Intel Rocket Lake-S Lands on March 15th, Alder Lake-S Uses Enhanced 10 nm SuperFin Process

[dgianstefani]

Good luck noticing the difference between 250 and 300 fps.

And hey, if you want to pay a premium for a chip that does statistically increase performance but makes no difference in the real world (as you are focused on gaming and not the ego-inflating FPS numbers at the top left), to replace your current, perfectly fine chip, go for it. This is why I don't care that Intel had/will have better gaming chips.

I suppose if it makes like 10 seconds difference in productivity, that's something else.

Look at the 11900K for example. Sacrificing productivity by shaving off cores off the 10900K for le gaming performance that literally nobody notices. But that's just me I guess. Carry on.

Lmao. Show me a Zen2 CPU that sits comfortably at 250fps 99%. 1% lows are below 100fps most of the time.

Your real world is as limited as your opinion. Let people enjoy things.

 

[RandallFlagg]

Now this looks interesting (11400).

Appears that the multi-core is suffering in AES and AI, multi-core AES is only +30% vs single core and multi-core AI is only +100% vs single core. They should both be at least 4x higher, even with slower RAM. Probably some kind of software or BIOS issue.

Even with those issues the multi-core is about even with a typical 10400. This should be hitting 8000+ easily on multi-core though.

This is an excellent single core score, a good 25-30% higher than typical 10400.

 

[DAWMan]

Now this looks interesting (11400).

Appears that the multi-core is suffering in AES and AI, multi-core AES is only +30% vs single core and multi-core AI is only +100% vs single core. They should both be at least 4x higher, even with slower RAM. Probably some kind of software or BIOS issue.

Even with those issues the multi-core is about even with a typical 10400. This should be hitting 8000+ easily on multi-core though.

This is an excellent single core score, a good 25-30% higher than typical 10400.

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I’d rather they lower Watts/Heat while maintaining similar IPC.

Also offer a fast/stock Quad Core, but I’m in the minority as even in the world of streaming audio more cores, bigger loads seem to be more desirable.

I just want a newer version of the i7 4790k CPU.
Last time I checked the i7 7700k was a step up, since then more cores more heat, etc.

2022 should be a good year.

 

[dgianstefani]

I’d rather they lower Watts/Heat while maintaining similar IPC.

Also offer a fast/stock Quad Core, but I’m in the minority as even in the world of streaming audio more cores, bigger loads seem to be more desirable.

I just want a newer version of the i7 4790k CPU.
Last time I checked the i7 7700k was a step up, since then more cores more heat, etc.

2022 should be a good year.

It's not hard, just buy an unlocked i3 if you want a fast 4 core.

 

[DAWMan]

It's not hard, just buy an unlocked i3 if you want a fast 4 core.

Almost upgraded from 4790k’s to i3 8350k’s but it’s the cache size that makes my apps shine.
Problem now is depleted stock with rack optimized boards.
Seems OEMs bought in bulk making DIY a crapshoot.

 

[Prima.Vera]

Seriously, is there anyone going to buy those chips , except OEMs ?? Nobody in their right mind will buy the "new" i9 x8 Core vs the previous gen i9 with x10 Cores.
What gives Intel???

 

[Deleted member 205776]

Lmao. Show me a Zen2 CPU that sits comfortably at 250fps 99%. 1% lows are below 100fps most of the time.

Your real world is as limited as your opinion. Let people enjoy things.

Of course you completely miss my point.

My point wasn't that "oh look Zen 2 gets 250 fps so you don't need anything better than that" because everybody and their grandmother knows that's unrealistic for Zen 2. It was simply poking fun at a situation where someone has a chip that can deliver 250fps but feels the need to pay and replace it with the newest single threaded king of a chip, which gets like 300, as if they will even notice the difference.

When have I ever talked about Zen 2? But if I were to talk about Zen 2, then I can comfortably say that my 3900X is delivering the framerates I need on my 144hz display just fine, even in the latest games. That would be way above 144, not holding back my 3070 at all. My old i7-8700 struggled a bit, but even that chip was good enough and not requiring me to get a 9th/10th gen i9.

But sure, spend your money and enjoy things however you like, don't have a care in the world what you do with your hard earned money. If you want to immediately upgrade to the next gen from your current gen chip, and pay more than what you paid for your current chip for a 5-10% performance increase, go and have fun doing that. To me, only upgrading every few generations, where there could be a 30% or bigger performance increase in the long run, seems like a better way to spend your money.

And even then, unless you for some reason need to have a 240hz/360hz display, anything over 144 fps on a 144hz display is just not needed (possible exception if you play competitive FPS games but don't take my word on that, as I don't play them. Those generally require higher refresh rate monitors where the performance increase would be justified anyway.)

Of course that's simply my opinion. I'm not telling anyone to stop doing that, as your last sentence was insinuating -- it is simply my opinion, which I'm sorry, I forgot you can't have opinions on the internet.

And of course the one liking your post is the #1 biggest corporate fanboy, lol. Shilling for any company is just pathetic and shows who's real world is actually limited here. That's the only vibe I get from you two's comments whenever I encounter them on this forum. I'm done checking this thread and losing braincells so, by all means, talk to the hand. Moving on to threads with level-headed people.

 

[DAWMan]

Having the latest/greatest 2 years down the road after the bugs are worked out is most enjoyable.
I use to enjoy the latest greatest until I started noticing no difference. By that time I had tons of spare parts in great condition and just last year built my last NOS i7-4790k. Could have sold the chip for 350 USD on eBay.

But alas my apps finally started catching up to the core race so in 2022 I’ll get an 8 core 5700X for 199 USD.