NVIDIA GeForce RTX 30-Series GPU Availability to Reportedly Worsen in Q1

[AleksandarK]

The availability of NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 3000 series "Ampere" graphics cards has been a problem ever since it launched. High demand paired with insufficient supply has caused quite some disturbance in the supply chain and has caused the MSRP of the GPUs to increase. Firstly, we were promised that the situation would resolve around May when NVIDIA is expecting to match the supply with the demand. However, according to the recent report, that might not be the case. Alternate, a European retailer operating in Belgium, the Netherlands, and Germany, has spoken to NVIDIA about the supply of the GeForce RTX 3000 series Ampere graphics cards.

According to the retailer, the situation with the card is such that the availability is scarce. When it comes to the GeForce RTX 3090, there are very few deliveries, but only a few open orders. The RTX 3080 sees very few cards coming with many open orders. The RTX 3070 has few cards incoming, but few open orders. And last but not least, the RTX 3060 Ti has very few cards coming, and a moderately high amount of open orders. If you are aiming to buy a card, your best chances would be with RTX 3090 and RTX 3070, as they do not have such high demand. On the other hand, RTX 3080 and RTX 3060 Ti cards are almost impossible to source as they all have a big waiting list. Alternate says that they work on a "first in first out" principle of delivering cards to consumers, so if you are not on the list you are likely going to wait for even longer.



The first quarter is especially bad because there are many contributing factors to this crisis. The Chinese New Year is taking place on February 12th and factories will be closed for a week or two. This could cause a bit of a disruption in the supply chain if NVIDIA can not source enough materials for GPU production. However, all that remains is waiting as we get to see how everything is turning out.

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[fynxer]

This is just amazing that they still have not been able to ramp up production of GPUs.

I mean Samsung must have started to manufacture GPUs like 6 months before 3080 release in September and still have not been able to increase production to a level so that it is improving the situation in the market.

Instead it is getting worse with less availability.

Also Nvidia is spreading them self thin by releasing more different GPUs like 3060 and a laptop GPUs. They should first put ALL manufacturing capacity into making enuf GA104 and GA102 GPUs before doing GA106 GPUs.

They could easily shelved laptop GPUs and GA106 for a while to get on track with supply, now it is just getting worse with not enuf of any GPU.

The tactics by Nvidia and partners now seems to be to increase prices over Scalping Levels just because they can thus punishing all the people that stood fast waiting to buy until there where more supply, now these people that have been waiting are forced to pay Scalping Level prices in shops.

MAKE NO MISTAKE THAT NVIDIA IS BEHIND THE BRUTAL PRICE INCREASE LATELY. In 2018 when graphic card sky rocketed in price Nvidia said it was not their doing, that they did not increase the price of GPUs to their partners. Then later when presenting financial results they had and much higher "almost insane" profit margin for their GPUs sales, how did this happen if they did not increase prices to their partners.

Nvidia wants to use the shortage to increase their profits, it is as simple as that. They do not care about all the people that have been waiting to buy until the supply got better, those people are now getting punished and have to pay Scalping prices in the shops instead.

You could say Nvidia is now scalping their own products, putting an insane inflated price tag on GPUs just because they can.

 

[ZoneDymo]

PC gaming is dying

 

[ratirt]

Jesus, this is just amazing that they still have not been able to ramp up production of GPUs.

Maybe they did but they are not selling those to gamers or regular users?

 

[LTUGamer]

RTX 3070 supposed to cost 499 USD
RTX 3080 supposed to cost 699 USD

If that were true...

 

[s3thra]

PC gaming is dying

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[Vayra86]

This is just amazing that they still have not been able to ramp up production of GPUs.

I mean Samsung must have started to manufacture GPUs like 6 months before 3080 release in September and still have not been able to increase production to a level so that it is improving the situation in the market.

Instead it is getting worse with less availability.

Also Nvidia is spreading them self thin by releasing more different GPUs like 3060 and a laptop GPUs. They should first put ALL manufacturing capacity into making enuf GA104 and GA102 GPUs before doing GA106 GPUs.

They could easily shelved laptop GPUs and GA106 for a while to get on track with supply, now it is just getting worse with not enuf of any GPU.

