NVIDIA G92 rumors - possible specifications

[Darksaber]

Christmas is coming up fast once more and rumor has it, that NVIDIA plans to release their new graphic cards in November, just in time for the holiday rush. The NVIDIA G92, possibly called GeForce 9800 GTX will have 1 billion transistors and could cost somewhere around 549 - 649 USD, while the GTS should only set you back 399 to 449 USD. Take a look at the spec's after the break.

- 65nm process technology at TSMC.
- Over one billion transistors.
- Second Generation Unified Shader Architecture.
- Double precsion support (FP64).
- GPGPU native.
- Over one TeraFLOPS of shader processing power.
- MADD+ADD configuration for the shader untis (2+1 FLOPS=3 FLOPS per ALU)
- Fully Scalar design.
- 512-bit memory interface.
- 1024MB GDDR4 graphics memory.
- DirectX 10.1 support.
- OpenGL 3.0 Support.
- eDRAM die for "FREE 4xAA".
- Built in Audio Chip (HDMI).
- Built in tesselation unit (in the graphics core)
- Improved AA and AF quality levels

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[LiveOrDie]

and don't forget there PCI-e 2.0 not 1.0 so you need a hole new board if they don't bring out a 1.0 revision

 

[mysticjon]

hey darksaber, i dont mean this as an attack nor i dont want to make myself appear as jackass, but http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=37563

ill just leave that link at that and wont say anything else

 

[Darksaber]

hey darksaber, i dont mean this as an attack nor i dont want to make myself appear as jackass, but http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=37563

ill just leave that link at that and wont say anything else

Hi, just wanted to mention it in public as well. I did not read the forum post and the post the news. I stumbled over it at the source mentioned. Not everyone who visits TPU reads the forum, thus it needs to be on the front news page.

cheers
DS

 

[mysticjon]

Hi, just wanted to mention it in public as well. I did not read the forum post and the post the news. I stumbled over it at the source mentioned. Not everyone who visits TPU reads the forum, thus it needs to be on the front news page.

cheers
DS

ahh its all good, i sent a pm back

 

[DaC]

Well, I don't use to read TPU forum, only RSS, so I think it's great when sometime messages from forum show up here.

Anyway.... TERAFLOP ? Looks like SKYNET (from Terminator 3), is nearly to be done.
Wasn't that the processing power of it ?
Run for your life!

hehe

 

[HellasVagabond]

The specs have been online for months and nothing has changed, the only new thing is really the price which isnt good nor bad.

 

[OnBoard]

Hopefully there is a nice pricedrop for 8800s along with these =)

 

[theonetruewill]

9800GTX...Sounds so much like ATi it's weird. Can't shake the good old 9800 cards from my head

 

[petepete]

stupid question but where is the source that says for a fact that it's going to be PCI-E 2.0..

pete

 

[HellasVagabond]

Considering that PCI-E 3.0 is under development i dont think that the soon to be last gen of Nvidias GPU would be using something else than PCI-E 2.0 so its quite logical.

 

[petepete]

Thanks for explaining the obvious but I want to know hard evidence that nvidia is making them in PCI-E 2.0

 

[Ser-J]

Wow, ATi is just getting owned more and more, poor guys :shadedshu, as far as PCI-E 2.0, i think Nvidia will make a big mistake if they release their new line of GPUs only in PCI-E 2.0

 

[EnJoY]

PCI-E 2.0 is fully backwards compatible to 1.0...so stop all this talk about need new motherboards and what not.

 

[HaZe303]

and don't forget there PCI-e 2.0 not 1.0 so you need a hole new board if they don't bring out a 1.0 revision

Isnt PCI-e 2.0 cards supposed to be 1.0 backward compatible??? If not, I think NV/ATI will have a huge problem with selling these cards. Because most people dont fancy buying a new mobo just for a new GPU. Hopefully my P35 mobo can get some bios upgrade supporting 2.0, p35 does support pci-e 2.0... Se we can hope...


EDit:

PCI-E 2.0 is fully backwards compatible to 1.0...so stop all this talk about need new motherboards and what not.

Exactly! Didnt read all post before posting...

 

[HellasVagabond]

It is backwards compatible but with a performance loss. However noone knows exactly how much that loss will be.

 

[HaZe303]

To be honest, I dont think the loss will be that great with the g92 card. Maybe if using SLI/Xfire?? But not that much with a single card. Just to reference, when using a g80 card in x16 pci-e and x8 pci-e (v.1.0) the difference in performance isnt really that big.

 

[HellasVagabond]

Time will tell.

 

[HaZe303]

Time will tell.

yes it will!!

 

[WarEagleAU]

I think Nvidia will have to come up with a different numbering scheme for these cards. Too much confusion with ATIs parts from yesteryear.

 

[HellasVagabond]

I dont think you can confuse a 2003 card with an 2007-2008 card.
Even so 1 is called Radeon and the other Gforce.
Now even after both of these someone confuses them im sure he wont bother with things like high end cards.

 

[KennyT772]

Isnt PCI-e 2.0 cards supposed to be 1.0 backward compatible??? If not, I think NV/ATI will have a huge problem with selling these cards. Because most people dont fancy buying a new mobo just for a new GPU. Hopefully my P35 mobo can get some bios upgrade supporting 2.0, p35 does support pci-e 2.0... Se we can hope...


EDit:


Exactly! Didnt read all post before posting...

Ever heard of AGP?

 

[HaZe303]

Ever heard of AGP?

Not really the same thing. If PCI-E v.2.0 would be 5 times faster and had a name like "PCI-Extreme Express" or "GDI-Graphiscs Super Duper" then it would be the same thing. But from PCI-E 1.0 ->2.0 is not something people would want to buy a new mobo for. Or atleast I wouldnt. I think you should be able to use 1.0 gfx cards in a 2.0 slot but with 1.0 performance. And you should be able to use a 2.0 gfx card in a 1.0 slot but with 1.0 performance. If not, really bad tech IMO.

 

[KennyT772]

Not really the same thing. If PCI-E v.2.0 would be 5 times faster and had a name like "PCI-Extreme Express" or "GDI-Graphiscs Super Duper" then it would be the same thing. But from PCI-E 1.0 ->2.0 is not something people would want to buy a new mobo for. Or atleast I wouldnt. I think you should be able to use 1.0 gfx cards in a 2.0 slot but with 1.0 performance. And you should be able to use a 2.0 gfx card in a 1.0 slot but with 1.0 performance. If not, really bad tech IMO.

That is the same exact principle in agp, doubling the data rate 1x->2x->4x->8x. They also played with the slot voltage, but most cards were compatible with 1/2 2/4 or 4/8 so they were mostly compatible with any era slot. I'm telling ya dude, its the same scenario. Wonder why? Because when you say you double performance of something people buy it.

 

[Nyte]

and don't forget there PCI-e 2.0 not 1.0 so you need a hole new board if they don't bring out a 1.0 revision

PCI-Express 2.0 specification dictates that all devices should be compatible with the 1.0a and 1.1 revisions so no new board is needed (unless you want to run it at 2.0 speeds that is).