Intel Launches 11th Gen Core "Rocket Lake": Unmatched Overclocking and Gaming Performance

[Max(IT)]

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Two wrongs don’t make one right...

All good as long as you don't plan on running AVX512 tasks 24/7 which many seem to plan on doing judging by comments across the internet.

You missed the part where 11700K reached 224 W without AVX512...

 

[Why_Me]

The only slightly interesting CPUs are 11400F ($157) and 11700F ($298) when coupled with budget friendly B560 MBs (so one can use OC DDR4) if up to 19% IPC gain translates into more fps in gaming. If not, I 10400F ($129) / 10700F ($254) offer best value atm or wait until Alder Lake release or Ryzen3 getting a price cut (not very likely anytime soon).

This ^^ .. that's the post of the day (if you're into gaming).

 

[Deleted member 197223]

Two wrongs don’t make one right...


You missed the part where 11700K reached 224 W without AVX512...

Considering most tech journos refuse sharing voltages, I find it very hard to go with said benchmarks they provide. Especially if it's a product not yet available to the public. Unless of course you happen to be one of those who consider 5Ghz at 1.6V a good thing? Because I've met a lot of those.

 

[Dristun]

11600KF seems like a decent deal if one can get it at the suggested price. Everything else... meh. Can't isolate all this from the fact that z590 boards are stupid expensive though.

 

[phanbuey]

This ^^ .. that's the post of the day (if you're into gaming).

Even if not gaming... 6C/12T gaming processors do 99% of office and software dev tasks amazingly fast....

Also 10 cores are going for less than $400 in many cases so... not sure I will be buying this at launch.

 

[GoldenX]

5 years waiting for something new after Skylake, and it's the biggest MEH ever.
I hope the GPU reviews of this gen make up for it. Something to force AMD to stop shipping useless Vegas.

 

[Why_Me]

Pair up an i5 11400F or a i7 11700F with a B560 board and cheap set of 3200MHz CL16 RAM and you're off to the races.

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813119384?Item=N82E16813119384
ASUS PRIME B560-PLUS $119.99

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157976
ASRock B560 Steel Legend $129.99

 

[Tom Sunday]

I don’t believe in Alder Lake this year...

Lets be sure to watch Intel's first quarterly earnings call on April 22, 2021 promptly after close of market. Intel plans to discuss and report its ongoing 2021 strategic plans, first quarter earnings, financial forecasts and particulary its progress on Alder Lake to Wall Street and Intel's important attending institutional investors. I am quite sure that the Intel boys will clearly report the facts as they are for all to see and just perhaps based on the earnings call for many in buying more Intel stock. By then their short-lived Z590 chips have also been on the market and readily for sale and available. Made in factories owned and controlled by Intel, unlike AMD who is now requiring to sub-contract a greater share of their chip production. Curious how that will be playing itself out in the discussions as Wall Street loves guaranteed fabrication, sales and product control.

 

[billEST]

The only slightly interesting CPUs are 11400F ($157) and 11700F ($298) when coupled with budget friendly B560 MBs (so one can use OC DDR4) if up to 19% IPC gain translates into more fps in gaming. If not, I 10400F ($129) / 10700F ($254) offer best value atm or wait until Alder Lake release or Ryzen3 getting a price cut (not very likely anytime soon).

no 11500 : 750 GPU

 

[Max(IT)]

Considering most tech journos refuse sharing voltages, I find it very hard to go with said benchmarks they provide. Especially if it's a product not yet available to the public. Unless of course you happen to be one of those who consider 5Ghz at 1.6V a good thing? Because I've met a lot of those.

It was Anandtech, quite a reliable source of informations.
And considering the already quite ridiculous 10700K power consumption, I find those data coherent enough.

Intel CPU are a good choice NOW, if you consider Comet Lake, because even if they are not very "energy effective" they have good performance (especially in gaming) and a very good price.
Now Intel is launching a product that is even less effective and at a price matching the already too high AMD price.
Good luck.

 

[Metroid]

2021, 14nm+++++++++++++++++++++, base clock 2.5ghz tdp 60w --> real tdp 150w , boost clock 5.2ghz 120w, real tdp 500 watts.

