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It's not gonna happen in any century because "socialism" doesn't work. Milton Friedman was right. I don't really want to get into an argument about capitalism, so I'll just leave it at that. There's a good interview with him here if you haven't heard of him.
Yeah because capitalism does, right :rolleyes:

I don't care who that guy is & what he said, unfettered Capitalism today is as much if not much more of an evil than what the western world thought Socialism was or could ever be! And by "some form of" Socialism I mean something like Universal healthcare not textbook everything owned by the big bad govt kind. I'm sure major part of the reason other Western nations are doing slightly or much better than the US right now is because of that. Or universal basic income, to make sure the marginalized & the most vulnerable don't die of huger or any other ailments which are totally preventable!

Yeah because you have absolutely no leg to stand on! Have you been living under a rock for the last 30-40 years? Do you understand why China is in a position where it is today? You really think China is socialist? Must be nice living in your own bubble :ohwell:

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Yeah because capitalism does, right :rolleyes:

I don't care who that guy is & what he said, unfettered Capitalism today is as much if not much more of an evil than what the western world thought Socialism was or could ever be! And by "some form of" Socialism I mean something like Universal healthcare not textbook everything owned by the big bad govt kind. I'm sure major part of the reason other Western nations are doing slightly or much better than the US right now is because of that. Or universal basic income, to make sure the marginalized & the most vulnerable don't die of huger or any other ailments which are totally preventable!

Yeah because you have absolutely no leg to stand on! Have you been living under a rock for the last 30-40 years? Do you understand why China is in a position where it is today? You really think China is socialist? Must be nice living in your own bubble :ohwell:

Ex-Apple employees say company ignored China labor-law violations

The US Trade Commission and a group of 46 states accuse Facebook of using its dominance to crush smaller rivals.

Justice Dept. files long-awaited antitrust suit against Google

Telegram files EU antitrust complaint against Apple's App Store

House: Amazon, Facebook, Apple, Google have “monopoly power,” should be split
So you didn't even care to watch that interview or inform yourself about him? But you took the time to compose this shitty reply? You don't think knowing about the most famous economist in history is even important or something you should care about? Feel free to remain stupid. I can't help people like you. You people don't even want to listen. Nobody can help someone who lacks all common sense.

China on the brink of collapse omg so funny I spat coffee on my tablet. :roll:
That's exactly what people thought about the Soviet Union before 1989. Just keep believing in the bubble.
 
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And that's based on your opinion of him or does like more than 50% of the world also share that opinion? Yeah keep that BS to yourself, Gandhi didn't get a Nobel peace prize & Henry (ef)F(in) Kissinger did ~ what does that tell you :rolleyes:

I'm surprised you're staking your forum cred on someone you don't even know. With the events unfolding right in front of your eyes, over last so many decades, you'd have to be either blind or willfully ignorant to see what (unfettered) Capitalism has done! I'm betting the latter :ohwell:
 
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Well, I don't really care what IBM thinks. IBM may just have gotten a sweet deal from Apple like "You (IBM) endorse our products, we (Apple) will give you a shitload of Macbooks for next to nothing (or for the price of comparable, regular priced hardware at least)". We don't know. Btw, Apple has been doing exactly that with filmmakers for product placement in their movie and TV productions for decades (just google "apple product placement").
What do product placements and ads have to do with studies? I don't think you even care about numbers. Or the classic "it's rigged" argument comes out immediately when the numbers show a different reality. What does IBM have to even gain from rigging numbers for Apple? Don't you think that their image as an honest consultancy is far more important to them than helping out another company for some illicit cash? You're actually suggesting that? And how would they even hide this from their own employees? Do you think they would furthermore ever even consider sacrificing their own employee's productivity for a "sweet deal" from Apple?

Sure..... whatever you say. :wtf: :kookoo: :banghead: :rolleyes:

People who don't actually care or want to allow numbers that contradict them into their reality, always seem to gravitate immediately to delusion and conspiracy instead of accepting the truth of the numbers that are in front of them.

So if you would just assume that the numbers are true, at least for a nanosecond, wouldn't you want to rationally own a Mac for significantly better productivity?

