Various Custom RTX 3080 and RTX 3090 Graphics Cards Priced in Germany

[mobiuus]

Yet another person with little brains doing the typing. Yes, the 3090 is what used to be the Titan, so called "halo" segment, hence the price. And yes, 3090 isnt full chip, ive read that, surprise surpsie here on tech power up.
And yes, there will be a full chip, probably named 3090ti with higher specs.

And yes, you are a bit dumb.
Here you go moderators, now this is fully fledged insult.
Jeeeeeeeeeeezes spank me !

pleasee...
i already see owners of 3090 1700eur and their look in eyes when a 500eur 4070 comes out for what 500 eur? lmao just buy it

 

[GreiverBlade]

"The $1,499 "starting price" of the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 is beginning to look a lot less suggestive " it always was .... even on older gen, MSRP is a fabled unicorn for me (well almost glad to see Germany is on par with Switzerland...)

i.e.: a 2080Ti is still 1200+ chf
(taxes excuses? nah, even with taxes include, US would still be cheaper, slightly closer to MSRP, although on import the custom taxes would level it ... oh and taxes should always be include ... EU enforcing it is only logical.)


man, that 420 chf RX 5700 XT is looking more and more like a sensible upgrade ... since even a 3070 will be priced like it's made of solid gold ... if i can't wait till RDNA2
i guess close to a 2070 Super is enough for 106 chf less than what my 1070 was priced at (well ... i should change the mobo and CPU before that ... )

 

[ratirt]

No it hasn't been introduced as a gaming card, rather a Pro/Gaming card just like a Titan.
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They officially compared it with the last gen Titan. Just accept you were wrong and move on.

Yeah you have answered yourself here buddy. Compared to a previous gen. It's marketing and you know what that is right?
Pro/Gaming it's still gaming. Just giving a hint of what sort of performance to expect. Just like 1080ti back in the days was Ultimate Gaming. 3090 is gaming segment or Desktop if you like that one better nothing else but you can use it for whatever you want.

 

[Vayra86]

Yeah you have answered yourself here buddy. Compared to a previous gen. It's marketing and you know what that is right?
Pro/Gaming it's still gaming. Just giving a hint of what sort of performance to expect. Just like 1080ti back in the days was Ultimate Gaming. 3090 is gaming segment or Desktop if you like that one better nothing else but you can use it for whatever you want.

Its part of RTX line so officially it is a gaming GPU. But for the potential buyer, it is whatever it wants it to be. Nvidia markets BOTH angles for that card, right now and in the past. You're both correct... Its also the most boring debate ever. Semantics at best.

This card is for gaming not workstation's workloads.

This however, is just plain wrong. The card has a different set of resources compared to a 1080ti or 980ti. It can do different operations at varying precision.

 

[ratirt]

Its part of RTX line so officially it is a gaming GPU. But for the potential buyer, it is whatever it wants it to be. Nvidia markets BOTH angles for that card, right now and in the past. You're both correct... Its also the most boring debate ever. Semantics at best.



This however, is just plain wrong. The card has a different set of resources compared to a 1080ti or 980ti. It can do different operations at varying precision.

I'm not arguing anymore about semantics here. You can use if for whatever you want (workstation workloads) as well.
It is not meant for workstation workloads but it can do that as well.
You don't always have to be the arbiter Appreciate it anyway

 

[Vayra86]

Thanks because as you know the arbiter is always right

No but really, I get itchy when I see bullshit & twisted logic, that is all.

 

[ratirt]

Thanks because as you know the arbiter is always right

No but really, I get itchy when I see bullshit & twisted logic, that is all.

The arbiter has a last say but not necessarily right
For the record. I'm allergic to bullshit

 

[Hattu]

Preliminary prices in Finland, at the shop I usually buy my stuff from:


3070 : 570€ - 750€
3080 : 740€ - 1000€
3090 : 1590€ - 1950€


Differences in prices are huge and it seems that the more expencive ones are heavily overclocked. Cheaper cards have two power connectors and lower power requirements. More expencive cards have three connectors and at least 100W higher power requirements. There are no information regarding clocks or other things yet.

Interesting to see how the performance differs between cards. And can AMD take its part on competition later this year.

If I were building a new rig in near future, I'd be tempted buying one of the cheaper cards. Upgrading just my RTX2060 is not an option atm, as I think none of them will fit in my (diy) itx-case anyway. Cpu, MB, memory and monitor is on the menu first, because I need them more than new gpu.

But yes, very interesting times indeed.

 

[theonek]

1700 eur card? Thanks, but no thanks! It's not worth this price tag, won't be twice faster than 2080ti to pay the premium over....

 

[koaschten]

People need to stop complaining about the 3090 price tag and not seeing it as a "titan equivalent price". Look at the 3080 and compare it to 2080(super).

 

[rtwjunkie]

3090 is not new 980ti/1080ti equivalent and was never supposed to be.

Actually, it occupies the same place in the hierarchy in this generation as those did in their generations. This was even stated by Nvidia. Don’t be fooled by the “Titan-level performance.” That’s jist so you buy into how powerful this card is, before real testing is done independantly.

So you argue that 3 times the (cost) in 3 generations for the same spot is perfectly valid? Whose income other than apparently yours went up 3 times in roughly 6 and a half years?

I’m not begrudging the advances in tech and performance, rather you defending this extreme rise in cost where even the 3080’s may be out of most people’s reach.

 

[bug]

So you argue that 3 times the in 3 generations is for the same spot is perfectly valid? Whose income other than apparently yours went up 3 times in roughly 6 and a half years?

