Synology Unveils 6-Bay AMD Ryzen DS1621+ NAS

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Synology Inc. today introduced the next generation 6-bay DiskStation NAS, the DS1621+, designed for high-performance data storage and management. A compact powerhouse, the DS1621+ enables content creators and businesses to store and protect large quantities of data effortlessly. The DS1621+ is by far the most powerful Plus series yet. Its quad-core AMD Ryzen processor features the next-generation "Zen" architecture, delivering over 2x more processing power.

"Our customers, more than ever, are relying on Synology storage solutions to store and directly utilize critical data, whether for business or personal use," said Hewitt Lee, Director of Synology Product Management Group. "DS1621+ is designed to be a versatile solution that empowers content creators and collectors by not only providing fast, reliable, and high-capacity storage, but also simplifying IT with effortless backups for PCs and virtual machines."





Its dual M.2 2280 slots allow NVMe SSD caching to boost performance by 20x or more for commonly accessed data. The DS1621+ also supports an optional 10 GbE NIC3 for faster network environments and more concurrent users.

Whether you are a content creator, IT administrator, or just someone with plenty of files to store, the DS1621+ provides 6 drive bays, with expansion up to 16 bays using expansion units for truly large file libraries. Support for ECC memory and data integrity features built into the heart of the operating system, DiskStation Manager (DSM), means your data is in good hands.

DSM comes with a variety of backup and restoration solutions that cover the most common situations. Snapshot Replication creates schedulable point-in-time recovery points, allowing easy ways to roll-back unintended file edits or even ransomware encryption.

For additional off-site protection, Synology Hyper Backup enables simple, schedulable protection to keep your data backed up to Synology NAS, Synology C2 cloud storage, and other public cloud providers.

The DS1621+ can also be used to protect data from other sources. Active Backup for Business allows centralized backup from external infrastructure such as PCs, virtual machines, and Google G Suite and Microsoft 365 SaaS.

Synology NAS is more than just storage. Utilizing DSM's application ecosystem, the possibilities for data management are endless.

Want to take back control of your data? Synology Drive transforms the DS1621+ into a private cloud, with no recurring fees. Share your files across LAN environments, multiple sites, and intelliversioning lets users jump back in time to recover older file versions. Clients are available for mobile, desktop, web and other Synology NAS, allowing you more ways to access your data.

Catalog your pictures and videos in new ways with Synology Moments. Using machine learning algorithms, facial recognition, and geotag information, Moments automatically groups photos by person, location, and subjects. Built with collaboration in mind, users can edit alone, or share photos with others, allowing them to edit together. The companion mobile app enables effortless photo and video backup from your mobile devices.

Availability

DS1621+ is available today from Synology resellers and partners globally, together with an option for up to 5-years warranty.

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[TheLostSwede]

So still nothing faster than a gigabit Ethernet port as standard? Seriously Synology?

 

[Deleted member 24505]

So still nothing faster than a gigabit Ethernet port as standard? Seriously Synology?

What would be faster a C port?

 

[Gungar]

So still nothing faster than a gigabit Ethernet port as standard? Seriously Synology?

The XS version has a 10gb port.

 

[TheLostSwede]

What would be faster a C port?

Eh? Who's talking about USB?

 

[londiste]

The XS version has a 10gb port.

Link too: DS1621xs+
DS1621xs+ price seems to be ~1700€ vs DS1621+ at 900€, so that part is not nice.

On the other hand, DS1621+ has the PCIe slot so lack of 10GBe could be resolved using that.

 

[windwhirl]

So still nothing faster than a gigabit Ethernet port as standard? Seriously Synology?

According to the product page, it has four ports and can handle link aggregation? Shouldn't that mitigate the issue somewhat?

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[TheLostSwede]

According to the product page, it has four ports and can handle link aggregation? Shouldn't that mitigate the issue somewhat?

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Ah, the reoccurring "link aggregation" answer. No, it doesn't, at least not in any SoHo/home type installation at least. You're going to need at least 4-5 clients accessing the NAS simultaneously for link aggregation to make any difference whatsoever.
I have tested this a few times and always end up with the same results. It also requires a fairly costly managed switch, as if you can't set up the correct type of link aggregation in the switch, it won't do anything at all.
The clients don't gain anything from link aggregation, even if you have two NICs in your PC that supports link aggregation, the network won't utilize more than 1Gbps between two devices. Don't ask me why it works like this, it's just how it is.

 

[mamisano]

So still nothing faster than a gigabit Ethernet port as standard? Seriously Synology?

They list optional 10gb NICs on their product page.

• single port add-in 10gb NIC (RJ45) , $130.99 on Amazon.
• dual port add-in 10gb NIC (RJ45), $269.99 on Amazon
• dual port add-in 10gb NIC (SFP+), $249.99 on Amazon

 

[windwhirl]

Ah, the reoccurring "link aggregation" answer. No, it doesn't, at least not in any SoHo/home type installation at least. You're going to need at least 4-5 clients accessing the NAS simultaneously for link aggregation to make any difference whatsoever.
I have tested this a few times and always end up with the same results. It also requires a fairly costly managed switch, as if you can't set up the correct type of link aggregation in the switch, it won't do anything at all.
The clients don't gain anything from link aggregation, even if you have two NICs in your PC that supports link aggregation, the network won't utilize more than 1Gbps between two devices. Don't ask me why it works like this, it's just how it is.

