AMD RX 5700 Series Reportedly Enter EOL - No Longer Manufactured

[voltage]

it's about time, that's a terrible card, it's a damn heater. besides, it never processed all that well for it's price point.

 

[Chane]

Loved my 5700, for $280 it was a steal. I didn't have any issues with it and temps were fine with a nice little undervolt. I was tempted by raytracing and sold it, but i'm psyched for these rdna 2 cards and can't wait to see what they deliver.

 

[Space Lynx]

Loved my 5700, for $280 it was a steal. I didn't have any issues with it and temps were fine with a nice little undervolt. I was tempted by raytracing and sold it, but i'm psyched for these rdna 2 cards and can't wait to see what they deliver.

How have you liked ray tracing? Impressed or no? I was never impressed with ray tracing, so I am going with RDNA2 personally.

 

[DaveLT]

it's about time, that's a terrible card, it's a damn heater. besides, it never processed all that well for it's price point.

What was? 5700 XT brought the fight to Nvidia and was hardly a heater at least.

 

[watzupken]

In my opinion, RDNA is like a stop gap solution. The actual RDNA that AMD wanted to introduce is RDNA2. The first version is like a pipe clearer and also to help AMD regain some market share. In addition, you may also observed that future APUs are going to be RDNA2 which is another indication of it being a temporary solution. So I am not surprised that they will stop production once RDNA2 is introduced across all the market segments. The 5700 series is actually a great GPU, though marred by poor drivers at the onset and took AMD some time to fix most of it. I do observe driver bugs on my Vega GPU, but none that is a show stopper so far.

 

[Chane]

How have you liked ray tracing? Impressed or no? I was never impressed with ray tracing, so I am going with RDNA2 personally.

I like it for reflections, the limitations of ssr always annoyed me. all the other ray traced effects don't impress me. I'm definitely considering an RDNA2 card, especially since my TV's only VRR tech is Freesync.

 

[Mussels]

If they're confident of stock levels and consumer reaction to the new products this makes sense, maybe they've got so much stock because they stopped producing the 5700s early and pushed the resources to the new models?

 

[Luminescent]

Amd doesn't really compete with Nvidia anymore in enthusiasts or average desktop PC users that want some GPU horse power but not pay a lot.
If you look at the market share they barely exists, so what they release now is the GPU from consoles pushed to the limits with probably very shaky drivers.
It might be a good architecture but for AMD it's a cash grab, a quick way to make some money but no real intention to actually compete with Nvidia.
They mimic some competition but they really don't care, i have a Polaris GPU ( sapphire rx480), bought it 4 years ago and they still didn't fix the fan problem, after some time you hear the fans spinning 100% and then 0, you reset the fans in the drivers and problem pops again after a day or two, it waits for the gpu to hit an absurd temperature, ramps up the fans to 100% then it goes to 0 and waits again.
The fix is custom fan curve but it resets after a day or two.
4 years and still no fix, this is really annoying and i rarely play games, who knows what problems they have in new titles and how much time passes before they fix the bugs.

 

[ypsylon]

5700 maybe "EOL" for "gamers" and "enthusiasts". AMD will milk that architecture for next decade, like they do with Polaris right now.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Amd doesn't really compete with Nvidia anymore in enthusiasts or average desktop PC users that want some GPU horse power but not pay a lot.
If you look at the market share they barely exists, so what they release now is the GPU from consoles pushed to the limits with probably very shaky drivers.
It might be a good architecture but for AMD it's a cash grab, a quick way to make some money but no real intention to actually compete with Nvidia.
They mimic some competition but they really don't care, i have a Polaris GPU ( sapphire rx480), bought it 4 years ago and they still didn't fix the fan problem, after some time you hear the fans spinning 100% and then 0, you reset the fans in the drivers and problem pops again after a day or two, it waits for the gpu to hit an absurd temperature, ramps up the fans to 100% then it goes to 0 and waits again.
The fix is custom fan curve but it resets after a day or two.
4 years and still no fix, this is really annoying and i rarely play games, who knows what problems they have in new titles and how much time passes before they fix the bugs.

Still have a reference 480 in my server pc , it works fine, as it always has but it's not relevant here.
This is a fake rumour thread about 5700 going Eol which it isn't.
I'm off to play squadrons on my vega64 without issues while you have a think, is it me? , Perhaps it is, perhaps I should have been on topic at least once.
You are on about the right company at least,.

Oh and news flash Companies are built to make money, and tech companies do that by releasing tech to sell(Cash grab my ass).

 

[tvamos]

We are continuing to produce the Radeon RX 5700 series graphics cards, which deliver exceptional 1440p gaming experiences,” AMD told Tom’s Hardware in an email. “We will continue to respond to market demand.”

AMD: 'We are continuing to produce RX 5700 series graphics cards.'

Don’t believe the rumors- RX 5700 isn’t dead yet.

www.tomshardware.com

 

[Luminescent]

I'm off to play squadrons on my vega64 without issues while you have a think, is it me? , Perhaps it is, perhaps I should have been on topic at least once.
You are on about the right company at least,.

