AMD Phenom SuperPi Performance

malware · Aug 30, 2007

Namslas90 said:
True, but look at the version he says he is using in that screenie!!??

Yes, what about it? You can also download this version: http://www.cpuid.com/beta/cpuz.zip
That doesn't help much?

Namslas90 · Aug 30, 2007

newtekie1 said:
So, what does the fact that he is using the latest version have to do with anything?

Well, it's easy to assume it would include support for the Phenons, but then again may not.
@ Malware...thanks for the link.

:toast:

Random Murderer · Aug 30, 2007

this is hilarious if true!

newtekie1 · Aug 30, 2007

Namslas90 said:
Well, it's easy to assume it would include support for the Phenons, but then again may not.
@ Malware...thanks for the link.

Why is it easy to assume it would fully support Phenons? It at leasts detects the core and clock frequencies, I say that is pretty good considering it is a processor that is only available to a select few people currently, and chances are the developer of CPU-z hasn't even seen the processor.

Dippyskoodlez · Aug 30, 2007

Shaving 4s off superpi... at 2ghz isn't too bad.

Considering the A64 doesn't begin to speed up until about 2400-2500mhz....

Its amazing how things scale when they get clocked higher

newtekie1 said:
Why is it easy to assume it would support Phenons? It at leasts detects the core and clock frequencies, I say that is pretty good considering it is a processor that is only available to a select few people currently, and chances are the developer of CPU-z hasn't even seen the processor.

seriously people, it sees it as phenom with a logo.

No shit it has phenom support. They just photoshopped the logo in?

You people are the most skeptical bunch I have ever seen in my life.

Chances are if it DIDNT have phenom support, the benchmarker in question would have been working with the guy that made it.

Seeing as he hangs out around XS and directly helps with cpu-z bugs and all.

Namslas90 · Aug 30, 2007

Random Murderer said:
this is hilarious if true!

Yeah, this realy is fun... :toast:

mandelore · Aug 30, 2007

Namslas90 said:
Yeah, this realy is fun...

lol, well prepare to be bitch spanked when the phenom gets released, Ill wager

Namslas90 · Aug 30, 2007

mandelore said:
lol, well prepare to be bitch spanked when the phenom gets released, Ill wager

OK, so what are you saying, the phenom is better than the benchies listed or the same(worse).

I'm betting better.

niko084 · Aug 30, 2007

Although it may scale well when clocked.....

In the real big picture that makes the chip pretty much useless to most people.
And completely useless to business server environment.

But I wont get all in a fuss and think the chip sucks because of a sample release that was tested with who knows what other equipment. I'll wait until the full release of the chip and see what kinda numbers people are posting, if they don't look great I wont sell them or buy them.

erocker · Aug 30, 2007

I love it how people base thier opinions on a craptacular early engineering sample. Isn't Coolaler an Intel robot anyways?

newtekie1 · Aug 30, 2007

Dippyskoodlez said:
seriously people, it sees it as phenom with a logo.

No shit it has phenom support. They just photoshopped the logo in?

You people are the most skeptical bunch I have ever seen in my life.

Chances are if it DIDNT have phenom support, the benchmarker in question would have been working with the guy that made it.

Seeing as he hangs out around XS and directly helps with cpu-z bugs and all.

Yes I know that, I meant to say "fully support". Obviously some support is there, but some information is going to be screwy until they have some more time to work out the kinks.

Namslas90 · Aug 30, 2007

newtekie1 said:
Yes I know that, I meant to say "fully support". Obviously some support is there, but some information is going to be screwy until they have some more time to work out the kinks.

Um...You did...

newtekie1 said:
Why is it easy to assume it would fully support Phenons? It at leasts detects the core and clock frequencies, I say that is pretty good considering it is a processor that is only available to a select few people currently, and chances are the developer of CPU-z hasn't even seen the processor.

theonetruewill · Aug 30, 2007

erocker said:
I love it how people base thier opinions on a craptacular early engineering sample.

Bare in mind that after crap early benches for the HD 2900XT we all got it handed to us the way it had been shown. It did not live up to hopefuls fans' expectations. I;m not saying these results are true- but I'm worried.

niko084 · Aug 30, 2007

theonetruewill said:
Bare in mind that after crap early benches for the HD 2900XT we all got it handed to us the way it had been shown. It did not live up to hopefuls fans' expectations. I;m not saying these results are true- but I'm worried.

