ALLOFMP3.COM No Punishment

DaMulta · Aug 15, 2007

Denis Kvasov has just manged to get off with no charges for his wildly known site ALLOFMP3.com. The site has been shut down by Russia, because of the conditions set by the World Trade Organization. For that reason Denis Kvasov had to face Russia's court, and face all sorts of fines and jail time for breaking copyright laws. In the end it seems that he lucked out with weak, and poorly written copyright laws in the country. The charges simply could not be held against him, and he has been let go without any kind of punishment held against him.

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russianboy · Aug 15, 2007

in russia, people don't understand the concept of paying for something that doesn't exist.

erocker · Aug 15, 2007

Yarrrr! Mark that one up for the swabs!!! Yar har har har har!

mdm-adph · Aug 15, 2007

I still don't see what this guy was doing wrong, and nobody has been able to explain it to me.

DaMulta · Aug 15, 2007

mdm-adph said:
I still don't see what this guy was doing wrong, and nobody has been able to explain it to me.

He just sold digital copies of music that he never paid for. More or less he bought a CD copied it millions of times and made a ton of cash selling it for pure profit.

WarEagleAU · Aug 15, 2007

Even more momentum for increased piracy.

mdm-adph · Aug 15, 2007

DaMulta said:
He just sold digital copies of music that he never paid for. More or less he bought a CD copied it millions of times and made a ton of cash selling it for pure profit.

And what of his claim that he did no wrong according to the laws of his country?

pt · Aug 15, 2007

russianboy said:
in russia, people don't understand the concept of paying for something that doesn't exist.

how's the wheater in the motherland?

Dippyskoodlez · Aug 15, 2007

DaMulta said:
He just sold digital copies of music that he never paid for. More or less he bought a CD copied it millions of times and made a ton of cash selling it for pure profit.

People are in an uproar because its illegal in the US.

He did it in russia.

He faces no charges because its not illegal when and where it was done.

why is this so confusing? :laugh:

The US thinks they can police the world by making a law.

The (people) that believe such are idiots.

niko084 · Aug 15, 2007

mdm-adph said:
And what of his claim that he did no wrong according to the laws of his country?

Thats even legal in the united states actually. You can legally copy "backup copies" and sell them to anyone as "backup copies" and you have to quote that because at the point you are now selling a "service" versus a licensed product", don't send a cd key to software mind you. Under the rules that if you use it yourself you have to legally own it. What people do with their "backup copies" is up to them, and you cannot be held liable for it.

Now if they sold the copies as licensed regular copies well now they are in federal court getting pwnd by the multi billion dollar companies.

Dippyskoodlez · Aug 15, 2007

niko084 said:
Thats even legal in the united states actually. You can legally copy "backup copies" and sell them to anyone as "backup copies". Under the rules that if you use it you do legally own it.

Thats different.

his claim is perfectly legit, theres no law.. out law'ing it.. where he was :roll:

russianboy · Aug 15, 2007

which is why everyone is gonna move to russia soon

$2 for windows XP= major e-penis enlargement

pt · Aug 15, 2007

russianboy said:
which is why everyone is gonna move to russia soon

$2 for windows XP= major e-penis enlargement

2$ in russia???
i can get it for free, forget about moving to the "motherland"

zekrahminator · Aug 15, 2007

Dippyskoodlez said:
People are in an uproar because its illegal in the US.

He did it in russia.

He faces no charges because its not illegal when and where it was done.

why is this so confusing?

The US thinks they can police the world by making a law.

The (people) that believe such are idiots.

I love how you live in the country you're bashing

.

Kreij · Aug 15, 2007

niko084 said:
Thats even legal in the united states actually. You can legally copy "backup copies" and sell them to anyone as "backup copies" and you have to quote that because at the point you are now selling a "service" versus a licensed product", don't send a cd key to software mind you. Under the rules that if you use it yourself you have to legally own it. What people do with their "backup copies" is up to them, and you cannot be held liable for it.

You can only sell "backup copy services" if the person you are selling the copy to supplied you with the original. You could then return the orginal to them along with the backup and charge for the service of copying

You cannot buy a CD, make a backup copy and sell it to someone else as a "backup copy" while retaining the orginal.
That too, will get you pwned in court.

pt · Aug 15, 2007

zekrahminator said:
I love how you live in the country you're bashing .

it's not bashing
it's the truth :nutkick:

Dippyskoodlez · Aug 15, 2007

zekrahminator said:
I love how you live in the country you're bashing .

I DEFEND the country I'm bashing.

I'm allowed.

Misiowiec · Aug 16, 2007

Dippyskoodlez said:
People are in an uproar because its illegal in the US.

He did it in russia.

He faces no charges because its not illegal when and where it was done.

why is this so confusing?

The US thinks they can police the world by making a law.

The (people) that believe such are idiots.

Wise words.

niko084 · Aug 16, 2007

Dippyskoodlez said:
Thats different.

his claim is perfectly legit, theres no law.. out law'ing it.. where he was

Ohh wow... Ya there are some countries that don't enforce or even have laws like that too....

niko084 · Aug 16, 2007

zekrahminator said:
I love how you live in the country you're bashing .

Eh, so do I.... Honestly I just hope not for too much longer.... Figuring 3 more years, and I'm out.

Jess Stingray · Aug 16, 2007

Where you going to go? :confused:

DRDNA · Aug 16, 2007

Dippyskoodlez said:
People are in an uproar because its illegal in the US.

He did it in russia.

He faces no charges because its not illegal when and where it was done.

why is this so confusing?

The US thinks they can police the world by making a law.

The (people) that believe such are idiots.

STATED perfectly

niko084 · Aug 16, 2007

Kreij said:
You can only sell "backup copy services" if the person you are selling the copy to supplied you with the original. You could then return the orginal to them along with the backup and charge for the service of copying

You cannot buy a CD, make a backup copy and sell it to someone else as a "backup copy" while retaining the orginal.
That too, will get you pwned in court.

Not true. You can create as many backups of a cd/dvd you own as you please and sell them. It's not illegal to posses a copy of data which you do not own the rights to its illegal to use it.

There was a few cases about it when ebay first got really going good and strong because of ebay sellers selling copies of disks as "backup copies", I believe since then ebay has banned burned cds just because they can, but people still sell "Windows 2000Pro" disk, with "No Key" as a "backup disk". With microsoft products its the little card that has the key on it that counts too not the possession of the cd itself.

It is perfectly legal, to keep away from trouble you just add the line in your disclaimer "By purchasing this copy you legally own a copy of this software blah blah blah blah" As a service provider, its not your responsibility to check if people legally own a piece of software, besides what are you going to ask for proof their cd key?!?

niko084 · Aug 16, 2007

Ben Clarke said:
Where you going to go?

I have been considering Denmark, but have not made up my mind yet.. I'm waiting to finish out school and then the next few years of putting money together.

SupperAssBASS · Aug 17, 2007

Yup, there is no piratery in the law in my country...

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