AMD Confirms Zen 3 and RDNA2 by Late-2020

btarunr · Apr 29, 2020

AMD in its post Q1-2020 earnings release disclosures stated that the company is "on track" to launching its next-generation "Zen 3" CPU microarchitecture and RDNA2 graphics architecture in late-2020. The company did not reveal in what shape or form the two will debut. AMD is readying "Zen 3" based EPYC "Milan" enterprise processors, "Vermeer" Ryzen desktop processors, and "Cezanne" Ryzen mobile APUs based on "Zen 3," although there's no word on which product line the microarchitecture will debut with. "Zen 3" compute dies (CCDs) are expected to do away with the quad-core compute complex (CCX) arrangement of cores, and are expected to be built on a refined 7 nm-class silicon fabrication process, either TSMC N7P or N7+.

The only confirmed RDNA2 based products we have as of now are the semi-custom SoCs that drive the Sony PlayStation 5 and Microsoft Xbox Series X next-generation consoles, which are expected to debut by late-2020. The AMD tweet, however, specifies "GPUs" (possibly referring to discrete GPUs). Also, with AMD forking its graphics IP to RDNA (for graphics processors) and CDNA (for headless compute accelerators), we're fairly sure AMD is referring to a Radeon RX or Radeon Pro launch in the tweet. Microsoft's announcement of the DirectX 12 Ultimate logo is expected to expedite launch of Radeon RX discrete GPUs based on RDNA2, as the current RDNA architecture doesn't meet the logo requirements.

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dicktracy · Apr 29, 2020

Zen 3 might be my next upgrade. RDNA2? Just buy Ampere...

TheoneandonlyMrK · Apr 29, 2020

dicktracy said:
Zen 3 might be my next upgrade. RDNA2? Just buy Ampere...

Why do you have a server

, I'm waiting on rDNA 2 it's reply will be nine months later max three minimum Imho.

Sunny and 75 · Apr 29, 2020

Can't wait to see 8C16T 4600X ^_^

Cranky5150 · Apr 29, 2020

Tik Tok Tik Tok....we will see wont we..?

evernessince · Apr 29, 2020

dicktracy said:
Zen 3 might be my next upgrade. RDNA2? Just buy Ampere...

Ampere isn't Nvidia's consumer product...

JAB Creations · Apr 29, 2020

I'm looking forward to upgrading my 290X.

dicktracy said:
Zen 3 might be my next upgrade. RDNA2? Just buy Ampere...

Not the first time I've seen a thoughtless comment from this user and as usual a "FIRST!" mentality.

Lionheart · Apr 29, 2020

dicktracy said:
Zen 3 might be my next upgrade. RDNA2? Just buy Ampere...

Ahh no I'll think I'll buy what I like thanks & Ampere is server/AI focused.

Dazzm8 · Apr 29, 2020

Lionheart said:
Ahh no I'll think I'll buy what I like thanks & Ampere is server/AI focused.

Who said it's server/AI focused?

Just because the upcoming May 14th reveal of server/AI/Datacenter cards have obvious 'Ampere' focused hints, what's stopping the gaming side of things being the same?

They can both use the same code name but have different derivatives of that base architectures?

Lionheart · Apr 29, 2020

Dazzm8 said:
Who said it's server/AI focused?

Just because the upcoming May 14th reveal of server/AI/Datacenter cards have obvious 'Ampere' focused hints, what's stopping the gaming side of things being the same?

They can both use the same code name but have different derivatives of that base architectures?

Who said? The damn internet who else??? :kookoo:

If Nvidia show off their next gen GPU architecture that's gaming focused then awesome!!! But I'm not going to hype myself up for it.

spnidel · Apr 29, 2020

dicktracy said:
Zen 3 might be my next upgrade. RDNA2? Just buy Ampere...

reads like a shill post

Vayra86 · Apr 29, 2020

Lionheart said:
Who said? The damn internet who else???

If Nvidia show off their next gen GPU architecture that's gaming focused then awesome!!! But I'm not going to hype myself up for it.

No, that's just a random blurb like everything else

Nvidia Ampere graphics card release date, specs, and rumours

The rumours about Nvidia's next-gen GPUs are such salty ones we're developing coronary troubles...

www.pcgamesn.com

Realistically we don't really know, we just know next gen is on 7nm (or something like it) and it will have to improve on Turing. Which is really all you need to know. Nvidia isn't really surprising when it comes to GPU releases... ~30% bump across the stack, and if its more, a mark up on price to go with it.

Might sound boring, but it really is

ARF · Apr 29, 2020

September - October release.

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watzupken · Apr 29, 2020

Looking forward for AMD to bring more competition to the CPU and GPU space. I think they are doing a great job keeping both Intel and Nvidia in check, despite the 2 competitors being much bigger than them. Just like Intel before AMD launched Ryzen CPUs, Nvidia have been dominating in the GPU space. As a result, they are taking it easy on themselves with incremental updates to their product and charging you substantially more. I do look forward to see RDNA 2 changing this and giving consumers better value options.

