi]

This isn't the first time I heard read that here regarding LGA1200. Care to elaborate why you think that'd be possible even if pin arrangement were to be nearly the same?

Requesting elaboration of a statement that could damage valuable components - is like watching a lengthy tutorial of just how they made a bad movie, so bad. Yikes.

 

[windwhirl]

Requesting elaboration of a statement that could damage valuable components - is like watching a lengthy tutorial of just how they made a bad movie, so bad. Yikes.

Yeah, well, I read someone saying that a while ago and didn't even bother asking, since I thought they were just confused. Now, the idea of mixing sockets and CPUs with different pin counts resurfaces, again talking about LGA 1200 and 1151, and I want to know why, because it feels like some sort of fake news is spreading around.

 

[E-curbi]

Yeah, well, I read someone saying that a while ago and didn't even bother asking, since I thought they were just confused. Now, the idea of mixing sockets and CPUs with different pin counts resurfaces, again talking about LGA 1200 and 1151, and I want to know why, because it feels like some sort of fake news is spreading around.

I don't believe the two sockets will be compatible, many more changes unlike 1151 vs 1151v2.

MSI Z490 Godlike photos just (leaked) showed up. Also, an early and most likely arbitrary price list - just covered in salt. lol

Here it is, for what it's worth. lol

 

[windwhirl]

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I don't believe the two sockets will be compatible, many more changes unlike 1151 vs 1151v2.

MSI Z490 Godlike photos just (leaked) showed up. Also, an early and most likely arbitrary price list - just covered in salt. lol

Here it is, for what it's worth. lol

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Yeah, already adding pins should be a sign that there will be no way to make them compatible...

€960? The only godlike thing about it is probably the price lol