JOLED Files Patent Infringement Lawsuit Against Samsung

Raevenlord · Jun 24, 2020

JOLED, a Japanese Display, Sony and Panasonic group, has recently filed patent infringement lawsuits against Samsung. The fillings against Samsung Electronics, Samsung Display, and Samsung Electronics' U.S. subsidiary, were filed with the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Texas on June 22. There's a concurrent filling against Samsung's German subsidiary running through the District Court of Mannheim in Germany as well. JOLED claims Samsung has been infringing on JOLED's intelectual property on OLED technology (on which the company holds around 4,000 patents) particularly in Samsung Galaxy handsets that have been sold in the US.

We covered JOLED's entrance in to the OLED market back in December 2018. At the time, the company was entering the small-display market with 21.6" offerings. Meanwhile, the company received a 20 billion yen (around $187 million) cash injection from CSOT, a Chinese display company owned by TCL Corporation. This allowed to company to scale its OLED manufacturing for large display panels; the company announced mass production of TV-bound OLED panels on June 19th.

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Chrispy_ · Jun 24, 2020

TIL that TCL is funding OLED projects for JOLED.

Also, I hope Samsung lose the lawsuit. They make decent stuff but they have a 20-year history of being assholes. Shady practices, price-fixing, corruption, patent-infringement, IP theft, screwing over consumers, to name just a few things...

Even if Samsung aren't actually guilty in this instance, they need putting in their place by legal bodies as often as possible, IMO.

bug · Jun 24, 2020

Did I read this right, a joint venture between Sony and Panasonic needed $187mn from a third party to scale production?

Chrispy_ · Jun 24, 2020

bug said:
Did I read this right, a joint venture between Sony and Panasonic needed $187mn from a third party to scale production?

I think so - That's how I read it, more of an eye opener than the lawsuit news itself.

ZeppMan217 · Jun 24, 2020

bug said:
Did I read this right, a joint venture between Sony and Panasonic needed $187mn from a third party to scale production?

There's probably more to it than just money.

Deleted member 67555 · Jun 24, 2020

bug said:
Did I read this right, a joint venture between Sony and Panasonic needed $187mn from a third party to scale production?

The cost of raw materials, manufacturing cost, transportation cost, warehousing cost and marketing.
for something like this 187mn $ isn't that bad.

RJARRRPCGP · Jun 25, 2020

Did JOLED even exist before 2018? Looks like they could be doomed from the get go, if what I saw, was correct! If correct, good luck with JOLED suing Samsung over Galaxy S5s.....

If Samsung loses, don't be surprised if QLED (LCD on 'roids) Galaxys get manufactured!

Caring1 · Jun 25, 2020

RJARRRPCGP said:
Did JOLED even exist before 2018? Looks like they could be doomed from the get go, if what I saw, was correct! If correct, good luck with JOLED suing Samsung over Galaxy S5s.....

That's irrelevant if they own the patent.

RJARRRPCGP · Jun 25, 2020

Caring1 said:
That's irrelevant if they own the patent.

How can they claim a patent years after they manufactured them, for example, suddenly ambushing Samsung in 2020 over a 2014 phone, if they didn't exist in 2014? That sounds like the type of stunt Acacia Research tried in the '00s and lost major time, because they acted out of malice! (caught attempting to patent something that existed long before them) (They tried to hold the internet and tech that was considered old, even at that time, hostage!)

watzupken · Jun 25, 2020

"At the time, the company was entering the small-display market with 21.6" offerings. "

Where are the monitors with this OLED display? Also, I feel its quite silly that they are trying to squeeze into the TV bound OLED market. This is currently dominated by LG, and to be honest, and TV sales have been declining/ stagnant.

ratirt · Jun 25, 2020

It seems weird to me. I thought Sony and Panasonic are getting displays for their products from Samsung.

Vya Domus · Jun 25, 2020

How come no filings were made in the home country of this company ?

They know US patent laws are a hellhole, this shit would never fly anywhere else.

R-T-B · Jun 25, 2020

ratirt said:
It seems weird to me. I thought Sony and Panasonic are getting displays for their products from Samsung.

More like LG. The TVs they produce in the OLED line all use LG oled panels.

ratirt · Jun 25, 2020

R-T-B said:
More like LG. The TVs they produce in the OLED line all use LG oled panels.

You are right but I could swear that Panasonic and Sony were using Samsung's displays at least some time ago. Haven't even noticed that it's changed.

R-T-B · Jun 25, 2020

ratirt said:
You are right but I could swear that Panasonic and Sony were using Samsung's displays at least some time ago. Haven't even noticed that it's changed.

Maybe in phones. Samsung itself doesn't even make large format oleds anymore...

ratirt · Jun 25, 2020

R-T-B said:
Maybe in phones. Samsung itself doesn't even make large format oleds anymore...

I wasn't talking about OLEDs but in general. I have an older Sony Bravia TV LCD and the display used in it is Samsung's. I remember we were even comparing Samsung TV with mine and the quality of the display since it was from the same vendor. I seen the OLED TV from Sony and these are not Samsung's for sure since I'm looking for a new purchase. Can't believe how could I've missed it.

Waldorf · Jun 25, 2020

They filed in Germany as well, and courts over there usually dont like BS law suits,
they have enough to deal with neighbor vs neighbor crap

samsung hasnt provided sony with screens for a while, and im glad.
highest rate of problems, even worse compared to the time they used Sharp.

R-T-B · Jun 26, 2020

Fry178 said:
Sharp.

There's a panel maker that sorta vanished. Do they even have any modern parts?

ratirt · Jun 26, 2020

R-T-B said:
There's a panel maker that sorta vanished. Do they even have any modern parts?

I think Sharp is still doing screens but TFT LCD not TV and they don't have newer technology but I might be wrong.

bug · Jun 26, 2020

R-T-B said:
There's a panel maker that sorta vanished. Do they even have any modern parts?

"Yellow-ish, on your screen..."

R-T-B · Jun 26, 2020

bug said:
"Yellow-ish, on your screen..."

I never owned their panels. I know they had some good VA ones in specs, but it sounds like I avoided something?

bug · Jun 26, 2020

R-T-B said:
I never owned their panels. I know they had some good VA ones in specs, but it sounds like I avoided something?

Not really:

R-T-B · Jun 26, 2020

bug said:
Not really:

Based on your comment, I was picturing yellowish greens or something, which would be a crime against all frog jpegs everywhere.

Waldorf · Jun 28, 2020

@R-T-B
Hisense is using their panels, but Sharp sued them for something because the quality was worse than what they told them it would be (or something like that).

@bug
was a great idea, but dead on arrival, as no video signal has/had a dedicated yellow channel, meaning it was "made up" rather than native.

bug · Jun 28, 2020

Fry178 said:
@bug
was a great idea, but on arrival, as no video signal has/had a dedicated yellow channel, meaning it was "made up" rather than native.

I've never seen one up close, so i wouldn't know. The commercial, though, I think it was brilliant. Probably Mr Takei had something to do with that

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