Oh and news flash Companies are built to make money, and tech companies do that by releasing tech to sell(Cash grab my ass).

There is a difference, Amd is for getting cash quickly and not delivering product support to the level Nvidia has been doing for years, just take a look in how many places Nvidia put CUDA and how they support it, Amd still plays catch up or they don't care at all.
If you do some light gaming and work like video editing you quickly discover there is better support for Cuda in most plugins and editing programs, even the big ones like Adobe favor Cuda.
The reason you play Star wars squadrons without issues is because it's made by a giant company that has the money to troubleshoot everything, good luck with titles from smaller developers.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

There is a difference, Amd is for getting cash quickly and not delivering product support to the level Nvidia has been doing for years, just take a look in how many places Nvidia put CUDA and how they support it, Amd still plays catch up or they don't care at all.
If you do some light gaming and work like video editing you quickly discover there is better support for Cuda in most plugins and editing programs, even the big ones like Adobe favor Cuda.
The reason you play Star wars squadrons without issues is because it's made by a giant company that has the money to troubleshoot everything, good luck with titles from smaller developers.

Why would AMD support Nvidia's proprietary cuda?.

Now your points about Cuda being supported better on Nvidia and Adobe supported superiority?

Your all over the place bro , still not on topic.

Are we bothered about pro uses which AMD goes with Open standards or game's which I have tried vast amounts of without issues who knows, start a, I hate AMD butthurt thread and stop shit posting here.

None of which is on topic.

Every AMD card I had did Folding @home simulation work on non cuda code without issues for two to three years non stop too so done right open source is fine.

Now try a comment on the 5700 going Eol but not because it isn't.

Your name should have been opaqueifier.

 

[DaveLT]

In my opinion, RDNA is like a stop gap solution. The actual RDNA that AMD wanted to introduce is RDNA2. The first version is like a pipe clearer and also to help AMD regain some market share. In addition, you may also observed that future APUs are going to be RDNA2 which is another indication of it being a temporary solution. So I am not surprised that they will stop production once RDNA2 is introduced across all the market segments. The 5700 series is actually a great GPU, though marred by poor drivers at the onset and took AMD some time to fix most of it. I do observe driver bugs on my Vega GPU, but none that is a show stopper so far.

Yes RDNA is actually a hybrid of Vega and Navi and probably to test the 7nm node

Amd doesn't really compete with Nvidia anymore in enthusiasts or average desktop PC users that want some GPU horse power but not pay a lot.
If you look at the market share they barely exists, so what they release now is the GPU from consoles pushed to the limits with probably very shaky drivers.
It might be a good architecture but for AMD it's a cash grab, a quick way to make some money but no real intention to actually compete with Nvidia.
They mimic some competition but they really don't care, i have a Polaris GPU ( sapphire rx480), bought it 4 years ago and they still didn't fix the fan problem, after some time you hear the fans spinning 100% and then 0, you reset the fans in the drivers and problem pops again after a day or two, it waits for the gpu to hit an absurd temperature, ramps up the fans to 100% then it goes to 0 and waits again.
The fix is custom fan curve but it resets after a day or two.
4 years and still no fix, this is really annoying and i rarely play games, who knows what problems they have in new titles and how much time passes before they fix the bugs.

You're confusing a AIB addition than to AMD actual bios. Congratulations you just made yourself look like a total clown

 

[Luminescent]

Why would AMD support Nvidia's proprietary cuda?.

Now your points about Cuda being supported better on Nvidia and Adobe supported superiority?

I know exactly what i'm talking about, Amd has Opencl and Nvidia Cuda, in almost every productivity application cuda is better supported than Opencl because Nvidia gets involved.
Apple actually took the job to properly optimize for Amd cards but unfortunately they do it exclusively for Mac, they now have Metal Api for Adobe suite.
So windows users are stuck with opencl and poor support from Amd.
It's not enough to have a lot of raw power if you can't use it.
Do you want to talk about Nvenc vs VCE ? another thing Nvidia does better.

You're confusing a AIB addition than to AMD actual bios. Congratulations you just made yourself look like a total clown

Do a google search on the fan problem on AMD cards and then talk about it, genius.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

I know exactly what i'm talking about, Amd has Opencl and Nvidia Cuda, in almost every productivity application cuda is better supported than Opencl because Nvidia gets involved.
Apple actually took the job to properly optimize for Amd cards but unfortunately they do it exclusively for Mac, they now have Metal Api for Adobe suite.
So windows users are stuck with opencl and poor support from Amd.
It's not enough to have a lot of raw power if you can't use it.
Do you want to talk about Nvenc vs VCE ? another thing Nvidia does better.

Do a google search on the fan problem on AMD cards and then talk about it, genius.

Your on a tech forum, we saw fan issues back four years ago with AIB card's.

We also saw recent and past issues with Nvidia and AMD, but none of that shits relevant to this thread.