Super XP · Apr 29, 2020

ZEN3 & RDNA2 will be a solid upgrade path for everyone.

ARF · Apr 29, 2020

Super XP said:
ZEN3 & RDNA2 will be a solid upgrade path for everyone.

Zen 3 in a monolithic APU for laptops, yes, but with chiplets - no. Navi 21 will be solid, yes.

Super XP · Apr 29, 2020

ARF said:
Zen 3 in a monolithic APU for laptops, yes, but with chiplets - no. Navi 21 will be solid, yes.

ZEN3 is a discrete CPU launching in late 2020 that will also have APU versions available.

xkm1948 · Apr 29, 2020

If my X99 can survive until next gen HEDT drops I might actually upgrade.

ARF · Apr 29, 2020

Super XP said:
ZEN3 is a discrete CPU launching in late 2020 that will also have APU versions available.

I didn't know there are discrete and integrated CPU available. Zen 3 is supposed to launch later in 2020, September or October, not late in 2020, which would mean towards New Year Eve.

APUs are a different branch and if you follow Ryzen 9 4900HS, you will see how much more efficient and better it is than the desktop versions.

Turmania · Apr 29, 2020

The only thing i can criticize AMD for was their never ending driver and bios issues and updates. But they seem to have fixed that. They are no nore the underdogs in cpu in fact Intel became the underdogs. GPU is different, I think they are behind at least 1 generation. They are catching up but Nvdia did not play their die shrink card yet. But AMD is on right direction it seems.

ARF · Apr 29, 2020

Turmania said:
The only thing i can criticize AMD for was their never ending driver and bios issues and updates. But they seem to have fixed that. They are no nore the underdogs in cpu in fact Intel became the underdogs. GPU is different, I think they are behind at least 1 generation. They are catching up but Nvdia did not play their die shrink card yet. But AMD is on right direction it seems.

What about software? Many developers don't work with AMD's products - CUDA for instance? Adobe, MatLAB and numerous more.

Super XP · Apr 29, 2020

Turmania said:
The only thing i can criticize AMD for was their never ending driver and bios issues and updates. But they seem to have fixed that. They are no nore the underdogs in cpu in fact Intel became the underdogs. GPU is different, I think they are behind at least 1 generation. They are catching up but Nvdia did not play their die shrink card yet. But AMD is on right direction it seems.

What do you mean AMD is no longer the underdogs in the CPU industry? AMD is the underdog and will remain the underdogs until they can capture more market share over Intel.
Despite AMD's Technologically superior CPU designs versus Intel, they don't hold the majority of market share. Even though Intel fell flat on its face, they remain the leader, die to past market share they've gained throughout AMDs lacking Bulldozer CPU era.

ARF said:
I didn't know there are discrete and integrated CPU available. Zen 3 is supposed to launch later in 2020, September or October, not late in 2020, which would mean towards New Year Eve.

APUs are a different branch and if you follow Ryzen 9 4900HS, you will see how much more efficient and better it is than the desktop versions.

AMDs mobile parts better be more efficient, can't compare desktop CPUs with mobile parts. They are both different animals. Not to mention, ZEN2 mobile just got released, that gave AMD ample more time to enhance ZEN2 versus the desktop models.

Vayra86 · Apr 29, 2020

Super XP said:
AMDs mobile parts better be more efficient

OK. There is little reason to believe Ryzen can't scale as well at every TDP budget as the upcoming Intels. It'll just clock lower, but remain efficient, and probably has more performance headroom given Intel's trouble with clocking 10nm high. I also think AMD will have the edge when it comes to binning, they can easily bin parts for mobile chips due to their design, Intel is getting more and more diversified and specialized per architecture. They have half a dozen core designs by now... So even IF AMD loses the efficiency battle on equal-core count chips, they will just offer more cores for the money and regain the crown.

So far there are no signs Intel is radically throwing things around to make a dent. In fact with all these designs I get the impression they dig themselves an even deeper hole, hoping to weather the storm until they have volume production on a better node.

I mean, this here below, is just armageddon.

AMD Ryzen 9 4900HS Torpedoes Intel's Core i9 Mobile Lineup, Fastest Mobile Processor

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coozie78 · Apr 29, 2020

ARF said:
What about software? Many developers don't work with AMD's products - CUDA for instance? Adobe, MatLAB and numerous more.

Perhaps it's time for the developers to catch up and stop coding exclusively for outdated Intel parts?
And CUDA isn't the only GPU acceleration available, what about AMDs' Direct Compute? Is it really THAT inferior to CUDA? < Question, I'm not sure, please enlighten me here.

Keviny Oliveira · Apr 30, 2020

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