The tactics by Nvidia and partners now seem to be to increase prices over Scalping Levels just because they can thus punishing all the people that stod fast waiting to buy until there where more supply, now these people that have been waiting are forced to pay Scalping Level prices to Nvidia and partners.

Forced? What?

PC gaming is dying

Seriously, your average zombie would be jealous of the times PC gaming has died by now

 

[qubit]

This will be the first time that I skipped a generation simply because I couldn't buy it. That's insane.

At least, when I can eventually buy a card, it will be something better than what I missed out on as better models are released.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

Forced? What?




Seriously, your average zombie would be jealous of the times PC gaming has died by now

The PC platform has died so often I lost count, wait or was it zombie console games that died ( abandon ware)??

 

[Vayra86]

This will be the first time that I skipped a generation simply because I couldn't buy it. That's insane.

At least, when I can eventually buy a card, it will be something better than what I missed out on as better models are released.

^This. I see only profit, I mean it sucks if you have a shitty GPU right now that can't run anything, or are stuck to an IGP, but other than that... who's losing here? Its definitely not us 'poor' customers not being able to buy one. Nvidia is losing because they've effectively designed Ampere for mining and dumping. AMD is losing because they've got consoles with barely any content to show for it, and is otherwise stuck with the same issue as Nvidia. RT adoption is not taking off like this, the PC can't lead the charge and the consoles are waiting for content that has more than some glorified godrays. The whole strategical outlook for both these companies is pretty much pushed back several years.

 

[Chomiq]

Maybe it's not dying but it will become even more elitist than before.

 

[Max(IT)]

It would be interesting to know what is going on... production, building, distribution ... maybe all of the above.
We are speaking about products released almost 6 months ago, and the situation is getting worse instead of improving.

 

[RandAlThor]

Or maybe they are trying to nudge the whole market to the subscription mode where we pay every month. You are locked to the service you pay to because you have to buy the game for that specific service , the service can monitor and sell the data they collect on you in addition to the monthly fees, and the GPU manufacturers sell most of the stuff in bulk - less work.

Plus they can control the content.
And you wrote something we don't like on the forums ? Banned from gaming for a month. But you still have to pay ofc.

 

[dyonoctis]

PC gaming is dying

Because it's so much easier to get a console right ?

 

[Chomiq]

You could say Nvidia is now scalping their own products, putting an insane inflated price tag on GPUs just because they can.

So how will you explain 6800 regular and XT's going for $1000+/$1200+ at retail?

Sapphire Radeon RX 6800 XT NITRO+ OC SE 16GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card

11304-01-20G, Core Clock: 2110MHz, Boost Clock: 2360MHz, Memory: 16384MB 16000MHz GDDR6, Stream Processors: 4608, DirectX 12 Support, Vulkan Support, RDNA, Freesync 2 HDR support, 2yr Warrant

www.overclockers.co.uk

 

[Vya Domus]

No joke that PC gaming is dying, I think mining has finally cemented itself into the world such that it will never go away meaning the demand for GPUs to mine with will never go away either. And there is just no solution to it, not that any of these companies would care anyway even if there was one.

 

[Dammeron]

The tactics by Nvidia and partners now seem to be to increase prices over Scalping Levels just because they can thus punishing all the people that stood fast waiting to buy until there where more supply, now these people that have been waiting are forced to pay Scalping Level prices to Nvidia and partners.

Same thing happened 8-9 years ago when the first boom of mining went on. High-end cards had MRSP ~300-400€, then miners elevated prices for Radeons even up to 1,5k € (for a used one!!!), later similar thing happened to GTX. After that, even when the prices went down, it never went back to their previous levels and then nV presented 1080 for a whooping (by that time) 700€ (980 had MSRP 550 €) - nice jump at almost 30%.

 

[sepheronx]

It isn't even these GPU's that are unavailable - its all GPU's.

I build PC's as a small business on the side to sell. I cannot, for the life of me, find any GPU's to pick up. Besides the odd RX 470/480 570/580 going for about close to $200 CAD, for a 4GB model, there is nothing else. No GTX 1650 Supers, No RX 5500's, nothing. These GPU's are more than fine enough for 1080p gaming and they are not available. Go to memoryexpress physically, and all they got are GT 710's and GT 1030's.