 

[billEST]

Well...with the "Alder Lake" CPU virtually on our doorstep I hate to guess what the prices will then be for us to shell-out? Then in tune the all new mandated LGA 1700 mobos announcing themselves as well. The Z590 Asus Hero VIII now runs at $500 and this is not even their top-end board. So essentially all mobo manufacturers get to "double-dip" into profits this year as well. So everything we see right now runs at $500 plus.

I personally and with all the new tech that comes along with the Alder Lake hardware packages later this year, see a across the board further 25% price increase. Should and if GPU's become available at MSRP for this years Holiday Season, the officially stated to date MSRP's will most likely increase as well at a cool 25% or more and to initially feed a buying frenzy. After all its Christmas and people think differently. Once I see all of this coming down on me I will then surely get my marble attack.

you have 2 thunderbolt port .. 100 buck

400 expensive but a very hight motherboard

 

[Why_Me]

no 11500 : 750 GPU

https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i5-11500-core-i5-11th-gen/p/N82E16819118240
Intel Core i5-11500 Rocket Lake $218.99

 

[billEST]

2021, 14nm+++++++++++++++++++++, base clock 2.5ghz tdp 60w --> real tdp 150w , boost clock 5.2ghz 120w, real tdp 500 watts.

and its a problem ?

for me intel its 10 to 20 degres less in itx box its not a little thing ....

 

[Deleted member 205776]

2021, 14nm+++++++++++++++++++++, base clock 2.5ghz tdp 60w --> real tdp 150w , boost clock 5.2ghz 120w, real tdp 500 watts.

Gotta give props to Intel's engineers for managing to keep 14nm relevant, and squeeze 5.2 GHz out of it.

If only they had better management.

 

[agentnathan009]

I think the title should end with "unmatched heat and performance that finally catches up to our main competitor who has innovated and past us by at plaid speed." You want to play games and cook dinner?! Look no further than our hot, hot, hot CPUs that can do it all, dinner and gaming at the same time!

 

[Deleted member 205776]

I think the title should end with "unmatched heat and performance that finally catches up to our main competitor who has innovated and past us by at plaid speed."

AMD needs to innovate once again in the price department...

 

[agentnathan009]

AMD needs to innovate once again in the price department...

Intel has charged a premium for premium performance for a number of years, it's AMD's turn to make some extra money like Intel did with a superior product.

 

[Deleted member 205776]

Intel has charged a premium for premium performance for a number of years, it's AMD's turn to make some extra money like Intel did with a superior product.

They better put that quick R&D cash grab to good use for when Alder Lake finally comes around. I like my CPUs cheap.

Not about to pay $300 for a 6 core, or $450 for an 8 core, in 2021. I got my 12 core at $410.

 

[Deleted member 197223]

It was Anandtech, quite a reliable source of informations.
And considering the already quite ridiculous 10700K power consumption, I find those data coherent enough.

Intel CPU are a good choice NOW, if you consider Comet Lake, because even if they are not very "energy effective" they have good performance (especially in gaming) and a very good price.
Now Intel is launching a product that is even less effective and at a price matching the already too high AMD price.
Good luck.

I might as well be sitting on my Coffee Lake rig til DDR5 hits mainstream then by that logic. I have money to spend and I will spend. And not cry like every fool who can't get ahold of a GPU right now. My rigs will render frames either way, so now is a good time as any before costs go up again. Not everyone are just buying PC hardware mind you.

 

[agentnathan009]

They better put that quick R&D cash grab to good use for when Alder Lake finally comes around. I like my CPUs cheap.

Not about to pay $300 for a 6 core, or $450 for an 8 core, in 2021. I got my 12 core at $410.

They are executing on their roadmaps for Enterprise, desktop, and mobile parts. They are firing on all cylinders, for how long is anyone's guess. If you want cheaper and still capable CPUs you can buy last gen parts. I have a 2600x that is light years better than the Athena core Athlon 435 triple core that was my last rig. I have no doubt that they will allocate the extra money to put towards good use to keep churning out newer and better products. Can you be happy for once for AMD that is like a Phoenix rising from the ashes of a debt ridden and nearly dead state?

