NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti Confirmed, Beats RTX 2080 SUPER

[bug]

100% agree! Now with the new consoles out with 8-core Ryzen, 16GB of RAM plus ~2080ti equivalent GPU for only $500, paying $100 less JUST for a GPU that has less performance is ridiculous. Both Nvidia and AMD will need to adjust prices next year when console stocks are healthy otherwise it'll be 2007 again when PC was considered dead.

Every time a new console generation is released, PC gaming is declared dead. Mostly by people who don't understand the differences between platforms.

 

[Tomorrow]

will be priced double when it arrives locally

2080S performance for 2080S price. I can already see it happening.

 

[redeye]

Every time a new console generation is released, PC gaming is declared dead. Mostly by people who don't understand the differences between platforms.

ok. problem is a rx5700xt has 36cu’s. an xbox 1 series x has more. a ps5 has the same number, but faster clock rate, better ssd than computers (for now) more ram than off the rack computers...

actually it is “dead” this time... a xbox 1 series X has 50% more CU’s than a rx5700xt... so in order to “beat” it you need at least a rx6800... (i will be getting a rx6800xt and a ps5 (a ps5, all about the games I have... a rx6800xt, because I am f**kn annoyed at Nvidia, ))

 

[droopyRO]

Actually back then I did 2042x1536 @ 85hz sooo yeah not to mention that HD6950 was also build for the future with its 2gb of Vram etc, today that would cost 400 euro as well, but it didn't, it cost 200, 200 for a videocard is fine, heck even 300 I can live with...but 800...for an ok-ish videocard? really?

Also because resolution goes up and games become more demanding...the gpus should also cost more?

I mean that is why Im buying A NEW GPU in the first place and not sticking with the old thing forever right?
The problem is that the new gpu for the sku has completely jumped in price to imo rediculous levels.

And I do feel I have to emphasis the "imo" here, if the current prices is not issue for you, great, but for me its heavily been withholding me from upgrading, its not that I cant afford it, I just dont want to pay that much for IMO relatively not blazingly impressive performance

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I see a custom HD6950 was 300$ in 2011.
In 2560x1600( for me it was "4K" back in the day) it got about 45 fps in STALKER 2 or Bad Company 2.

PowerColor Radeon RX 5600 XT Red Dragon Review

PowerColor's Radeon RX 5600 XT Red Dragon is a factory-overclocked custom-design with 14 Gbps memory that is among the fastest 5600 XTs out there. Its dual-fan, dual-slot cooler works well: temperatures are good, noise levels are impressive, and idle-fan stop is included, too.

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In 4K today with a 5600XT that is also about 300$ you get about the same frame rate in modern games.

I don't see a price hike comparing resolutions, games and GPUs from ten years ago to today.

 

[bug]

ok. problem is a rx5700xt has 36cu’s. an xbox 1 series x has more. a ps5 has the same number, but faster clock rate, better ssd than computers (for now) more ram than off the rack computers...

actually it is “dead” this time... a xbox 1 series X has 50% more CU’s than a rx5700xt... so in order to “beat” it you need at least a rx6800... (i will be getting a rx6800xt and a ps5 (a ps5, all about the games I have... a rx6800xt, because I am f**kn annoyed at Nvidia, ))

No, the problem is you people don't understand differences.
Consoles are sold at a loss, PC parts aren't.
Consoles will look exactly the same 5 years from now, PC won't.

Comparing between the two is an exercise in futility.

 

[Slizzo]

PowerColor HD 6950 Vortex II 2 GB Review

PowerColor's new HD 6950 Vortex II comes with a seriously improved thermal solution compared to the AMD reference design. It also offers two adjustable fans that can be configured to make maximum use of available space. Clock speeds have been increased too, and the card was able to be modded to...

www.techpowerup.com

I see a custom HD6950 was 300$ in 2011.
In 2560x1600( for me it was "4K" back in the day) it got about 45 fps in STALKER 2 or Bad Company 2.

PowerColor Radeon RX 5600 XT Red Dragon Review

PowerColor's Radeon RX 5600 XT Red Dragon is a factory-overclocked custom-design with 14 Gbps memory that is among the fastest 5600 XTs out there. Its dual-fan, dual-slot cooler works well: temperatures are good, noise levels are impressive, and idle-fan stop is included, too.