This is absolutely pathetic. I am glad I picked up a 3070 when I did.

 

[sutyi]

Buying high performance PC parts or anyform of electronics for most us is not a necessity (unless you are working with them, but that's another story). It is not food, nor water but a luxury.

So the simple answer would be if people voted with their wallets and stopped buying crap at bloated prices.

 

[R-T-B]

It isn't even these GPU's that are unavailable - its all GPU's.

Pretty much. I knew buying a 2080 super during that brief post-3000 series announcement price dip was wise.

I could sell it over its MSRP now.

 

[medi01]

Spoiler: mindfactory sales week 6 2021

https://www.reddit.com/r/realAMD/comments/le2wlh

for reference, last year, roughly same time (basically, AMD sales down by about a third, NV's down by nearly a half):

Spoiler: mindfactory sales week 9 2020

https://www.reddit.com/r/AMD_Stock/comments/ffubg9

This is just amazing that they still have not been able to ramp up production of GPUs.

Now, let's assume that the original plan was:

3080 => 3080Ti
3070 => 3080
3060Ti => 3070

suddenly, it adds up, does it not?
From terrible availability (try to produce as many GA102 chips as you planned to produce GA104 chips) to funny memory configurations, with 3080 having less VRAM than 3060Ti.

Oh, and remember how AMD was supposed to barely match 2080Ti? Those were the days...
And suddenly we have lower power consumption, shorter memory bus and it beats the best green dude has in the newest games.
I blame this lady:

[/spoiler]

 

[Deleted member 185088]

And AMD are dumb instead of taking advantage of the situation by building more Zen3s and RDNA2s they waste production on useless consoles, that like someone mentioned don't have any decent game, and worse still AMD doesn't make a huge markup on them.
On the bright side, when those criminals stop wasting energy there will be a lot of cheap graphics cards for everyone.

 

[Vayra86]

Maybe it's not dying but it will become even more elitist than before.

Nope. Gaming diversified years ago but somehow people are still keen on throwing it all together and call it 'gaming'.

Filthy casuals and console peasants play filthy triple A money pits with accompanying peer pressure like youngsters do;
Epeening Enthusiasts play benchmarks and pre-order and then play day one triple A content to whine on social media its not working;
House Moms and Dads play on mobile and spend half a months' salary on Clash of Clans or extra candy to crush.
When House Mom and Dad tell kid to go outside and play, they start Ingress or Pokemon Go and game on.

And then there's the rest of the world, being interested in a highly diverse gaming catalog that has never been more vibrant in the history of gaming. You can play literally anything you want now and no matter what type of game you look for, there's a 100% chance something like it was released in the past two years, and probably copied a few times too. Full blown PC titles are now slowly dripping into the mobile world, even - I hear MTG Arena is now beta on Android - shared accounts with PC.

Gaming was never better. Even on old GPUs you can do just fine. On 1080p, any mid-to high range GPU from 2016 will play todays' content 'just fine' and 'playable'. There is a cutting edge for the most powerful GPUs to chew on in terms of 4K, UW, and RT. And in between those extremes everyone can play around depending on budget and personal motivation.

We gotta stop whining, really. Gaming was, is and has always been a growth market, you tell me who's not gaming today. Even granny heard of it or might do it.

And even if you're stuck with some ancient GPU, you can rest easy knowing newer games only have a pretty picture to offer, while mechanically they're most often not better at all.

 

[Frick]

Yeah that RTX2060 for €300 was a great buy.

Pretty much. I knew buying a 2080 super during that brief post-3000 series announcement price dip was wise.

I could sell it over its MSRP now.

I've seen the 2060 go for €430 used.

As for PC gaming dying, it isn't, but the price of entry is higher. Consoles are in short supply too, but I expect that to be sorted out way before you can build lightweight gaming systems for the price of a console.

 

[Kohl Baas]

PC gaming is dying

"The PC Gaming and hardware industry generated 40 billion dollars in revenue in 2020."

Yeah, you're right... Totally dying... 40 billion is the smallest banknote of USD...