No Intel "Rocket Lake-S" or "Ice Lake-X" This Year?

btarunr · Jun 4, 2020

A roadmap slide from an Intel Partner Connect presentation suggests that the company's client-segment processor lineup will be unchanged for the rest of 2020, with the company briskly launching its 10th generation "Comet Lake-S" desktop processor lineup through May-June, and "Comet Lake-H" a month prior. The Core X "Cascade Lake-X" processor lineup will continue to lead the company in the high core-count HEDT segment, with no indications of new models, at least none higher than 18 cores.

More importantly, this slide dulls expectations of the company refreshing its desktop process segment just before Holiday 2020 with the 11th generation "Rocket Lake-S" silicon that has next-gen "Willow Cove" CPU cores, Gen12 Xe integrated graphics, and PCIe gen 4.0 connectivity, especially with engineering samples of the chips already hitting the radar. Intel is expected to launch 10 nm "Ice Lake-SP" Xeon enterprise processors in 2020, and there was hope for some of this IP to power Intel's next HEDT platform, the fabled "Ice Lake-X," especially with AMD's "Castle Peak" 3rd gen Threadrippers dominating this segment. While there's little doubt that the slide may have originated from Intel, its context must be studied. Partner Connect is a platform for Intel to interact with its channel partners (distributors, retailers, system integrators, etc), and information about future products is far more restricted on these slides, than presentations intended for large OEMs, motherboard manufacturers, etc. Then again, with the COVID-19 pandemic throwing supply chains off rails, it wouldn't surprise us if this slide spells Gospel.

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ratirt · Jun 4, 2020

No shock here with the no new Intel CPU release in 2020. You can't release new CPU twice a year with mere improvements. Maybe it is a good thing that Intel will wait reevaluate the processors arch, tiers and strategy.

R0H1T · Jun 4, 2020

Cute, on the one hand you have a 3d mark leak & the other no (desktop) Lakes this year rumor! I wonder if Intel has a ~~dedicated~~ team designated for leaks

If not, they should definitely pay them!

ratirt · Jun 4, 2020

R0H1T said:
Cute, on the one hand you have a 3d mark leak & the other no (desktop) Lakes this year rumor! I wonder if Intel has a ~~dedicated~~ team designated for leaks

I'd be surprised if Intel didn't have one

LiveOrDie · Jun 4, 2020

Thats crummy I wanted me a 10990XE or something similar.

ZoneDymo · Jun 4, 2020

Live OR Die said:
Thats crummy I wanted me a 10990XE or something similar.

Get a threadripper, you'd be better off anyway

LiveOrDie · Jun 4, 2020

ZoneDymo said:
Get a threadripper, you'd be better off anyway

I only buy quality something AMD has never been known for.

watzupken · Jun 4, 2020

Live OR Die said:
I only buy quality something AMD has never been known for.

Is this based on your perception or based on your actual experience?

Melvis · Jun 4, 2020

Live OR Die said:
I only buy quality something AMD has never been known for.

My 939 System would like to have a word!

Vayra86 · Jun 4, 2020

Live OR Die said:
I only buy quality something AMD has never been known for.

Strange glasses you got there sir

_Flare · Jun 4, 2020

For me every non-Z Build of Comet Lake seems useless vs. Zen2.
I only focus on the leading new releases, so for me it´s on AMD to push the industry.
Intel seemed to recover and rethink its strategy, but they cripple their non-Z like before.
The faster AMD iterates, the more it hurts intel. So give us Zen3 fast.

LiveOrDie · Jun 4, 2020

watzupken said:
Is this based on your perception or based on your actual experience?

Have a google mate Ram issues with amd ryzen CPUs, want me to find more issues its no trouble.

efikkan · Jun 4, 2020

I don't know when the final stepping of Rocket Lake-S will be arriving, but I would not be surprised if that happens in Q1 or Q2 2021.
Ice Lake-X is based on Ice Lake-SP, which should start shipping this summer. So technically Intel can launch Ice Lake-X whenever they want this fall or later. Ice Lake-X will be fairly low volume, so supply should not be an issue. The question is rather when Intel wants to launch it vs. what AMD have to offer.

ZoneDymo said:
Get a threadripper, you'd be better off anyway

That depends on the use case. Workstations are built for a purpose, and the only thing that matters is performance in benchmarks related to the desired workload. I wonder how many base their decision on Cinebench scores vs. how many actually uses Cinema4D, I would not be surprised if the factor is 1000:1 or more.

Live OR Die said:
I only buy quality something AMD has never been known for.

Considering your profile is listing an i9-7980XE, you should probably wait for something to offer a substantial performance improvement.

But I get what you're saying. While AMD have come a long way since the launch of Zen, they still have far to go.

1d10t · Jun 4, 2020

These image would be fit.
Their 10 core already relegated to peasant mainstream. AMD has 16 core in there, so their remnants was 18 core only. Only one single SKU doesn't look so great

LiveOrDie · Jun 4, 2020

1d10t said:
These image would be fit.
Their 10 core already relegated to peasant mainstream. AMD has 16 core in there, so their remnants was 18 core only. Only one single SKU doesn't look so great

Just because KFC has a chicken bucket doesn't mean its the best our there mate, don't forget your oily chicken on the way out.

techguymaxc · Jun 4, 2020

I gotta say, other than for gaming, it really doesn't make sense to buy an Intel CPU right now, and I say that as someone that owns a 9900k system for gaming, and a 7960x system that is a Plex server. Just recently built a 3950x system to take the video editing workload off of the media server and I am VERY happy with the results. Will definitely be buying AMD for my next build or system upgrade unless Intel gets their act together. then I'll have to make a decision on which product is best for my needs at the time.

ZoneDymo · Jun 4, 2020

Live OR Die said:
I only buy quality something AMD has never been known for.

lol ez bait

voltage · Jun 4, 2020

I am so bummed out... I have been waiting years for 11th gen. not sure if I will wait another year.

BorisDG · Jun 4, 2020

Anyway all of those new CPU are overkill for gaming. Who needs more at the moment?

efikkan · Jun 4, 2020

BorisDG said:
Anyway all of those new CPU are overkill for gaming. Who needs more at the moment?

Any fast Skylake-family 6-core (or even 4-core) is good enough for gaming for now.
But what if you want a PC which is kick-ass for gaming and for photo/video editing or coding?

BorisDG · Jun 4, 2020

efikkan said:
Any fast Skylake-family 6-core (or even 4-core) is good enough for gaming for now.
But what if you want a PC which is kick-ass for gaming and for photo/video editing or coding?

There are a lot out there. At this point releasing new CPU is "race" and "see me I'm better than you"

1d10t · Jun 5, 2020

Live OR Die said:
Just because KFC has a chicken bucket doesn't mean its the best our there mate, don't forget your oily chicken on the way out.

If everyone acknowledge it, have good selling point and build up brand awareness, isn't that just normal company would like to have?
Doesn't matter if you didn't like chicken bucket, there's still tons out there are willing to buy.Better than have to wait for same old burger with inflated asking price

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