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In 4K today with a 5600XT that is also about 300$ you get about the same frame rate in modern games.

I don't see a price hike comparing resolutions, games and GPUs from ten years ago to today.

$300 in 2011 is a hair under $350 today.

I swear, for most people it's as if inflation weren't a thing.

 

[redeye]

No, the problem is you people don't understand differences.
Consoles are sold at a loss, PC parts aren't.
Consoles will look exactly the same 5 years from now, PC won't.

Comparing between the two is an exercise in futility.

what do you mean “you people”, lol. (back in canada, our “national icon” Don Cherry got fired for saying that... (of. course not in reference to tech stuff...)

 

[bug]

what do you mean “you people”, lol. (back in canada, our “national icon” Don Cherry got fired for saying that... (of. course not in reference to tech stuff...)

You know what I mean. There's a whole bunch of those that insist on finding similarities between consoles and PC.
They can both play games, movies and surf the net. Other than that, they live in different worlds.

 

[droopyRO]

$300 in 2011 is a hair under $350 today.

I swear, for most people it's as if inflation weren't a thing.

In countries like mine 300$ were way more compared to the average wage ten years ago than what are today. Also in Europe we have VAT of about 24% and that 1 USD was 3.2 RON in 2011 and now one USD is 4.2 RON. Or that the average wage in 2011 was 1400 RON and it is now 3100 RON.

So, back then i would have paid 1150 RON out of an average of 1400 RON and now i would pay 1500 RON out of 3100 average monthly wage/salary. Almost an average monthly salary 10 years ago or about half today.

 

[bug]

In countries like mine 300$ were way more compared to the average wage ten years ago than what are today. Also in Europe we have VAT of about 24% and that 1 USD was 3.2 RON in 2011 and now one USD is 4.2 RON. Or that the average wage in 2011 was 1400 RON and it is now 3100 RON.

So, back then i would have paid 1150 RON out of an average of 1400 RON and now i would pay 1500 RON out of 3100 average monthly wage/salary. Almost an average monthly salary 10 years ago or about half today.

Yours is a particular situation, but what you are describing is defined here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purchasing_power_parity
Incidentally, goods tends to be more expensive in smaller/poorer markets, because they move fewer SKUs and don't benefit from economy of scale that much. But we're way off-topic now.

 

[NoJuan999]

what do you mean “you people”, lol. (back in canada, our “national icon” Don Cherry got fired for saying that... (of. course not in reference to tech stuff...)

You didn't happen to be at Loblaws on Remembrance Day by any chance, did you.
Apparently some people (referring to Anyone who is so easily offended) need to grow thicker skins, Eh ?

Back on Topic:
I paid $400 for my RTX 2060 Super and I am very happy with it.
It performs as well as most (and even better than some) 5700XT's / RTX 2070's in every benchmark I have run.
In a few years I will probably buy an RTX 3060 Ti or it's AMD equivalent and I'm pretty sure that I will be just as happy

 

[dirtyferret]

VCZ is predicting $399.

Nvidia is bragging about performance of their mid tier cards but they are priced like high end cards.

Sold out...

you can always get it on ebay for a minor price increase

 

[bug]

Nvidia is bragging about performance of their mid tier cards but they are priced like high end cards.

I'm struggling with that, too, but looking at this objectively, we went from:
6500, 6600, 6700, 6800(Ultra)
to
1660, 1660Ti, 2060, 2060 Super, 2070, 2070 Super, 2080, 2080 Super
And that's disregarding a myriad of cards sold as even lower end.

Not only is it harder now to divide cards simply into low-, mid- and high-end, the x60 has obviously shifted its position in the lineup.

 

[redeye]

problem with this rumour is that the ti models (1050ti,1660ti, 2080ti) are all full chips, not cut down. so how can this gtx3060ti use the same 3070 chip, with 38 in use... so the “real” name should be gtx3060?