Also, I don't force my wife to do anything. She decides what hardware she gets from a list of possible hardware that her employer supplies and then buys for her. Furthermore I don't know how you come to believe that my wife needs any kind of tech support from me. She is a professional consultant in automotive software development and works for a German car company. She certainly doesn't need support from me. I hope that was not some kind of "woman don't know anything about tech" remark!
Don't worry, I always encourage women and my own girlfriend to be more tech-savvy. I'm just surprised how involved you seem to be in her personal notebook buying decision. Don't tell me that she didn't at least feel a bit obliged to maybe go against her own self-interest just to not hear the bitching about it for the next 10 years if she did go against your hate for Macs and buy a Mac. ;)


And that's based on your opinion of him or does like more than 50% of the world also share that opinion? Yeah keep that BS to yourself, Gandhi didn't get a Nobel peace prize & Henry (ef)F(in) Kissinger did ~ what does that tell you :rolleyes:
I don't know how old you are, but Milton Friedman is widely acknowledged as the most famous economist of our lifetime. The fact that most people don't know any other economist's name than his speaks volumes. Usually, I wouldn't even have to argue this. But you seem too young to even know who he was... Not to mention that he just died in 2006. Here's a quote from the Federal Reserve's economic journal on his 90th birthday:

"If asked to name a famous economist, most Americans would probably say Milton Friedman. Economists usually make their contributions behind the scenes at think tanks, government agencies or universities. Friedman has done that, but he also has taken his ideas and policy proposals directly to his fellow citizens through books, magazine columns and, especially, television. It is not an exaggeration to say he has been the most influential American economist of the past century. He has changed policy not only here at home but also in many other nations, as much of the world has moved away from economic controls and toward economic freedom."

Source: https://www.dallasfed.org/~/media/documents/research/ei/ei0202.pdf

I doubt they write this for anyone.

I'm surprised you're staking your forum cred on someone you don't even know.
Forum cred? Ok, you must really be young if you care about these things. Not to offend you because you're young. Just because you're ignorant and probably easily manipulated if you're young.

With the events unfolding right in front of your eyes, over last so many decades, you'd have to be either blind or willfully ignorant to see what (unfettered) Capitalism has done! I'm betting the latter :ohwell:
If you think this, it just proves that you have no idea about capitalism. Or history. Again, I really don't want to get into an argument about capitalism. There's still that interview with him that I posted if you care to listen to an actually good and important economist. But if you still don't want to listen because you don't care, at least stop spreading this trash around the internet like a mindless socialist zombie.


So you don't actually know any figures huh
Do you think you can trust any numbers coming out of China? How naive can you be? Everything gets changed and manipulated before it comes out of their mouth. You can't trust anything a one-party-system spews out. It's like trusting what either the Democrats or Republicans would say about their own job if the other party just disappeared. If it's already this bad in America, I don't want to know how bad the manipulation of information is that comes out of China.
Nope, they were ass holes. Doing everything to waste your time outside your working hours. I can also tell the difference between paying me more and not treating me like crap, thank you very much.
Continue living in denial. It's your freedom, I guess.
That's not relevant to me writing an essay in a class in high school
Wait, how are you still in high school and working for all these companies around the world? You even said that you grew up in New Zealand and are still in high school there. How can you possibly know so much about what other factories pay and the conditions in them? Sounds like a young troll trying to say anything positive about China without possibly being able to say anything real with first-hand experience. Where are you getting the number about wages of Chinese companies compared to Foxconn? From those trustworthy Chinese statistics? Trusting your word on this makes no sense.


Claims from an IBM employee at a conference for Apple IT admins =/= a study.

"There are 22% more macOS users who exceeded expectations in performance reviews, compared to Windows users."
Correlation does not imply causation. What's to say that the Mac users weren't already higher performing and just happen to prefer Macs to PC?

"High-value sales deals tend to be 16% larger for macOS users, compared to Windows users."
Correlation does not imply causation. Again, we have no way of knowing that it's the Macs that are leading to these higher-value sales.

"macOS users are 17% less likely to leave IBM, compared to those who use Windows."
Correlation does not imply causation. Are you sensing a pattern here? You can't conclude that Macs are the reason that people are less likely to leave IBM.

