AMD Fixes Intermittent USB Connectivity Issues on 500 Series Chipsets, BIOS Update Arrives in April

[TheLostSwede]

I do know yes and yes openwrt cannot do magic, you obviously have to buy hardware that already has the capability but that capability may not be already unlocked out of the box. But I think we derailing this, we ended up going from broken USB connectivity to talking about if 2,5gbit lan is ready for mainstream.

I didn't start it, I simply wanted to clear up a few things.

 

[Tom Sunday]

It is true that Intel is more reliabe as a system package all together.

Thanks for your comment on the system package. I have always looked at both Intel and AMD only for the big picture. A bit of an investor view perhaps! Not specific CPU offerings and performances. Simply said AMD has some way to go as to full CPU maturity and associated hardware compatibility.

According to a new report from South Korea, AMD is now looking to increase its CPU and APU production as its current chip supplier, TSMC, is unable to do so. Hence, AMD is rumored to outsourcing and split even more production. Unlike Intel who has their own foundry-factories. Wall Street is not too happy with AMD as they love certainty, instant product availability and subsequent sales. Besides the engagement of a second CPU supplier for AMD will take additional tool-up time and prepping the factories. Bad for availability and sales.

Intel plans to report its earnings for the first quarter of 2021 on April 22, 2021 promptly after close of market. Let's see then what the Intel boys have to say to their institutional investors and of course the revolutionary and or the all new improved Alder Lake product coming soon or in the months ahead.

 

[bug]

Thanks for your comment on the system package. I have always looked at both Intel and AMD only for the big picture. A bit of an investor view perhaps! Not specific CPU offerings and performances. Simply said AMD has some way to go as to full CPU maturity and associated hardware compatibility.

Truth be told, AMD's Epyc line is as solid as it gets.

It just seems like they're not going the extra distance when it comes to consumer parts. E.g. Intel develops XMP to ensure memory faster than JEDEC specs works with their CPUs, whereas AMD simply lists faster speeds as "overclocks" and lets you play the mix and match game.

 

[Makaveli]

Truth be told, AMD's Epyc line is as solid as it gets.

It just seems like they're not going the extra distance when it comes to consumer parts. E.g. Intel develops XMP to ensure memory faster than JEDEC specs works with their CPUs, whereas AMD simply lists faster speeds as "overclocks" and lets you play the mix and match game.

D.O.C.P is the Asus AMD version of XMP and they do the same thing.

 

[bug]

D.O.C.P is the Asus AMD version of XMP and they do the same thing.

Yes, but that's Asus' work, not a generic solution like XMP. And there's no DOCP RAM, DOCP is just a hack on top of XMP.

 

[Makaveli]

Yes, but that's Asus' work, not a generic solution like XMP. And there's no DOCP RAM, DOCP is just a hack on top of XMP.

As long as the end result is the same does it matter if its a hack on top of XMP?

The modules i'm using have a XMP profile on them and the motherboard knows how to read it.

 

[bug]

As long as the end result is the same does it matter if its a hack on top of XMP?

The modules i'm using have a XMP profile on them and the motherboard knows how to read it.

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It matters when I said "AMD doesn't bother like Intel does when it comes to consumer parts" and the reply was "but Asus does something that resembles Intel's effort".

And the end result is most definitely not the same, as attested by the countless threads by poor sobs that can't run their modules at advertised speeds, because they run an AMD CPU. With Intel, XMP works out of the box in >90% of the cases. For the rest, you just dial the profiles in manually and you're good. With AMD, if you don't have an Asus board or DOCP doesn't work, you need to guess what ICs your DIMMs use, fire up a 3rd party utility, get some timings and dial those in. And even that doesn't always work and then you come to TPU complaining only to be told "dude, your RAM is not on the mobo's QVL".

 

[Makaveli]

It matters when I said "AMD doesn't bother like Intel does when it comes to consumer parts" and the reply was "but Asus does something that resembles Intel's effort".

And the end result is most definitely not the same, as attested by the countless threads by poor sobs that can't run their modules at advertised speeds, because they run an AMD CPU. With Intel, XMP works out of the box in >90% of the cases. For the rest, you just dial the profiles in manually and you're good. With AMD, if you don't have an Asus board or DOCP doesn't work, you need to guess what ICs your DIMMs use, fire up a 3rd party utility, get some timings and dial those in. And even that doesn't always work and then you come to TPU complaining only to be told "dude, your RAM is not on the mobo's QVL".

lol that all sounds like user error.