Unlike our video cards, which are being fixed by drivers very quickly, processors are not as easily fixed by drivers....

But give it some time people, early stage work is exactly that, not a finished project.
Lets see where this goes and how it progresses.

laszlo · Aug 30, 2007

remember that big scores and all the fake scores before the 2900xt release;how good is & how better than 8800GTX is? i see the same pattern with Phenom now; let's hope i'm wrong but if not sorry AMD my next rig will be a core2; i'll buy considering performance 1st from now on;i can afford to throw money just for support you!

that post about the power leakeage caused by the transition to 65nm posted a while ago has some truth also;they have compressed to much on die !

theonetruewill · Aug 30, 2007

laszlo said:
remember that big scores and all the fake scores before the 2900xt release;how good is & how better than 8800GTX is?

Most were to the contrary- and thats basically how it turned out; disappointing.

newtekie1 · Aug 30, 2007

Namslas90 said:
Um...You did...

I editted the post after my mistake was pointed out.

Deleted member 24505 · Aug 30, 2007

interesting little quote from movieman on the extremesystems forum,it was him who seems to have done some testing on this amd chip.

movieman-
"I have been saying for the last 8 months that these clovers are the damnest things I've ever seen. I can load all 8 cores at 100% and it still doesn't slow down. nn_step can tell you, I run the 2 of these machines at 3157/8mb/1402 at 100% load 24/7 doing DC work..Thats nonstop 100% load except for a few benches and updates since last December..In March this machine had a 99.8% uptime, I remember that figure. I'd done 4 reboots for updates..Thats it..Yea, I could go to work selling these for Intel they are so good."

reading through it,he seems genuinly dissapointed with the performance of this chip.

Exceededgoku · Aug 30, 2007

erocker said:
I love it how people base thier opinions on a craptacular early engineering sample. Isn't Coolaler an Intel robot anyways?

Uh no... Coolaler is exactly the opposite and just posts what he gets, I trust his leaked scores more than I trust benchmarks after the release of products. Him and all XIPs are really honest people within the benchmarking community and the fact that they live near all the tech helps them to "acquire" it early. But I get your point, the fact that its an early engineering sample has a huge effect. Also multiple core CPUs are worst at superpi, I remember also that Intel did a load of tweaking to get high superpi scores.. Infact I think their whole architecture is based on it.

Solaris17 · Aug 30, 2007

and remember though it doesnt count for raw preformance....maybe theyll come out w/ a quad opti. i mean the dual core opti. did alot for my rig woot sync time stamps ftw!!

Dehx · Aug 30, 2007

I like how these images emerge THE DAY AFTER The Inquirer says the phenom is bitchin with 30k + 3dmark06.

mandelore · Aug 30, 2007

Dehx said:
I like how these images emerge THE DAY AFTER The Inquirer says the phenom is bitchin with 30k + 3dmark06.

that was with a 3ghz phenom, this is a 2ghz barcelona

DRDNA · Aug 30, 2007

I guess we will have to just wait and see after they do official release...But looks like I am almost certainly going to a Intel quad on my upgrade...I am switching sides ...I have never had a decent Intel rig ..actually I have only had one Intel chip ever and it was a lame HP laptop with like a 1.2 or 1.4 GHZ chip in it(hated that lappy)all my other rigs have been AMD...It may be a refreshing change

jtleon · Aug 30, 2007

Clock for Clock, this sample drags behind Core Duo T2500

mandelore said:
that was with a 3ghz phenom, this is a 2ghz barcelona

My notebook T2500 Core Duo @ 2Ghz kicks out 1M SuperpiMOD1.5 at 30.75s at fsb166.

Now I'm sure if we all think back in history just a few short years ago, we can remember what happened when Intel introduced the first NetBurst chips vs. the pentium III chips at the time.

Of course at that time, AMD was kicking Intel's but with the Athlons/Opterons - AMD owned the server market, putting the Xeons to shame.

Now it appears that AMD may be walking down "netburst" avenue just like "almighty" Intel did not so long ago.

Unfortunately, AMD's pockets may be too shallow to recover - This is a truly worriesome condition. The last thing we need is no competition for Intel. On the other hand why don't we all visit:

http://www.tilera.com

and see who the true power house of the future will be.....hmmmmm.....are they on NASDAQ yet??

Regards,
jtleon

[I.R.A]_FBi · Aug 30, 2007

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