"MacOS users are happier with the third-party software availability within IBM — just 5% of macOS users ask for additional software, compared to 11% of Windows users."
And...wait for it...correlation does not imply causation. With Windows making up a significantly larger percentage of the worldwide OS usage (https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide), it can be assumed that developers are more likely to develop programs compatible with Windows. Larger target audience means greater downloads/sales. Less third party software options to choose from could certainly yield less requests for 3rd party software on the Mac side of things.
This was actual fucking research! I can't believe you couldn't even do a google search for it before posting this drivel back. This is not a fucking opinion. You don't buy another 200.000 Macs purely based on an opinion. They happened to have the perfect conditions for a study like this with around the same use of Mac and PC across the company at the time of the study. Who else is doing the research?

More articles on this:
Forrester Research and IBM Studies Show Macs Are Cheaper than PCs
"Although the Forrester Research study found that the upfront acquisition cost of Macs was indeed $500 higher than comparable PCs, when additional factors were taken into account, Macs ended up costing about $50 less."

IBM Announces Research Showing Mac Enables Greater Productivity and Employee Satisfaction at IBM
"Findings affirm that offering choice delivers strategic value in addition to IT efficiency and lower total cost of ownership"

Latest IBM Study Confirms Apple's Mac Are Better Than Windows In IT Workplace
"IBM started to embrace the Mac platform and other Apple systems when it launched the Mac@IBM scheme in 2015. During that deployment, IBM has seen over 1,900 Mac devices deployment per week. By 2016, IBM had amassed more than 90,000 Mac machines deployed."
 
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I doubt they write this for anyone.
I doubt America represents more than 5% of the world's opinion but perhaps closer to 50% of the most vocal opinions? If that's your counter then you can have your cake & eat it, America is not the rest of the world.
Forum cred? Ok, you must really be young if you care about these things. Not to offend you because you're young. Just because you're ignorant and probably easily manipulated if you're young.
Really ignorant? So your argument to the links I provided showing where Capitalism has led us, btw Apple's not as benevolent as you're trying to make them ~ is hey go read this Milton Friedman guy? Wow like I said you live in your own bubble.
But if you still don't want to listen because you don't care, at least stop spreading this trash around the internet like a mindless socialist zombie.
And you can keep that opinion in your pocket, stop spreading BS about what I said ~ when I clearly laid out what I meant by "some form of" socialism. If you have so much issues with the S word you can stop responding or keep me on ignore ~ problem solved. It's quite clear what is happening to America right now :rolleyes:

 
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I doubt America represents more than 5% of the world's opinion but perhaps closer to 50% of the most vocal opinions? If that's your counter then you can have your cake & eat it, America is not the rest of the world.
Capitalism wasn't even invented in America ffs. At least open a history book once in your life.
Thomas Friedman
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
And you can keep that opinion in your pocket, stop spreading BS about what I said ~ when I clearly laid our what I meant by "some form of" socialism. If have so much issues with the S word you can stop responding or keep me on ignore problem solved. It's quite clear what is happening to America right now :rolleyes:
America has been "unraveling" according to stupid people for decades...

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Enjoy your ignorance.
 
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Capitalism wasn't even invented in America ffs. At least open a history book once in your life.
FFS why does it matter where it originated? You keep pointing out your ideals & your own world view as some form of validation? The world has a lot more favorable view of things like Universal health coverage, universal basic income & lot of issues plaguing our individualistic societies come down to basically one motive ~ money above all.
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
Cute, I wonder if you're ever heard of that edit feature on forums? Apparently not I guess.
America has been "unraveling" according to stupid people for decades...
And apparently more than 73(?) million people voted for Trump, even after this ~
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Yeah can keep tooting own horn if that makes you feel better so whatever floats your boat man, keep it up.:toast:
 
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FFS why does it matter where it originated? You keep pointing out your ideals & your own world view as some form of validation? The world has a lot more favorable view of things like Universal health coverage, universal basic income & lot of issues plaguing our individualistic societies come down to basically one motive ~ money above all.
And what do you keep on doing? At least I research stuff and listen to much smarter people than myself who don't just make emotional arguments like you. You can't even do that.

Go live in Venezuela where they have universal everything right now. Maybe you won't get killed and stripped naked after 5 minutes. Funny that their president talks exactly like you do. Meanwhile, Venezuela could be the richest country on earth right now having the biggest oil reserves on earth. But let's just leave all of Venezuela to shoot each other because of stupid ideals. Seriously, why can't socialism just die for once? That Einstein quote comes to mind again.