 

[Why_Me]

They are executing on their roadmaps for Enterprise, desktop, and mobile parts. They are firing on all cylinders, for how long is anyone's guess. If you want cheaper and still capable CPUs you can buy last gen parts. I have a 2600x that is light years better than the Athena core Athlon 435 triple core that was my last rig. I have no doubt that they will allocate the extra money to put towards good use to keep churning out newer and better products. Can you be happy for once for AMD that is like a Phoenix rising from the ashes of a debt ridden and nearly dead state?

AMD cpu's are expensive. Poor people such as myself who don't use cpu intensive programs want more for their money.

 

[Deleted member 205776]

They are executing on their roadmaps for Enterprise, desktop, and mobile parts. They are firing on all cylinders, for how long is anyone's guess. If you want cheaper and still capable CPUs you can buy last gen parts. I have a 2600x that is light years better than the Athena core Athlon 435 triple core that was my last rig. I have no doubt that they will allocate the extra money to put towards good use to keep churning out newer and better products. Can you be happy for once for AMD that is like a Phoenix rising from the ashes of a debt ridden and nearly dead state?

Who said I wasn't happy for AMD? If it weren't for them I wouldn't have a CPU with more than 4 cores right now. There would be no i5s with 6 cores right now. Considering they're fighting both Intel and NVIDIA and managing some of the greatest performance leaps in both departments is commendable enough.

I can't help but root for Intel to have something good again at the moment. I want competition not monopolies.

I'm not on team red, I'm not on team blue -- I'm on team price to performance. When I got my chip, AMD was the king in that regard.

 

[agentnathan009]

AMD cpu's are expensive. Poor people such as myself who don't use cpu intensive programs want more for their money.

Who doesn't want more for their money? Innovating and designing CPUs isn't the easiest task in the world and as transistors get smaller and smaller the cost goes up for the manufacturing equipment to make those itty bitty transistors. Cost will naturally increase as well to cover the R&D and manufacturing costs until someone discovers a break through that changes how we do CPUs and lowers the costs to develop ever more powerful processing units. Also, with the imminent release of of Rocket Lake chips, there could be enough competitiveness that AMD may lower their prices to keep selling their chips as fast as they can make them.

As Chip Design Costs Skyrocket, 3nm Process Node Is in Jeopardy

The cost of building new chips keeps rising every node -- so much so that by 3nm, there might be precious few companies that can afford new chips at all.

www.extremetech.com

Who said I wasn't happy for AMD? If it weren't for them I wouldn't have a CPU with more than 4 cores right now. There would be no i5s with 6 cores right now. Considering they're fighting both Intel and NVIDIA and managing some of the greatest performance leaps in both departments is commendable enough.

I can't help but root for Intel to have something good again at the moment. I want competition not monopolies.

I'm not on team red, I'm not on team blue -- I'm on team price to performance. When I got my chip, AMD was the king in that regard.

If you don't like monopolies then you need to suck it up and buy AMD at the prices they are asking as they are far behind overtaking the Intelopoly. To buy Intel at the moment is supporting a monopoly, though a weakening one.

 

[Why_Me]

Who doesn't want more for their money? Innovating and designing CPUs isn't the easiest task in the world and as transistors get smaller and smaller the cost goes up for the manufacturing equipment to make those itty bitty transistors. Cost will naturally increase as well to cover the R&D and manufacturing costs until someone discovers a break through that changes how we do CPUs and lowers the costs to develop ever more powerful processing units. Also, with the imminent release of of Rocket Lake chips, there could be enough competitiveness that AMD may lower their prices to keep selling their chips as fast as they can make them.

As Chip Design Costs Skyrocket, 3nm Process Node Is in Jeopardy

The cost of building new chips keeps rising every node -- so much so that by 3nm, there might be precious few companies that can afford new chips at all.

www.extremetech.com

If you don't like monopolies then you need to suck it up and buy AMD at the prices they are asking as they are far behind overtaking the Intelopoly. To buy Intel at the moment is supporting a monopoly, though a weakening one.

Unlike AMD, Intel obviously cares about the poor people who want a decent gaming cpu at an affordable price.