AMD Unveils Athlon 64 X2 6400+ Black Edition

[Wile E]

...you cannot deny the fact that AMD gives better performance for their money...

Only on the low end. They match pretty well price/performance wise, until the High end. (Which is all Intel, thus the stiff penalties, no competition)

 

[laszlo]

Let's hope they'll have the money for the new products;seems they sell notes for $1.5 billion i just read it.

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/VirtualPressRoom/0,,51_104_543~118792,00.html

 

[Tatty_Two]

Only on the low end. They match pretty well price/performance wise, until the High end. (Which is all Intel, thus the stiff penalties, no competition)

Agreed, and when you try to get things into perspective, TK is right in so much as clock for clock, compare the 6000+ against the 6850, both clocking stock at 3 Gig, now across the board clock for clock the 6850 might be 15-20% faster but in the UK it's not too far off twice as expensive as the 6000+ but at nowhere near twice the stock performance, yes it will overclock higher making that price/performance gap shorter but when only about 5% of home PC users overclock then there is something to be said for AMD still even with it's current and ageing stock.

I got the 6850 cause I do overclock

 

[trt740]

Agreed, and when you try to get things into perspective, TK is right in so much as clock for clock, compare the 6000+ against the 6850, both clocking stock at 3 Gig, now across the board clock for clock the 6850 might be 15-20% faster but in the UK it's not too far off twice as expensive as the 6000+ but at nowhere near twice the stock performance, yes it will overclock higher making that price/performance gap shorter but when only about 5% of home PC users overclock then there is something to be said for AMD still even with it's current and ageing stock.

I got the 6850 cause I do overclock

Well you rock Tatty you rock!!!!! Please get rid of that God forasken Avatar LOL. That big tumor is killing me on your head. I can believe Tatty is a black hearted Intel fan, God help us. Man hes ugley too just a reflection of his intel blackhearted soul . I for one am fed up with EVGA and Intel, second motherboard works but won't Id my SATA DVD/CD burner . The other board a Tr wouldn't oc a quad (got mislead on that ) new board is crap ola, and the new replacement is headed to my ebay account as is my e6700. I'm getting a AMD system and gonna pocket the difference since I have seen zero real world improvement, except for (maybe a little when burning a dvd). AMD here I come. I'm leaning towards a Brisbane 4000+ to oc to 3.0 and a 2900xt. God love ya AMD, or a AMD 6000+/6400+ and pocketing maybe 50.00 to 100.00 dollars depending on the motherboard I buy, and no video card. Intel makes great stuff as does Nvidia but I have turned back from the darkside ( I am a Jedi as my father was before me)I have freed myself from the dark vale of the Sith.!!!!!






Okay well maybe I'm just kidding lol!!! hey Tatty I'm just kidding about the intel stuff but not that God aweful avatar put on your glasses to read this you old fart; anyone want to bet he misses this part due to Eye strain lol!!! P.S all statements are subject to change as prices drop and my mind changes randomly. Which means I might not do this at all I might buy a Intel quad core shhhh!!! I feel like Two face Ahhhhhhhh!!!!!!

 

[Wile E]

Well you rock Tatty you rock!!!!! Please get rid of that God forasken Avatar LOL. That big tumor is killing me on your head. I can believe Tatty is a black hearted Intel fan, God help us. Man hes ugley too just a reflection of his intel blackhearted soul . I for one am fed up with EVGA and Intel, second motherboard works but won't Id my SATA DVD/CD burner . The other board a Tr wouldn't oc a quad (got mislead on that ) new board is crap ola, and the new replacement is headed to my ebay account as is my e6700. I'm getting a AMD system and gonna pocket the difference since I have seen zero real world improvement, except for (maybe a little when burning a dvd). AMD here I come. I'm leaning towards a Brisbane 4000+ to oc to 3.0 and a 2900xt. God love ya AMD, or a AMD 6000+/6400+ and pocketing maybe 50.00 to 100.00 dollars depending on the motherboard I buy, and no video card. Intel makes great stuff as does Nvidia but I have turned back from the darkside ( I am a Jedi as my father was before me)I have freed myself from the dark vale of the Sith.!!!!!






Okay well maybe I'm just kidding lol!!! hey Tatty I'm just kidding about the intel stuff but not that God aweful avatar put on your glasses to read this you old fart; anyone want to bet he misses this part due to Eye strain lol!!! P.S all statements are subject to change as prices drop and my mind changes randomly. Which means I might not do this at all I might buy a Intel quad core shhhh!!! I feel like Two face Ahhhhhhhh!!!!!!

If you do go AMD and a 2900XT, don't get a 4000+ and OC to 3GHz. That's exactly what I did just before this, and my card was still bottlenecked. It's much happier with the OCed 6000+.

 

[Tatty_Two]

Shit you worry me at times Trt.......and you say I need to change my avitar I gotta say, yours is much uglier than mine and at least a zombie has a heart!

