AMD Launches AMD Ryzen 5000 Series Desktop Processors: The Fastest Gaming CPUs in the World

[Raendor]

And you are blind to see there are no 600 series of chipsets rather just BIOS upgrades to existing 500 and 400 chipsets unlike Intel who always launch new chipsets with each "generation" and their CPU launches tend to be paper launches with non existent supply at exhorbitant prices in retail.

you had z170 and z270 supporting 2 gens, same for z370 and z390 upping the count to 6/12 and 8/16 respectivel. Now z490 will support rocket lake and z590 will support both 10th and 11th gen.
wtf are you talking about paper launch? I could get 10th gen all the time since launch in Europe for msrp. It was cheaper in summer than now actually. Missed on 10700 for €312, which I regret a bit.

 

[Shatun_Bear]

Boost clocks on the 5800X and 3800XT are the same.

Thats a shame.

I get the IPC increase, but a little disappointing.

What in the world. How does boost clocks of two different processors with totally different IPC, design and efficiency have any bearing on you feeling disappointed or not? Strange chap.

 

[AusWolf]

To add to my previous post: I hate when people choose companies - you should choose products and root for healthy competition and AMD now has perfectly shown that when competition falters, customers get punished hard. I've been eagerly waiting for the Ryzen 5000 series but now I'm hesitating whether to upgrade from my 3700X. A performance uplift is great but the cost of the upgrade is not palatable at all. There's no way I will be able to sell my 3700X for $330 I bought it for. At most I'll get $200 for it on the secondary market. Paying $250 to get 20% more performance? I don't know.

It's never worth it to upgrade just 1 generation ahead within the same product category. With a 3700X or above, I would skip Zen 3 altogether, but for me the 5950X will be a huge uplift after the Core i7-7700.

 

[londiste]

The craziest thing is you can slap it in the old b450 board, it's the same as I would replace 7600k with 10600k

Yeah, right.
Starting January, in beta, maybe.
But your comparison is actually apt enough, it is almost like 7600K to 10600K at least until end of the year

Except you are missing that Intel hasn't lowered their pricing.

Intel 10-series tends to sell under MSRP (or RCP, in their case). Both 10700K and 10900K are ~50 moneys under RCP and have been for a little while. 8c/16t 10700K at $350 might be interesting competition to $299 6c/12t 5600X, for example. 10c/20t 10850K at $430 vs 8c/16t 5800X at $449. Interesting how tables have turned.

 

[Shatun_Bear]

They didn't go into details of the per-core overclocking feature, which will basically mean 5950X owners have the option to getting that fabled 5Ghz boost clock on one core through overclocks. 5900X will reach 5Ghz too I'd expect.

 

[AddSub]

Your post may have valid if AMD CPUs didn't sell for 30~50% of their launch MSRP, perhaps even lower for some 1st gen Ryzen or TR chips, not to mention (nearly) 4 gens of chips on the same socket. But hey keep carrying on that cart if it makes you feel any better! The latest & greatest in tech always commands a premium, it's more about what you charge when you kinda don't need to

So my AM4 Gigabyte X370 Gaming 5 is compatible with these Zen3's, or Zen2, or Zen+ even? Yeah, I thought so. The much vaunted AMD "platform longevity" in action.

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[Foxisfire]

Really juicy prices, well, AMD Ryzen 5000 series is now the world leader in gaming performance so if you want the best...

AMD Ryzen 5000 series prices make it possible for Intel to be attractive at fairly high prices. So prices for CPUs will not go down very much any time soon. Intel may lower prices around 15-20% beginning of next year but I think they will keep their current prices levels til xmas.

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NO NEED TO CANCEL YOUR RTX 3080 ORDERS AND IF YOU HAVE NOT ORDERED YOUR RTX 3080 YET, DO IT NOW, IT WILL BE A HEFTY PRICE HIKE FAIRLY SOON.

BIG Navi, not so impressive at 88FPS in Modern Warfare Ultra 4K, this is probably around 3070 or 3070Ti performance.

Checked out the 3080 with i9-10900K, doing well over 100FPS in Modern Warfare Ultra 4K and on top of that 3080 should do even better paired with the Ryzen 5000 series.

It is what it is, with BIG Navi it all comes down to pricing, it will probably hit $499-599 price range depending on memory size and compete with 3070 or 3070Ti.

3080 and 3090 will be the undisputed performance kings in gaming for the foreseeable future and we will probably see an even further price hike of 3080 cards due to no competition in combination with the extreme shortage. The new normal for 3080 partner cards will be around or over the $1000 price tag.

Just too bad BIG Navi wasn't a better performer, now nvidia have no reason to release 3080Ti until Q3 2021

Once again AMD cannot reach all the way up to the high end segment. At this point I do not think they are interested in the high end segment anymore. They repeatedly said that over 80% of GPU sales are in the mid and low end segment so I think their focus will remain there.

Why would you say that now? I would almost guarantee that #1 there is a 3080ti coming in the next 6 months, and #2 AMD has a TON of extra money from supplying the SOCs for the XBOX and PS5 so they have time and the R&D money to tweak the 6800XT (Maybe bin it higher)? and release a better preforming card. If I was the CEO of AMD I 100% wouldn't lay out all my cards on the table. I'm personally going to buy the fastest card under $900 next year. That is the smart thing to do. Not freak out and go buy a 3080 because Nvidia might (big might) increase their pricing on the higher end cards.

 

[JalleR]

Looks interesting i would say, maybe this year will be the year i buy my first AMD Looking forward to the TPU tests.