As I said this is not an AMD butthurt thread, try starting your own moan thread instead of just shit posting irrelevant stuff to a random thread and you will find many to agree or debate with.

Now it's video playback issue thing wtaf, anything else?


So go back to post one , have a read , what's the title say!?.

Is your next post about that?

I'm off to carry on the!Raw power! Use without issues ,chat to yourself if you like, only you know what your point is Anyway.

Though tbh I doubt you do.

 

[INSTG8R]

Do a google search on the fan problem on AMD cards and then talk about it, genius.

I did and found nothing but random fan issues, no specific card or vendor or anything recent.

 

[JustAnEngineer]

Why hasn't the news post been updated with the statement from AMD?

 

[WeeRab]

The RX 5700 is one of the worst cards I've ever owned. I'm no fanboy of either.
I'm all about price/perf.
On paper the 5700 was a good buy, but all the problems I've had with it prove otherwise.

That's pretty weird. I haven't had a single problem with mine (MSI)
Fast, cool-running, reliable.
Best bang-for-buck, bar none.

 

[INSTG8R]

That's pretty weird. I haven't had a single problem with mine (MSI)
Fast, cool-running, reliable.
Best bang-for-buck, bar none.

Same and I actually test Beta Drivers...Sapphire Nitro+

 

[Darmok N Jalad]

I kinda thought this was suspect news. Apple just started putting a variant of the 5700 in their iMacs and MBPs. Sadly, there are user-reported issues there too.

Seems Navi was another design that was maybe pushed a little too far. With the way the cards try to max their clocks on their own, maybe they were doing so a little too aggressively. I hope the 6000 series refines that technology.

 

[thesmokingman]

Why hasn't the news post been updated with the statement from AMD?

Who wants the truth???

ikr?

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

Yeah, I hope so... Since RDNA2 starts with higher tiers, it would be nice that 5700/5600 drop to ~200g, and 5500 to go to hell, where it belongs! Or to 100-something...

At least the RX5500XT isn't pathetic like the RX560.

 

[Andreshoi]

This is NOT true. A Dutch website already contacted Amd about this and it is NOT true.

 

[Chrispy_]

Why hasn't the news post been updated with the statement from AMD?

Because TPU writers are allowed to enjoy a weekend away from work now and again. I suspect it'll be updated on Monday.

it's about time, that's a terrible card, it's a damn heater. besides, it never processed all that well for it's price point.

Your green team bias is showing through a little strong there. The 5700-series was both cheaper than the competition at its price point and offered comparable thermals/efficiency.

Sure, you can find factory overclocked 300W monster 5700XT examples, just as you can find equally stupid power-hungry variants of RTX cards, but stock-vs-stock the 5700 is more power efficient and dumps out less heat than either the 2060 or 2060S it competes with. The XT is pushed harder so suffers a bit but it's still within 10% of the 2070 it handily beats in most situations.

Like me, you can be disappointed that AMD chose to crank TSMC's 7nm process towards peformance rather than efficiency by default, but at least the AMD driver gives you extremely fine control of the voltage curve, clocks, power target, fan speed curve. I can't say I'm particularly happy about Nvidia's complete lack of of official tuning support, nor do I like that the FE cards have awful fan control and sub-par idle noise levels.

I ditched my FE for a AIB RTX card and I'm still not that impressed by the limited control over voltage and fan speed I have using third party utilities. My supposedly 'awful' 5700XT reference card in the HTPC is both faster and quieter than the RTX that I'm typing this on, under any and all situations, which is exactly why I put that card in the cramped HTPC case and connected it to the more demanding 4K TV.

The 5700-series is simply a way better product for the high-resolution, quiet and efficient gaming than either my FE or 3rd-party RTX 2060/2070S and after the insane power draw, stability issues, and unmet expectations of the 3080, I'm really looking forward to see what Big Navi can do at 4K....

Loved my 5700, for $280 it was a steal. I didn't have any issues with it and temps were fine with a nice little undervolt. I was tempted by raytracing and sold it, but i'm psyched for these rdna 2 cards and can't wait to see what they deliver.

I've been wholly underwelmed by every RTX experience I've tried at home. GI (SotTR and ME) has generally been something you only notice in side-by-side screenshots, it's pretty subtle. Reflections in Control and BFV were perhaps the most striking visual difference but the performance hit on my 2060 and 2070S were too much to ask for the graphical improvement. Faked non-RTX reflections and shadows are fine, and I get to run them at 4K60 which is far bigger improvement than some subtle effect tweaks.

Perhaps if I had a 2080Ti I'd have changed my mind but that's literally 3x the price for a feature that isn't in that many games and RTX-ON at $1200 is still barely the performance of a $400 solution with RTX-OFF. I'm sure people who spent big on 2080Ti cards are defensive of their purchasing decisions but I'm telling you that the mainstream RTX experience was a damp squib. You missed out on nothing important, unless you've found a game-changing RTX title that I haven't tried yet....