 

[cdawall]

Well you rock Tatty you rock!!!!! Please get rid of that God forasken Avatar LOL. That big tumor is killing me on your head. I can believe Tatty is a black hearted Intel fan, God help us. Man hes ugley too just a reflection of his intel blackhearted soul . I for one am fed up with EVGA and Intel, second motherboard works but won't Id my SATA DVD/CD burner . The other board a Tr wouldn't oc a quad (got mislead on that ) new board is crap ola, and the new replacement is headed to my ebay account as is my e6700. I'm getting a AMD system and gonna pocket the difference since I have seen zero real world improvement, except for (maybe a little when burning a dvd). AMD here I come. I'm leaning towards a Brisbane 4000+ to oc to 3.0 and a 2900xt. God love ya AMD, or a AMD 6000+/6400+ and pocketing maybe 50.00 to 100.00 dollars depending on the motherboard I buy, and no video card. Intel makes great stuff as does Nvidia but I have turned back from the darkside ( I am a Jedi as my father was before me)I have freed myself from the dark vale of the Sith.!!!!!

get an opty 1210 they do 3.2ghz+ though i would recommend a 6000+ if you want over 3.3ghz if not 3.2ghz on the opty is doable on stock PIB cooling

 

[trt740]

Dragged to the darkside.

Well you rock Tatty you rock!!!!! Please get rid of that God forasken Avatar LOL. That big tumor is killing me on your head. I can believe Tatty is a black hearted Intel fan, God help us. Man hes ugley too just a reflection of his intel blackhearted soul . I for one am fed up with EVGA and Intel, second motherboard works but won't Id my SATA DVD/CD burner . The other board a Tr wouldn't oc a quad (got mislead on that ) new board is crap ola, and the new replacement is headed to my ebay account as is my e6700. I'm getting a AMD system and gonna pocket the difference since I have seen zero real world improvement, except for (maybe a little when burning a dvd). AMD here I come. I'm leaning towards a Brisbane 4000+ to oc to 3.0 and a 2900xt. God love ya AMD, or a AMD 6000+/6400+ and pocketing maybe 50.00 to 100.00 dollars depending on the motherboard I buy, and no video card. Intel makes great stuff as does Nvidia but I have turned back from the darkside ( I am a Jedi as my father was before me)I have freed myself from the dark vale of the Sith.!!!!!


Ahhh!!!!! I was lured back and it's all Tatty's fault If he had not taught me how to overclock Ahhhhhh!!!!! Q6600 B3 stepping (yes I know it's not a s good as G0 stepping) $267.98 shipped the price dragged me back to the darkside. Damn Intel to hell and their chips.


The power of the Darkside is strong

 

[JC316]

Well you rock Tatty you rock!!!!! Please get rid of that God forasken Avatar LOL. That big tumor is killing me on your head. I can believe Tatty is a black hearted Intel fan, God help us. Man hes ugley too just a reflection of his intel blackhearted soul . I for one am fed up with EVGA and Intel, second motherboard works but won't Id my SATA DVD/CD burner . The other board a Tr wouldn't oc a quad (got mislead on that ) new board is crap ola, and the new replacement is headed to my ebay account as is my e6700. I'm getting a AMD system and gonna pocket the difference since I have seen zero real world improvement, except for (maybe a little when burning a dvd). AMD here I come. I'm leaning towards a Brisbane 4000+ to oc to 3.0 and a 2900xt. God love ya AMD, or a AMD 6000+/6400+ and pocketing maybe 50.00 to 100.00 dollars depending on the motherboard I buy, and no video card. Intel makes great stuff as does Nvidia but I have turned back from the darkside ( I am a Jedi as my father was before me)I have freed myself from the dark vale of the Sith.!!!!!


Ahhh!!!!! I was lured back and it's all Tatty's fault If he had not taught me how to overclock Ahhhhhh!!!!! Q6600 B3 stepping (yes I know it's not a s good as G0 stepping) $267.98 shipped the price dragged me back to the darkside. Damn Intel to hell and their chips.


The power of the Darkside is strong

Yes my master, (I find it amusing that my avatar is Vader and yours is Sidious), the dark side is STRONG for now I am going to be an Intel man once again.

 

[InnocentCriminal]

Screw all this fanboy bullcrap! Whichever CPU is the best (price : performance wise) then that should be what you buy. I do like to support AMD as they're the underdogs - but if Intel have a better set of products for the right price, they'll get my money everytime.

 

[Tatty_Two]

Screw all this fanboy bullcrap! Whichever CPU is the best (price : performance wise) then that should be what you buy. I do like to support AMD as they're the underdogs - but if Intel have a better set of products for the right price, they'll get my money everytime.

Agreed and I do! Got this 6850 for less than the price of a 6600 and only a little bit more than a 6000+....but that was one of those very rare lucky days!

 

[mandelore]

meh... im waiting on a phenom, then ill be happy. if its shit, ill go nuts and probs kill aload of locals

 

[a111087]

meh... im waiting on a phenom, then ill be happy. if its shit, ill go nuts and probs kill aload of locals

I will warn them

 

[trt740]

meh... im waiting on a phenom, then ill be happy. if its shit, ill go nuts and probs kill aload of locals

Your 185 is a great chip keep it for a while.

 

[trt740]

just read a article thats states these chips will do 3.57ghz on air and most likely 3.6ghz or higher on water

 

[hat]

My 5200+ does 2772 (172MHz increace frpm stock) on the stock cooler WHILE BEING UNDERVOLTED .025 volts. I got a good chip.

The 6400+ is higher binned and should hit 3.5 easy