NVIDIA Quietly Relaxes Certification Requirements for NVIDIA G-SYNC Ultimate Badge

[Xuper]

For AMD Freesync premium there is one model with HDR 1000 nits which is certified by Vesa :

Buy the Philips Gaming Monitor 4K HDR display with Ambiglow 558M1RY/27 4K HDR display with Ambiglow

This Momentum display boasts sound by legendary audio experts Bowers & Wilkins, creates a new-level console gaming. Get immersed in the performance of this beautiful large display. Enjoy gaming awesomeness with optimal sound and visuals.

www.usa.philips.com

Now is there any model like that for G-sync Ultimate?

 

[bug]

For AMD Freesync premium there is one model with HDR 1000 nits which is certified by Vesa :

Buy the Philips Gaming Monitor 4K HDR display with Ambiglow 558M1RY/27 4K HDR display with Ambiglow

This Momentum display boasts sound by legendary audio experts Bowers & Wilkins, creates a new-level console gaming. Get immersed in the performance of this beautiful large display. Enjoy gaming awesomeness with optimal sound and visuals.

www.usa.philips.com

Now is there any model like that for G-sync Ultimate?

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But HDR is mostly for content creators, most certified monitors are geared towards that.

(Plus, it's hardly a monitor at 55".)

 

[Randomoneh]

You can't meet the contrast required for HDR without local dimming on LCD.

I see no contrast ratio requirements here.

edit: OK, I see something here but I'd have to check if those can be achieved without local dimming.

 

[junglist724]

You can't meet the contrast required for HDR without local dimming on LCD. That said, rtings did not actually find lowered brightness in HDR mode, they found it's about the same: https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/samsung/odyssey-g9
But that monitor is an abomination even before factoring in the lame local dimming implementation.

It's not the brightness that was lowered in HDR mode, it was the contrast ratio that was lowered because increasing a zone's brightness also raises the blacks on that 1/10th of the screen. Here's a quote straight from the contrast section of the rtings review.

The local dimming doesn't seem to do much in SDR, as the contrast remains almost unchanged. That said, it's much lower with local dimming enabled in HDR, as the large vertical dimming zones also light up the black squares in our test pattern, causing the contrast to drop to 446:1. In regular content, the contrast is expected to drop with local dimming enabled.

I see no contrast ratio requirements here.

edit: OK, I see something here but I'd have to check if those can be achieved without local dimming.

That's exactly the problem with DisplayHDR certification. You need good color volume(color gamut + luminance range) to get a good HDR experience.

 

[bug]

I see no contrast ratio requirements here.

Sure you do. You see a min peak brightness and a max black level. That's the contrast.

It's not the brightness that was lowered in HDR mode, it was the contrast ratio that was lowered because increasing a zone's brightness also raises the blacks on that 1/10th of the screen. Here's a quote straight from the contrast section of the rtings review.

True, but the contrast ratio is not measured strictly within a dimming zone. The point of a dimming zone is to offer better contrast compared to other parts of the screen.
The monitor still sucks, but local dimming is the least of its worries: bulky, curved, static contrast is not even among the better ones for VA, some of the worst uniformity I have seen, will all hit you before local dimming does.

 

[Randomoneh]

Sure you do. You see a min peak brightness and a max black level. That's the contrast.

No, there's no max black level in the FIRST webpage I linked.

edit: okay, it's at the bottom of the page.

 

[bug]

No, there's no max black level in the FIRST webpage I linked.

Maximum
Black Level
Luminance

 

[Vayra86]

No, there's no max black level in the FIRST webpage I linked.

Ctrl+F is your friend. The page is long.

 

[bug]

Ctrl+F is your friend. The page is long.

Tbh, it wasn't showing up for me at first either, because of NoScript. They updated their website after releasing v1.1, it used to be much more straightforward.

 

[Vayra86]

Well you can't really blame anyone for not finding something on those DisplayHDR bullshit pages. Its horrible to read a spec like that. Kinda reminds me of that fiasco we had a few weeks back about new PSU certification labels. Even just the introduction of it contained as many as 10 badges or something.

I understand a picture or badge can make it easier...but not when there are as many badges as you can find products...

 

[bug]

Well you can't really blame anyone for not finding something on those DisplayHDR bullshit pages. Its horrible to read a spec like that.

Well, when reading a spec, you should be prepared to do a little digging. This one is actually easier to read than a full-blown RFC, but yeah, it could be laid out better.
I also like how, since v1.1, they lumped all certified monitors together, in an attempt to mask how almost 90% of them are actually crappy DisplayHDR 400.

Kinda reminds me of that fiasco we had a few weeks back about new PSU certification labels. Even just the introduction of it contained as many as 10 badges or something.

I understand a picture or badge can make it easier...but not when there are as many badges as you can find products...

Agree, but at the same time I don't know how you can make it more useful when you want to take into account so many aspects. Well, not exactly "many", but certainly more than just efficiency(load).

 

[bobbyrooney]

so whats the best midrange card to get for my samsung Q90T tv? will freesync be better than gsync compatible? not sure if it matters anymore.