That's only valid if you think 3090 is the replacement for old Ti cards. It's not, it's an oddity, like 2080Ti.

I’m not begrudging the advances in tech and performance, rather you defending this extreme rise in cost where even the 3080’s may be out of most people’s reach.

Yup, these cards may be a lot of things, but cheap isn't one of them

 

[londiste]

Just went on their site, even without the 19% VAT, the 3090s are upwards of $1700

Cheapest listed RTX3090 is 1576,07€. Without 16% VAT that is 1358,68€ - roughly $1605. That's not bad.
Similarly, cheapest listed RTX3080 is 740,16€. Without 16% VAT, that is 638,07€ - roughly $754.
These are also prerelease prices and will probably go down a bit.

Nvidia's German store lists RTX3090 at 1499€ and RTX3080 at 699€.

 

[Calmmo]

3090/titan early access 3080ti/xx80ti

 

[lexluthermiester]

People need to stop complaining about the 3090 price tag and not seeing it as a "titan equivalent price".

Especially when you consider that the RTX Titan was $2500.

 

[Deleted member 185088]

The more time passes the more I'm disappointed by Ampere, they are still overpriced, the 1070 offered 980ti performance for less than 400$ now the 3070 is at least 500$, and then the vram is a let down, the 3080 should've 12gb and 3070 10gb.
I blame AMD to some extent, they didn't launch anything remotely good, Navi was good but too late to the game and overpriced to a lesser extent than nVidia but still overpriced.
Hopefully, they try to gain back some market and bring a competitive GPU on time, to stop this insanity with prices.

 

[lexluthermiester]

The more time passes the more I'm disappointed by Ampere, they are still overpriced

That's an interesting opinion, especially considering that the reviews and benchmarks have not been released yet. Stop whining until the numbers are published.

I blame AMD to some extent, they didn't launch anything remotely good

Also an interesting opinion, one that has little merit given that the RX5700/RX5700xt are excellent performers and are all that much better a value when price is factored in..

 

[Deleted member 185088]

That's an interesting opinion, especially considering that the reviews and benchmarks have not been released yet. Stop whining until the numbers are published.

Also an interesting opinion, one that has little merit given that the RX5700/RX5700xt are excellent performers and are all that much better a value when price is factored in..

I'm not whining about the performance I'm expecting huge uplift compared to Turing given the specs, but rather about the price and the vram.
I don't disagree, Navi are very good compared to Turing, price for price they are faster especially the 5700 once unlocked, but both Turing and Navi were overpriced.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Cheapest listed RTX3090 is 1576,07€. Without 16% VAT that is 1358,68€ - roughly $1605. That's not bad.
Similarly, cheapest listed RTX3080 is 740,16€. Without 16% VAT, that is 638,07€ - roughly $754.
These are also prerelease prices and will probably go down a bit.

Nvidia's German store lists RTX3090 at 1499€ and RTX3080 at 699€.

Why would you subtract Vat, you pay what you pay , the price pre vat is pointless to mention and using pre tax price to validate the cost of a card before it's tested is a big stretch of reasoning.

Especially Without performance metrics, validated by a third party and expecting prices to drop on a launch that's over subscribed is mental.
They're not going to be cheaper , a blower cooler version isn't likely given the wattage except for the 3070 perhaps.

 

[Easo]

Preliminary prices in Finland, at the shop I usually buy my stuff from:


3070 : 570€ - 750€
3080 : 740€ - 1000€
3090 : 1590€ - 1950€


Differences in prices are huge and it seems that the more expencive ones are heavily overclocked. Cheaper cards have two power connectors and lower power requirements. More expencive cards have three connectors and at least 100W higher power requirements. There are no information regarding clocks or other things yet.

Interesting to see how the performance differs between cards. And can AMD take its part on competition later this year.

If I were building a new rig in near future, I'd be tempted buying one of the cheaper cards. Upgrading just my RTX2060 is not an option atm, as I think none of them will fit in my (diy) itx-case anyway. Cpu, MB, memory and monitor is on the menu first, because I need them more than new gpu.

But yes, very interesting times indeed.

I honestly do not like where it is going. That hype about prices is not as real as first thought. Buy yeah, looks like I will take a look at the stock cards too instead of 200+ eur version.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I'm not whining about the performance I'm expecting huge uplift compared to Turing given the specs, but rather about the price and the vram.

Yeah, that's still whining. Your opinion about the price has no merit without the context of performance to grant a perspective of overall value, especially given that the proposed prices are significantly lower than the previous gen cards and are on par with the GTX10xx series cards.

but both Turing and Navi were overpriced.

Ok, how do you qualify your opinion? Are you saying that because you can't afford them?

 

[londiste]

Why would you subtract Vat, you pay what you pay , the price pre vat is pointless to mention and using pre tax price to validate the cost of a card before it's tested is a big stretch of reasoning.

Maybe I cut too much off the quote. The comparison was against US prices, which usually are without taxes.

 

[lexluthermiester]

The comparison was against US prices, which usually are without taxes.

Yeah, we're different than most of the EU that quote prices with VAT/Tax included(as required by law). We quote prices without taxes applied mostly because taxes vary from region to region.

 

[rtwjunkie]

That's only valid if you think 3090 is the replacement for old Ti cards. It's not, it's an oddity, like 2080Ti.

True, but it's not me that thinks it. That was what was put out.

 

[Paganstomp]

Great for coin mining!!!