NVIDIA is Working on Technology Similar to AMD's Smart Access Memory

SIGSEGV · Nov 14, 2020

bug said:
loved AMD simply because they were the underdog

nope, you're 1000000% wrong. I love their tech revolution to fight the greed (closed ecosystem)

mtcn77 · Nov 14, 2020

SIGSEGV said:
fight the greed

Greed? You think any of this would surface if left to Nvidia? Same with tesselators, when AMD finds things they are buried... greed is your only option it will ever see the light of day.

Forza.Milan · Nov 14, 2020

nvidia claim supporting it, so it is clear, only running on spesific platform, mobo, cpu, etc..
the question is, will it amplied the performance?
and why only on ampere? thats another question :kookoo:

wolf · Nov 14, 2020

$ReaPeR$ said:
I will gladly overpay for AMD products

$ReaPeR$ said:
the greed camp

$ReaPeR$ said:
nshitia

$ReaPeR$ said:
crapple

Clearly a level headed, rational, vendor agnostic approach, where bang for buck, quality products and a top tier experience reigns supreme.

wait

Fluffmeister · Nov 14, 2020

wolf said:
Clearly a level headed, rational, vendor agnostic approach, where bang for buck, quality products and a top tier experience reigns supreme.

wait

I get told off by the mods for far less

bug · Nov 15, 2020

z1n0x said:
So people give AMD shit for restricting it to Ryzen 5000, but a pass to Nvidia for only enabling it on Ampere, even though it been part of the PCIe spec. for a long time.
Don't you just love them double standards, always good for laughs.

I fail to see the double standard, AMD also restricts this feature to the latest GPU generation.
It's actually not a restriction, GPUs must have built-in support for the feature, if I understood correctly.

Blueberries · Nov 15, 2020

bug said:
In a way this could be a G-Sync/FreeSync in reverse.

Yeah I predict SAM will become open with "limited support" on older generation CPUs with future driver updates.

FinneousPJ · Nov 15, 2020

And who's to say AMD cannot expand the compatibility with future updates if nvidia can? Odd assumption there.

Nephilim666 · Nov 15, 2020

AnarchoPrimitiv said:
The very fact that your complaining about not getting an extra theoretical 2%-10% of performance with a graphics card you don't even own is ridiculous.

No one owns these yet. I have an AMD TRX40 system with a Vega 64, I have given plenty of my hard earned to this company, only to be told that a new feature of their GPUs is going to be artificially restricted to their latest CPUs which have the exact same IO die as the previous gen just rubs me the wrong way. There is absolutely no reason to not enable it on Zen 2. I will just compare performance between RX6900 without SAM and an RTX3090 with whatever NVIDIA make work with my system and make a rational reasoned decision.

Mussels · Nov 15, 2020

To be honest they may well roll the feature back to older hardware like the 3000 and 4000 series CPUs and even the 400 series boards once AGESA updates come out... but they'd want to do internal testing and be sure it WORKS, unlike that oopsie where they rolled out PCI-E 4.0 to mobos and had to undo it.

Nephilim666 · Nov 15, 2020

Mussels said:
To be honest they may well roll the feature back to older hardware like the 3000 and 4000 series CPUs and even the 400 series boards once AGESA updates come out... but they'd want to do internal testing and be sure it WORKS, unlike that oopsie where they rolled out PCI-E 4.0 to mobos and had to undo it.

Yes, but in that case the hardware varied. In this case the parts interfacing with the GPU (IO die and whatever traces etc are on the motherboard) are no different to the 5000 series.

bug · Nov 15, 2020

FinneousPJ said:
And who's to say AMD cannot expand the compatibility with future updates if nvidia can? Odd assumption there.

I think they will. I guessed above they only went for one particular GPU series so they could shorten their TTM.
But in a world where every post about Nvidia (or Intel) causes knee jerk reactions, I think it's worth pointing out when the company everybody loves to hate happens to take the high road.

mechtech · Nov 16, 2020

Chrispy_ said:
I don't care if it's blatant copying. As long as us consumers get cool, new stuff to play with, I'm good. Everyone knows who did it first, even if Apple will claim they invented it themselves a few years from now....

Of course, didn't Apple invent the radius, and round edge and all that?!?!

bug · Nov 16, 2020

mechtech said:
Of course, didn't Apple invent the radius, and round edge and all that?!?!

Nope. Apple invented the invention.

SIGSEGV · Nov 16, 2020

bug said:
But in a world where every post about Nvidia (or Intel) causes knee jerk reactions

the basic laws of physics

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NVIDIA is Working on Technology Similar to AMD's Smart Access Memory

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