NVIDIA GeForce 456.38 WHQL Released: Ampere Support, SLI Finally Dead

[moproblems99]

Does anyone with tweaking experience and driver experience know why NVidia is preventing implicit SLI on 3090, since it should come naturally free? Is this an artificial limitation, or is there something in Ampere that would be impossible or too much work to maintain support for implicit SLI?

Because they don't want to do the driver work because that driver work is not naturally free.

 

[Michaelgr]

Cool, a driver for all the 200 people who managed to get one!

you counted them all I see, you know how to count from 1 to 200 because you are a science mathematician, you definitely have to work at nasa to clean the toilets

 

[Upgrayedd]

And the answer is equally simple, and already stated. Read it again. And do not spread FUD about NVIDIA "disabling" anything.



That's because the game is a buggy POS. But as long as people like you keep rewarding EA for their failures by buying their buggy POS games, and blaming GPU manufacturers instead of EA, EA will happily take your money and keep churning out buggy POS games. So complain elsewhere, because you're part of the problem.

dude chill, you're coming at everyone pretty aggressive and rude.

CoD is Activision, not EA.
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Ok kill SLI but I want an add in RT card. Like the old PhysX days.

Someone should be able to buy an RT card to throw in with their 1080Ti.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I'm just curious, when is Nvidia going to update their driver UI, as it's circa Y2K design is getting a bit long in the tooth...
In fact, the attached screenshot offers a better view of the interface than the poor scaling Nvidia's interface has on my 4K screen...

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Because there is no need to change what works and works very well. We otherwise might end up with some garbage nonsense along the lines of what happened with the transition from Windows 7 -> Windows 8 -> Windows 8.1 -> Windows 10.

 

[raptori]

Does Geforce Experience still require log-in ? I remember that Nvidia said they'll introduce an overhaul to Geforce Experience that'll let the user use it without log-in along with the release of Ampere ...

 

[MxPhenom 216]

dude chill, you're coming at everyone pretty aggressive and rude.

CoD is Activision, not EA.
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Ok kill SLI but I want an add in RT card. Like the old PhysX days.

Someone should be able to buy an RT card to throw in with their 1080Ti.

That's all hes ever done on this forum while making himself look like the moron. Ironic.

 

[Caring1]

That's all hes ever done on this forum while making himself look like the moron. Ironic.

How does making an informed and direct reply make one a moron?

 

[MxPhenom 216]

How does making an informed and direct reply make one a moron?

Go back through this thread there buddy. Informed? LMAO

 

[kn00tcn]

too many misleading bait news titles on tpu last few years making me repeatedly almost leave...

Does anyone with tweaking experience and driver experience know why NVidia is preventing implicit SLI on 3090, since it should come naturally free? Is this an artificial limitation, or is there something in Ampere that would be impossible or too much work to maintain support for implicit SLI?

each architecture needs new/different code in the driver, historically gpu drivers are full of per game or engine optimizations, it's kind of a development nightmare

however, in the past you could try different existing sli profiles on arbitrary games using nvinspector, but a lot of times with minor or major visual side effects even if the performance goes up

it's more like dead end work rather than impossible, the single gpus will keep getting more performant while the games stuck on old APIs wont need a second gpu as time goes on, plus engine complexity makes it harder for a gpu driver to hack up working multigpu

if it wasnt dropped this gen then it would be next gen, especially as dx12 & vulkan usage continues to rise

also note this line in the PR "Instead, we will focus efforts on supporting developers to implement SLI natively inside the games"

 

[AddSub]

Hmm, I can force SLI profiles on games that have none, both with my 1070's, 980ti's, GTX 580's, 550TI's, etc etc, and still have amazing success and pretty amazing scaling. This seems like more of a corporate "does this help us make more money or less?" maneuvering and obsoletion by force than anything else. I mean, 3070 in SLI for $1400? Wouldn't that outperform, or at least slow the sales of 3090 as people turn to buying one 3070 and then another 6-18 months down the road (2nd one for a deep discount making it even more attractive).

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[mouacyk]

Hmm, I can force SLI profiles on games that have none, both with my 1070's, 980ti's, GTX 580's, 550TI's, etc etc, and still have amazing success and pretty amazing scaling. This seems like more of a corporate "does this help us make more money or less?" maneuvering and obsoletion by force than anything else. I mean, 3070 in SLI for $1400? Wouldn't that outperform, or at least slow the sales of 3090 as people turn to buying one 3070 and then another 6-18 months down the road (2nd one for a deep discount making it even more attractive).

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That's always been my suspicion that a generic SLI (AFR) solution exists in the driver, that just copies the completed frame from a buffer without much knowledge of the arch. Thanks for confirming that SLI can be attempted for games without profiles (I thought this much was true.)

 

[TheLostSwede]

Because there is no need to change what works and works very well. We otherwise might end up with some garbage nonsense along the lines of what happened with the transition from Windows 7 -> Windows 8 -> Windows 8.1 -> Windows 10.

But it doesn't though. It scales like shit on 4K screens, it's hard to find the new features, it's fiddly to use and sometimes settings aren't applied. So no, it doesn't work very well, it's a horrid, old UI that is in need of a massive overhaul.