Cute, I wonder if you're ever heard of that edit feature on forums? Apparently not I guess.
You couldn't even get the name of this famous person (among anyone who actually knows jack shit about capitalism or even just basic economics) right the first time after I told it to you like 10 times. And you didn't care to check before you posted? Sure, keep thinking that you're smart. Maybe "Thomas" can help you understand some of these things, idk.
And apparently more than 73(?) million people voted for Trump, even after this ~
Why didn't you sort by Deaths/1M pop? Because the US then would be below countries like the UK and several other countries? Totally unbiased. I'm sure the US must be unraveling before our eyes.

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"Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it." - Ronald Reagan
 
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Again you have not reacted to any of my arguments and my personal experiences. But you come with that IBM crap (which is not a study anyways) again and again. And you are certainly trying to make this personal by making baseless asumptions about my relationship. Sorry dude, that is so low. I will not discuss with you anymore.
Anyways, before I put you on my ignore list, let me get personal too: tbh all you have done, is to confirm what I already thought about a lot (but by all means not all) of stereotype Mac users out there, blindness, absolute resistence to reason and the unfounded believe to be somehow better than others. Sounds a lot like other kinds of supremacists to me.
I hope you stay happy in your little world with your gated little ecosystem. And may The Great Jobs in Heaven watch over you. Always.
 
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@PowerPC
Again you have not reacted to any of my arguments and my personal experiences. But you come with that IBM crap (which is not a study anyways) again and again. And you are certainly trying to make this personal by making baseless asumptions about my relationship. Sorry dude, that is so low. I will not discuss with you anymore.
Anyways, before I put you on my ignore list, let me get personal too: tbh all you have done, is to confirm what I already thought about a lot (but by all means not all) of stereotype Mac users out there, blindness, absolute resistence to reason and the unfounded believe to be somehow better than others. Sounds a lot like other kinds of supremacists to me.
I hope you stay happy in your little world with your gated little ecosystem. And may The Great Jobs in Heaven watch over you. Always.
Dude, you are way overboard. Not sure how old you are with a wife and all...

I'd like to leave all the personal stuff behind because it's mostly sarcasm, anyway. Not sure why you would be so pissed about it. Baseless assumptions lol. Why did you bring her into it even? What's the point of us even knowing that your wife changed her mind? That's like the most anecdotal shit ever. Many people have sensitivities around the topic of their wives. If you don't like it, then don't bring up stupid anecdotal evidence.

But the fact remains that it's a study or they wouldn't have invested into 200.000 new devices. You don't realize that IBM does studies like this for other companies all the time. It's basically their whole job.

And it backs my own experience working on a Mac as a professional. Maybe you don't. Maybe it's not for you. Maybe you don't even work that much on the computer ... Most people actually don't. But then you're not even in the group of people who uses the laptop very much besides their spare time from work. Even if you are, you didn't use a Mac (your wife did). If you don't have anything to do with that, maybe that's why you don't understand the benefits it provides. The daily things you have to do are actually way better solved and designed on a Mac. It's not even a secret. As soon as you have to actually sit and work with it all day at the office, that stuff really adds up quickly. That's why there's a distinction for people who need work laptops.

I don't know why you needed to make this personal. That's absolutely shameful. You have definitely nothing better to do than to insult people online. I'm offering what I know to people. Then you appeared and started attacking and almost decapitating me because I'm trying to spread information that may actually be interesting to others? Why do I have to take shit about supremacy from people like you on the internet? Where's the supremacy in work? How does that make me "better than others"? You're the one trying to tell me how much better you are.

Can't the internet be just a place where people come to exchange actual information and not psychopathic political ideals? I feel like people are literally becoming crazy before my eyes these days. You can't have a civil discussion with numbers anymore. I'm sure if people like you take over, it's the end. I'm saying this from a position where I'm not actually in power or anything. I'm just a humble worker bee. I just produce output all day. I need something that actually makes me happy to go to work. A Mac statistically does that, if it makes you stay at your company longer and makes you more productive at your work, which can mean getting more money. This makes me even happier and lets me pay off the Mac quicker. How exactly does that make me, or Steve Jobs, an evil person? Please explain. Because BOOOOO capitalism, right? Maybe that's why people like you aren't the ones inflating the Apple prices, it's people who need work laptops and who want to feel better all day about them. How horrible! Do you just hate to see people being happy? What else is in your head besides ideology?

Saying that you want to block me is a way to threaten me? Maybe you already did but I have no idea why I should care. Go ahead?
 
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