Epic Games Gives Mesmerizing Look at Unreal Engine 5 Running Real Time on PlayStation 5

[Vayra86]

That is down to the developers what they prioritize, hardware wise, these machines have no reason to be skimping.

No? There are still shared resources, limited power budget, and a custom chip built around cost efficiency before performance. In a well balanced package, but let's not start acting like we are getting copies of full fat discrete GPUs because that is not what AMD is cooking for them. This counts for both GPU and CPU. You get a gaming optimized chip, not the full fat one.

Come on man, you can't be this naive.

 

[lemonadesoda]

The SHORT video clips look amazing. The engine is very capable. But if objects are not described by geometry (thousands of points and triangles) but by macro-atom (tens of millions of points and pixels), then the memory requirements become ENORMOUS. Until we see a whole city scenario playthrough, without load-pause, and not these easy scene low memory requirement cave, corridor, or indoor room, then I reserve my judgement. I would imagine that game maps and objects would still be recorded as geometry in the original DVD or download, and then converted to macro-atom data at the start, just like “load map” delay of yesteryear. Only this time we are going to need SSD, multiprocessor, and massive amounts of memory, just to crunch the geometry data into the atomic data.

 

[Rahnak]

Consoles and PCs do compete, its just a very weird symbiotic relationship really. Maybe its like marriage. They need each other, but they can't stand each other.

I do agree on the symbiotic, especially now that they're using parts that are very similar to what you have on the PC side, but I still don't see them as competing, especially as their feature set is so different. I see them as a value oriented gaming devices for people that don't want or can't spend much or just want a simpler, plug and play experience and don't care for the benefits of gaming on a pc. Or as a side gaming device, which is what I personally do (currently have a PS4 and a 3DS).

Even with the video being what it is you can clearly see frame rate stutters and stutters to below 30fps.

Can you give me an example timestamp?

 

[londiste]

Can you give me an example timestamp?

Around 3:00 and 4:40 seems to be visible.

 

[ARF]

This is an early version, they have months to optimise the software to run it smoothly.

 

[Decryptor009]

No? There are still shared resources, limited power budget, and a custom chip built around cost efficiency before performance. In a well balanced package, but let's not start acting like we are getting copies of full fat discrete GPUs because that is not what AMD is cooking for them. This counts for both GPU and CPU. You get a gaming optimized chip, not the full fat one.

Come on man, you can't be this naive.

Have you even seen the GPU specs? Yet another who failed to read them up?

 

[Rahnak]

Around 3:00 and 4:40 seems to be visible.

Thanks! I see something at 4:48 but seems more like uneven/bad camera movement than a stutter. I wish they'd release the same thing but at 60fps so I could watch them side by side.

 

[londiste]

This is an early version, they have months to optimise the software to run it smoothly.

Version is kind of a misnomer for Unreal Engine. It is an evolving engine with constant improvements, replacements and optimizations. Versioning is a marketing thing. As they said themselves in the video, almost all of what they show is already there in now-released UE 4.25.

Ship of Theseus could be an apt analogy

Thanks! I see something at 4:48 but seems more like uneven/bad camera movement than a stutter. I wish they'd release the same thing but at 60fps so I could watch them side by side.

I have my suspicions about some of the transition or effect choices that seem to hide things. But this is a tech demo and extremely smooth one at that, so its all good. I don't mean to take anything away from the demo, it indeed looks very impressive.

 

[ValenOne]

Go back to gamespot. Clearly have reading deficiencies.

Your argument is false. peasant. Reminder: I joined TPU before you.

Have you even seen the GPU specs? Yet another who failed to read them up?

PS5 has AMD's Smartshift peasant. You go back to Gamespot.

 

[Decryptor009]

Your argument is false. peasant. Reminder: I joined TPU before you.


PS5 has AMD's Smartshift peasant. You go back to Gamespot.

No you clearly have reading problems, this is why you should go back to Gamespot where you can make up things as counter arguments like you are here.

Your argument is false. peasant. Reminder: I joined TPU before you.


PS5 has AMD's Smartshift peasant. You go back to Gamespot.

And you know nothing of how it works Ron, Just like you never show any understanding of it on Gamespot, you just repeat words to sound like you know anything.

XBX has a much faster GPU core than anything out on the market by AMD, it is a slightly cut down full RDNA2 part also.

 

[ValenOne]

Decryptor is a console defender from Gamespot forum.

No you clearly have reading problems, this is why you should go back to Gamespot where you can make up things as counter arguments like you are here.

You're a peasant.
Your argument is patently false. hypocrite.

 

[Decryptor009]

Decryptor is a console defender from Gamespot forum.

You're a peasant.
Your argument is patently false.

This is not system wars Ron, it is just stating that these consoles are up there with PC, the hardware spec is of a much better and much more potent ability than PS4 or XBOX One was in retrospect to the hardware availible on PC.

But because people like to throw around 0.001% usage components as a counter-argument i call them out on how stupid they sound when literally no one buys them.
Ryzen 3000 Threadripper for gaming? get real.

2080Ti.. again a card that is very fast, great card, but for the cost.. no one is really going to buy it save for the top tier elitists who need that performance and have the money to go with it, the every day consumer will be eating up equivelent spec to these consoles.

Now back to you Ron, with your need to insult without using your brain.