IMO, my gtx1660ti is remarkably “fast” so mush so, that i am really annoyed that my (once working) 2080 was only able to acheive 40 fps in 4k on a certain section of GTAV, when my Overclocked, watercooled gtx 1660ti (2115, 7000) can do the same, with the same settings!... at 30fps. (ok, i once noticed that the 2080 did 45, but it was not stable...) so a GTX2080 is only 50% “better” than a gtx1660ti? but it is/was almost three times more expensive, retail.

 

[ShyGuy2]

ok. problem is a rx5700xt has 36cu’s. an xbox 1 series x has more. a ps5 has the same number, but faster clock rate, better ssd than computers (for now) more ram than off the rack computers...

actually it is “dead” this time... a xbox 1 series X has 50% more CU’s than a rx5700xt... so in order to “beat” it you need at least a rx6800... (i will be getting a rx6800xt and a ps5 (a ps5, all about the games I have... a rx6800xt, because I am f**kn annoyed at Nvidia, ))

And next gen console's still can't compete with PC's

Paper spec's mean nothing when they use different gaming engines kid

 

[Octavean]

If I can find an RTX 3060Ti for $399 USD MSRP from a reputable dealer before the holiday season then I'm all in!!!

It would have been better priced at ~$350 or even ~$379 but IMO ~$399 is acceptable.

The reality on the ground will likely be that the scalpers will swarm and you won't be able to touch one of these cards for anything less then at least twice the price. So ~$800 to ~$1200 or wait until early to mid 2021. If not maybe we'll be able to buy one at MSRP once nVidia releases the RTX 4000 series,....maybe,...

 

[redeye]

And next gen console's still can't compete with PC's

Paper spec's mean nothing when they use different gaming engines kid

whatever.

two posts in, and you are insulting people already...

 

[R0H1T]

Not only is it harder now to divide cards simply into low-, mid- and high-end, the x60 has obviously shifted its position in the lineup.

Die size, always a good & fairly reliable indicator.

 

[dirtyferret]

whatever.

two posts in, and you are insulting people already...

maybe the guy is not so shy

 

[bug]

Die size, always a good & fairly reliable indicator.

All 3 RDNA2 cards are built from the same die, the 3 Ampere cards are built from two dies. Good luck using that as an indicator

 

[Chrispy_]

I'm going to wait for real reviews.

Nvidia has now proved with the 3080 launch that their pre-launch promises for this generation aren't true until you add a whole bunch of caveats that make them meaningless.

Sure, they're fast, but they're nowhere near as fast as people were expecting, based on the lofty claims. Is the 3060Ti going to be faster than a 2080S in general, or just when DLSS is enabled. What about popular games? Three of the four games chosen are console ports, and two of them have particulary quirky performance as a side of poor optimisation. I'm taking the performance slide with a huge pinch of salt and healthy dose of scepticism.

 

[bug]

I'm going to wait for real reviews.

Nvidia has now proved with the 3080 launch that their pre-launch promises for this generation aren't true until you add a whole bunch of caveats that make them meaningless.

Sure, they're fast, but they're nowhere near as fast as people were expecting, based on the lofty claims. Is the 3060Ti going to be faster than a 2080S in general, or just when DLSS is enabled. What about popular games? Three of the four games chosen are console ports, and two of them have particulary quirky performance as a side of poor optimisation. I'm taking the performance slide with a huge pinch of salt and healthy dose of scepticism.

I'm not sure what promises you read, but the 3070 is a 2080Ti with better perf/W. Anything in particular let you down?

 

[Caring1]

$300 in 2011 is a hair under $350 today.

I swear, for most people it's as if inflation weren't a thing.

Where's your math for calculating that?
There's more than inflation at play here, they're not selling the same old product for higher prices.

 

[plat]

you can always get it on ebay for a minor price increase

Today, I noticed Amazon had various variants of the rtx 3070 in stock! Only catch: 999 USD for an MSI Triple Fan and similar outrages. Best Buy's online store is still pricing them at msrp but they're all sold out. 6 of one half dozen of the other.

So, having seen the gamut of ridiculousness for the 3070-3090, I don't expect anything differently for the 3060ti. I still want one, though.

 

[phanbuey]

2080S performance for 2080S price. I can already see it happening.

The current market is all sorts of messed up. But yeah not worth it at all