 

[rtwjunkie]

Not very good at reading I see. Try again:

No I read quite fine. You, besides complaining about a non-issue, apparently did not make clear what you were referring to. Since you like to insult, Welcome to ignore.

 

[Mussels]

Nvidia: lets release a 4k gaming monster card and bundle it with all these new features in fortnite

Also Nvidia:

• [Fortnite]: Blue-screen crash occurs pointing to nvlddmkm.sys when playing the game at 4K resolution. [200645328]
• To work around, set the resolution to lower than 4k.

 

[lexluthermiester]

It scales like shit on 4K screens

Then don't use scaling. On the system I have plugged into my living room 4k TV, scaling is turned off(set for 100%). Everything works fine.

it's hard to find the new features

How? It's all front & center the moment you open the control panel.

it's fiddly to use and sometimes settings aren't applied.

I'm not having this experience. When a setting is changed, it acually changes the moment I click the "Apply" button.

 

[Bubster]

I had a problem installing from Geforce experience program...i had to use Techpowerup to download and install it. Thank you TPU.

 

[Upgrayedd]

I had a problem installing from Geforce experience program...i had to use Techpowerup to download and install it. Thank you TPU.

The method I use for installing drivers is
1 - download the driver of choice from TPU. The non-DCH or Standard driver from TPU should have a smaller file size than DCH.
2 - Disconnect ethernet to fully prevent Win10 from downloading GFE and a quick driver. (Disabling the auto update feature doesn't fully work for me.)
3 - use DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) , choose clean and restart.
4 - use TPU'S own NVCleanInstall and manually select the driver you downloaded from step 1. Clean install and select the components you want, GFE is optional.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I had a problem installing from Geforce experience program...i had to use Techpowerup to download and install it. Thank you TPU.

Skip "Geforce Experience". Drivers and Control Panel are good.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Then don't use scaling. On the system I have plugged into my living room 4k TV, scaling is turned off(set for 100%). Everything works fine.


How? It's all front & center the moment you open the control panel.


I'm not having this experience. When a setting is changed, it acually changes the moment I click the "Apply" button.

I think you misunderstand, I don't use scaling, the UI is tiny, because it doesn't scale. It's like using Windows 7 software on Windows 10.

Uhm, not, they're all hidden under little drop downs and the new features are never highlighted or explained in a sensible way.

Nope, disabled G-Sync, hit apply, it was still enabled, so yeah, it doesn't always work. Had to enable it, hit apply, disable it and hit apply again to disable it.

 

[ROLHISHIOUS]

nice, no fix for device_removed erros from Shadow Of The Tomb Raider

 

[Vayra86]

I think you misunderstand, I don't use scaling, the UI is tiny, because it doesn't scale. It's like using Windows 7 software on Windows 10.

Uhm, not, they're all hidden under little drop downs and the new features are never highlighted or explained in a sensible way.

Nope, disabled G-Sync, hit apply, it as still enabled, so yeah, it doesn't always work. Had to enable it, hit apply, disable it and hit apply again to disable it.

As long asI know SLI it has had these niggles. Saying its active when only one card works, being disabled out of the blue (monitor on/off did it at some point...)

And then there is frametime variance...

 

[Slizzo]

The method I use for installing drivers is
1 - download the driver of choice from TPU. The non-DCH or Standard driver from TPU should have a smaller file size than DCH.
2 - Disconnect ethernet to fully prevent Win10 from downloading GFE and a quick driver. (Disabling the auto update feature doesn't fully work for me.)
3 - use DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) , choose clean and restart.
4 - use TPU'S own NVCleanInstall and manually select the driver you downloaded from step 1. Clean install and select the components you want, GFE is optional.

Actually, the DCH driver download should be SMALLER, as it doesn't contain the NVIDIA Control Panel with it. You need to download that from the Windows Store.

 

[EarthDog]

Finally... put a fork in that debacle called SLI/CFx already.... lol

 

[DJSuprimeW]

Yeah it´s the only problem is the BOSD

Clean install incoming

You fixxed already?...or still bluescreens?

Because i got here the same problem. midle in the installation bam bluescreen.

i tryed this so far:

-ddu unninstall. does not work
-normal install. does not work
-installing the update within geforce expierence. does not work
-downloading the drivers from nvidia and other websites. does not work.

you got some any ideas?...

the bluescreen is:


System thread exception not handled
nvlddmkm.sys


hope you got a fix of a answer?...

peace

 

[skydoy]

You fixxed already?...or still bluescreens?

Because i got here the same problem. midle in the installation bam bluescreen.

i tryed this so far:

-ddu unninstall. does not work
-normal install. does not work
-installing the update within geforce expierence. does not work
-downloading the drivers from nvidia and other websites. does not work.

you got some any ideas?...

the bluescreen is:


System thread exception not handled
nvlddmkm.sys


hope you got a fix of a answer?...

peace

No luck, my BSOD is: VIDEO_SCHEDULER_INTERNAL_ERROR

Tried eveything

My friend with the same gpu has exactly the same error