 

[Vayra86]

Have you even seen the GPU specs? Yet another who failed to read them up?

Yes, so? It does not change a thing. PS3 was one of the first consumer octa cores and bluray players... Ps2 was early adopting a dvd drive. Its not relevant; the hardware is fixed and not scalable over time and will be relegated to midrange before you know it.

 

[Decryptor009]

Yes, so? It does not change a thing.

What is so hard to accept that these consoles are up there with PC spec wise?

Is it really this hard?

My god.


Stating what i already stated, does not factor in that these are far easier to code for, plus i said they are up there with PC, not beating, not entirely matching but up there.

Said something positive about console = i am wrong, uses bullshit as counter arguments, people in here are so up their own ass they can't see straight.

Can't understand how the market works, who the common denominator is who buys which hardware, what sells more and how that is a more representative fact of the general PC user base rather than some top of the line way out of proportion gaming card which you need to sell 2 legs to afford.

 

[Vayra86]

This is not system wars Ron, it is just stating that these consoles are up there with PC, the hardware spec is of a much better and much more potent ability than PS4 or XBOX One was in retrospect to the hardware availible on PC.

But because people like to throw around 0.001% usage components as a counter-argument i call them out on how stupid they sound when literally no one buys them.
Ryzen 3000 Threadripper for gaming? get real.

2080Ti.. again a card that is very fast, great card, but for the cost.. no one is really going to buy it save for the top tier elitists who need that performance and have the money to go with it, the every day consumer will be eating up equivelent spec to these consoles.

Now back to you Ron, with your need to insult without using your brain.

The only person harping on about 2080tis and 0001% is you mate.

As for the rest. The tinted glasses are also clearly on your nose here...I dont think anyone is saying this gen will suck? It looks promising, but it is also just more of the same; another console with finite lifespan, walled garden and obsolete compared to PC in a couple of years. In the early console years however you rarely do get the best each gen has on offer.

So the perf might be there, but will the games be? PS4 and earlier confirmed the opposite many times.

Back to you Ron...

 

[Decryptor009]

The only person harping on about 2080tis and 0001% is you mate.

Yes because it needs to be stated when we have low intellect fan girls to hardware people buy.

The only person harping on about 2080tis and 0001% is you mate.

As for the rest. The tinted glasses are also clearly on your nose here...I dont think anyone is saying this gen will suck? It looks promising, but it is also just more of the same; another console with finite lifespan, walled garden and obsolete compared to PC in a couple of years. In the early console years however you rarely do get the best each gen has on offer.

So the perf might be there, but will the games be? PS4 and earlier confirmed the opposite many times.

Back to you Ron...

First page has plenty of ignorance on it, why are you so heavily wanting to argue with me if you are on my side? i don't like pretenders and manipulators.

 

[Vayra86]

Yes because it needs to be stated when we have low intellect fan girls to hardware people buy.

You are now one post away from my very special console peasant ignore corner. You can fight your battle elsewhere.

 

[Decryptor009]

You are now one post away from my very special console peasant ignore corner. You can fight your battle elsewhere.

So i am a console peasant for saying the hardware is up there and putting out some facts for you?

Go figure.


Do you think i care what you think of me? your snotty little ego don't bother me.

 

[Vayra86]

So i am a console peasant for saying the hardware is up there and putting out some facts for you?

Go figure.

No, you are becoming a troll

Well done, sir. Ticket confirmed.

 

[Decryptor009]

No, you are becoming a troll

Challenge = troll.

So you give up but want to win even though you can't back up anything you say.

So passive - aggressive, you are a troll, off loads responsibility from you so you look better..

Whatever you wish for mate, good luck.

 

[medi01]

somewhere in a milky way, about a decade ago and ON PLAYSTATION 3, yeah, they are this shameless:

And Unreal 4 demo, or that matter:

LOL no, no they are not.

Well, yeah, PS5 and XSeX stomp over 98% and 99% of current PC market respectively.

 

[Makaveli]

And Unreal 4 demo, or that matter:

Well, yeah, PS5 and XSeX stomp over 98% and 99% of current PC market respectively.

Can't stomp on a market with a product you can't buy and won't be on the market for another 6 months.

And there will already be faster Cpu's and gpu's out when these consoles come out so kinda moot point.

 

[medi01]

And there will already be faster Cpu's and gpu's out when these consoles come out so kinda moot point.

We are talking about 2080 - 2080super level GPUs in PS5/XSeX.

Even if there is something for $250 that beats those (there won't be, not even remotely) that would barely change the landscape any time soon.

Next game consoles are quite different, Microsoft went crazy on specs in attempt to have revenge, Sony was expecting it.

 

[Fluffmeister]

Can't stomp on a market with a product you can't buy and won't be on the market for another 6 months.

And there will already be faster Cpu's and gpu's out when these consoles come out so kinda moot point.

Be gentle with him, I can however confirm my future card stomps over everything.

 

[Makaveli]

We are talking about 2080 - 2080super level GPUs in PS5/XSeX.

Even if there is something for $250 that beats those (there won't be, not even remotely) that would barely change the landscape any time soon.

Next game consoles are quite different, Microsoft went crazy on specs in attempt to have revenge, Sony was expecting it.

That doesn't make my statement incorrect.