 

[sergionography]

And you know that from just 3 games that AMD benchmarked and by only comparing in MW?

If you check Eurogamer review of 3080 - They have Borderlands 3 and Gears 5 running on the max settings on 4k. Borderlands 3 - NV is 65 and AMD is 61. Gears 5- NV is 80 and AMD is 73. That is for average.
If you check Hexus review of 3080 - They have Borderlands 3 and Gears 5 running on the max settings on 4k. Borderlands 3 - NV is 60 and AMD is 61. Gears 5- NV is 77 and AMD is 73. That is for average.

So different configuration aside, we can think of the tested Big Navi at around 3080 performance. What we don't know is this the Biggest NAVI or the step down. How much the 3gen Zen helps at 4k?
With all this I recommend even more to wait and see.

AMD does not need to beat a 3080 to be a win. 3080 and 3090 are power hogs, so if amd is about 10% slower but can do it at a 250w TDP for example, then that's a huge win. If anything I really hope AMD does not go way above the power performance sweet spot.

 

[Rhurba]

I am VERY VERY VERY disappointed on the new pricing. It is clear that without competition, the consumer is fked. I started building a new PC some time ago, buying some parts every month in expectation of the new Ryzen 5000 - I bought the new B550 also - now I'm sorry I did that, seeing the new prices. Indeed Intel sucks for keeping the 14 nm++++ so much but, right now, with the new pricing, AMD has become the new Intel. Sad. Very sad.
Just hope that the RDNA2 GPU will be price accordingly - 400-450$... Sad times, companies sucking money out of consumers like this....

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Tbh upgrading every 1 generation has never been a good investment. If you're currently running 1st gen like me (1700X) or 2nd gen, it will be a leap upgrade.

AMD gave you options to make it worthwhile like a progression of 1500X to 2700X to 3800X to 5950X or 2600X 3800X 5950X all big leaps.
I don't really want to spend more on this platform but 8/16 to 16/32 cores with a 26% gain on top, it's got my wallet twitching in fear.

 

[dirtyferret]

RIP Intel.

Pretty sure 5700X or 5800 non-X and a 5600 will launch early next year, once stock of the 3xxx has tapered.

did intel cancel rocket lake and declare bankruptcy?

No reason to upgrade from my R5 3600. Why are they advertising 12 and 16 core CPU's as "gaming" CPU's? Any games out there that know how to use 12 and 16 cores? IF yes, how many of them? A handful?

plants vs zombies?

 

[ebivan]

I am VERY VERY VERY disappointed on the new pricing. It is clear that without competition, the consumer is fked. I started building a new PC some time ago, buying some parts every month in expectation of the new Ryzen 5000 - I bought the new B550 also - now I'm sorry I did that, seeing the new prices. Indeed Intel sucks for keeping the 14 nm++++ so much but, right now, with the new pricing, AMD has become the new Intel. Sad. Very sad.
Just hope that the RDNA2 GPU will be price accordingly - 400-450$... Sad times, companies sucking money out of consumers like this....

Why would you do that? Save up your money and buy all at once. Hardware only ever gets cheaper, why buy stuff and have it lying around?

 

[Mysteoa]

AMD does not need to beat a 3080 to be a win. 3080 and 3090 are power hogs, so if amd is about 10% slower but can do it at a 250w TDP for example, then that's a huge win. If anything I really hope AMD does not go way above the power performance sweet spot.

It maybe a win, but people will just move the goalpost and say that power doesn't matter.

 

[Lionheart]

So my AM4 Gigabyte X370 Gaming 5 is compatible with these Zen3's, or Zen2, or Zen+ even? Yeah, I thought so. The much vaunted AMD "platform longevity" in action.

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Go cry a river, if it's so bad go Intel.

 

[TheLostSwede]

So my AM4 Gigabyte X370 Gaming 5 is compatible with these Zen3's, or Zen2, or Zen+ even? Yeah, I thought so. The much vaunted AMD "platform longevity" in action.

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Seems to work just fine with a 3950X... Zen 3 support was never promised.

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[Toothless]

Eyyy that's a cool launch and birthday present. Too bad even if I got a 5800x I couldn't use it for three months.

 

[Dimi]

Why would I pick a 5800X 8 core if I can buy a 10 core 10850K for the same price? I don't get it.

 

[dragontamer5788]

Why would I pick a 5800X 8 core if I can buy a 10 core 10850K for the same price? I don't get it.

Because the 5800X 8 core has better single-threaded performance.

Woah, this is... weird for me to say that. I feel like I'm in an upside down world or something...

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Why would I pick a 5800X 8 core if I can buy a 10 core 10850K for the same price? I don't get it.

Why would you buy a 10 core when you can get 16 then?!.
Horses course's.

 

[Bytales]

Im more interested in the Threadripper PRO version of the ZEN 3 CPU Core. Any ideas when were going to get that ?

 

[Searing]

Why would you buy a 10 core when you can get 16 then?!.
Horses course's.

The Ryzen 5800X will beat the Intel 10 core in productivity results most likely. All core clocks drop considerably with Intel because of high power draw.

 

[hathoward]

Upgrading from my 6700k to a 5950x is going to be incredible!

 

[Zyll Goliat]

Why would I pick a 5800X 8 core if I can buy a 10 core 10850K for the same price? I don't get it.

newer,smaller 7nm die size,faster IPC,less power consumption........

 

[hardcore_gamer]

The highlight for me was the 2.8X more performance-per-watt versus the 10900k. That's where the ancient 14nm node hurts Intel.