Joting down link aggregation as useless feature 99% of the time, then.

They list optional 10gb NICs on their product page.

• single port add-in 10gb NIC (RJ45) , $130.99 on Amazon.
• dual port add-in 10gb NIC (RJ45), $269.99 on Amazon
• dual port add-in 10gb NIC (SFP+), $249.99 on Amazon

Interesting. Still, considering the kind of price this product probably commands, it's disappointing that there isn't even 2.5 Gb Ethernet support out of the box.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Interesting. Still, considering the kind of price this product probably commands, it's disappointing that there isn't even 2.5 Gb Ethernet support out of the box.

Exactly!

 

[Octavean]

I agree that its high time that 2.5GbE or 5GbE be implemented at least alongside the typical 1GbE. The option to upgrade is something but it isn't a trivial upgrade with respect to cost with Synology hardware.

Link Aggregation (LAG) be damned. One fair point, while you need a suitable switch for (LAG), the same is true of 2.5GbE, 5GbE and 10GbE (and higher).

FWIW, I have an old QNAP TS-451+ NAS with a QNAP QNA-UC5G1T USB 3.2 Gen 1 to 5GbE adapter (AQC111U controller) and it was cheaper and is faster.

There is also a hacked drivers that allow support for 2.5GbE and 5GbE USB NIC support on Synology NAS models but no one wants an ugly hack on a NAS. I wouldn't risk my old Synology DS1815+ with such a hack.

Synology needs to better faster solutions that are a bit more cost effective,....

 

[Spencer LeBlanc]

The sad thing is, this AMD chip has built in dual 10Gb network on the die.. So why wouldn't they build it on the SOC board..

https://www.amd.com/en/products/embedded-ryzen-v1000-series

 

[Owen1982]

For general windows folder sharing over the network "SMB Multichannel" is an option. Need multiple interfaces on any clients of course. And 10G is simpler & faster obviously. But it's possible for 1 device to get more than 1Gbit throughput with a single transfer using multiple 1 gbit links with SMB Multichannel. If doing iSCSI then MPIO is easy to setup also.

 

[lemonadesoda]

I am also not keen on Link Aggregation. But the alternative of 10Gb links, 10Gb switch, and 10Gb clients is an infrastructure cost FAR BEYOND the cost of a little Soho NAS. Leave that to enterprise - and synology have enterprise models too.

 

[TxGrin]

i used USB 3.0 Type-C to 5GbE Adapter (QNA-UC5G1T) by QNAP on my Synology DS to get 5Gb connection. It's much faster than Link Aggregation and cheaper than the 10Gb option.

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[windwhirl]

I am also not keen on Link Aggregation. But the alternative of 10Gb links, 10Gb switch, and 10Gb clients is an infrastructure cost FAR BEYOND the cost of a little Soho NAS. Leave that to enterprise - and synology have enterprise models too.

If you're willing to invest (if Newegg is to be believed) 800 dollars for a NAS with no drives, I think you can afford one switch with at least two 10 Gb ports. Qnap has a couple switches under 300 dollars that offer 2 or 4 RJ45 10 Gb ports, if you don't want to go with fiber, even. They even have one with 5 Rj45 2.5 Gb ports, for under USD 150 if you don't have that many devices. And Cat 6 cables aren't expensive, if you need them.

I get your point about the clients, though, since it's not common to have 2.5/5/10 Gb Ethernet onboard yet. You can find 2.5 Gb on some mid-class boards using B550 or B460, but that's as low as it goes. 10 Gb is usually found only in high-end boards (Threadripper or X299, mostly)...

 

[cleverest]

If you're willing to invest (if Newegg is to be believed) 800 dollars for a NAS with no drives, I think you can afford one switch with at least two 10 Gb ports. Qnap has a couple switches under 300 dollars that offer 2 or 4 RJ45 10 Gb ports, if you don't want to go with fiber, even. They even have one with 5 Rj45 2.5 Gb ports, for under USD 150 if you don't have that many devices. And Cat 6 cables aren't expensive, if you need them.

I get your point about the clients, though, since it's not common to have 2.5/5/10 Gb Ethernet onboard yet. You can find 2.5 Gb on some mid-class boards using B550 or B460, but that's as low as it goes. 10 Gb is usually found only in high-end boards (Threadripper or X299, mostly)...

I roll my eyes to the remark that by affording to spend $800 on a DS1621+ that means a person can afford a dual-port 10Gbe switch. That simply isn't true. I just ordered this NAS due to a small windfall I received, and I'm super happy about that, but I still can't afford to make my home network 10Gbe capable. I wish.