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Microsoft Announces Surface Laptop 4: Intel Tiger Lake or AMD Renoir APUs

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Microsoft's hardware legacy stretches back more than four decades to the early days of personal computing. As Windows built and inspired new computing experiences, new Microsoft hardware accessories helped people interact with them. At this intersection of hardware and software, magical experiences are possible. This core belief is at the heart of every product we build at Microsoft, and it's especially true of our Surface products. For almost a decade, Surface has pioneered breakthrough experiences that immerse people in their creative flow, eliminating friction that often exists between people and technology.

Surface allows people to adapt to new ways of working and creating through innovative and versatile devices that offer premium design and performance, quality typing and trackpads, exceptional cameras and mics, and immersive touchscreen display technologies. From the student learning on their Surface Go or Surface Laptop Go, to the knowledge worker on their Surface Pro 7+, to the creative professional working on a Surface Book 3, these products now serve as a lifeline to connections, content and work. It's inspiring to consider all that can be achieved on a Surface.





For years, Surface Laptop has stood apart from the crowd with craftsmanship unlike any other. We've spoken about how much we believe the details matter - and that conviction is rewarded when we see Surface Laptop consistently hold the highest customer satisfaction rating in its class. When we explore what customers like most, we hear a unique mix of product capabilities and fine details. For some, it's all about the satisfying typing experience and Alcantara finishes. For others, it's the immersive capabilities of touch, video quality, our 3:2 displays and reliable app compatibility. We, too, believe that a device's performance goes beyond what can be measured in specifications. We hear from customers that Surface Laptop's performance stands out not only because of what it can do, but also because of how it speaks to the senses and inspires people. We have been hard at work, continuing to innovate while preserving the elements customers love most about this product. We're pleased to introduce Surface Laptop 4.



Surface Laptop 4 is, first and foremost, optimized for Microsoft experiences. It retains the iconic design, details and materials that our customers love. With our signature 3:2 PixelSense touchscreen displays in 13.5" or 15" models, customers can choose from Alcantara or metal finishes in a variety of bold colors you can't get anywhere else, including a new Ice Blue finish. Surface Laptop 4 offers a built-in HD front-facing camera with incredible low-light capability and a studio microphone array, ensuring you'll come through loud and clear as you connect with loved ones or participate in a crucial virtual work meeting. With the 201 PPI, high-contrast touchscreen display, and Dolby Atmos Omnisonic speakers, you'll get a cinematic experience that immerses you in your favorite movies and shows from the comfort of anywhere. Whether through the vibrant touchscreen display, large trackpad with gesture support, or its industry-leading typing experience, Surface Laptop can adjust to your preferred workflow. Surface Laptop 4 offers a choice between either the 11th Gen Intel Core processors, or AMD Ryzen Mobile Processors with Radeon Graphics Microsoft Surface Edition (8 cores); in either case, you'll find a smooth experience that powers modern, multitasking demands. Across both options, we've partnered to customize silicon in ways that boost performance while offering improved battery life. On the outside, you see style and sophistication. Effortlessly lift the screen, and this product will draw you into your flow. From the office, living room, coffee shop or classroom, nothing comes close to this product's look and feel.


Surface Laptop 4 joins Surface Laptop Go to provide a variety of Laptop options. Choose your perfect color, size and price. Starting at $999.99 USD, Surface Laptop 4 is available to order today in the US, Canada, and Japan, with additional market availability in the coming weeks. Orders will begin shipping April 15. Surface fans in the US who purchase Surface Laptop 4 through microsoft.com or bestbuy.com before April 15 will receive Surface Earbuds as a special gift, on us.

Devices built to enable inclusive hybrid work environments
As we look to the future, it's clear that flexible work is here to stay. According to our latest release of the Work Trend Index, over 70% of workers surveyed want flexible remote work options to continue. For hybrid work and learning environments, devices must help people be productive, enabling collaboration with the right balance of power and performance. They need to be versatile to work in different environments and be highly secure. Surface Laptop 4, Surface Headphones, and the new meetings and collaboration accessories from Microsoft show how our portfolio is evolving and innovating to accelerate hybrid work. Customers across industries already love Surface Laptop for its mobility, ease of use, power, performance and enterprise-grade security features.

Surface Laptop 4 offers incredible security out-of-the-box with integrated hardware, firmware, software and identity protection. Customers can maintain control of sensitive information with a removable hard drive for data retention and get more security and control with cloud-first device deployment and management, all the way down to the firmware layer.

Across the breadth of form-factors and price points available, from our largest Surface Hub, to our pocket-sized Surface Duo, we remain committed to delivering innovative devices that keep people productive. To this end, we're pleased to share that Surface Duo is now available for business and education customers in additional European countries. Visit microsoft.com or contact your local authorized reseller to place your order.

Across the Surface family of products and Microsoft accessories, there are bold and diverse product options available - from best-in-class 2-in-1s to best-in-class laptops. Select the unique combination of products suited to your work, interests and environments. Every detail of these products was inspired by the possibilities you could create with them. We hope you experience, across all your passions, the same inspiration and focus that went into making these products.

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Nice to see Ryzen as an option. But why 4000 and not 5000? And why 16GB when Intel gets 32GB?

We all know the answer.

Microsoft wants to keep Intel closer to it's heart than it's customers, it seems.
 
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SOOOO MUCH FLUFFFFF, SOOOOO LITTLE REAL INFO, like, maybe, detailed specs, performance charts, noise levels, config options, you know, stuff people might wanna know when/if considering a purchase anytime soon (like me, with my son starting college in the fall !) hehehehehe :roll:
 
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SOOOO MUCH FLUFFFFF, SOOOOO LITTLE REAL INFO, like, maybe, detailed specs, performance charts, noise levels, config options, you know, stuff people might wanna know when/if considering a purchase anytime soon (like me, with my son starting college in the fall !) hehehehehe :roll:
Well, it is a press release, what did you expect? Of course it would be all fluffy MS stuffing lol
 
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Pulled from Ars Technica: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/202...top-4-official-offers-choice-of-amd-or-intel/

13.5-inch
  • AMD Ryzen 5 4680U, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD: $999
  • AMD Ryzen 5 4680U, 16GB RAM, 256GB SSD: $1,199
  • Intel Core i5-1135G7, 8GB RAM, 512GB SSD: $1,299
  • Intel Core i5-1135G7, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD: $1,499
  • Intel Core i7-1185G7, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD: $1,699
  • Intel Core i7-1185G7, 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD: $2,299
15-inch
  • AMD Ryzen 7 4980U, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD: $1,299
  • AMD Ryzen 7 4980U, 8GB RAM, 512GB SSD: $1,499
  • AMD Ryzen 7 4980U, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD: $1,699
  • Intel Core i7-1185G7, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD: $1,799
  • Intel Core i7-1185G7, 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD: $2,399
 
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What's up with them not using "standard" 1440p and 1600p (e.g. 2160x1440, 2400x1600)?
 
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What's up with them not using "standard" 1440p and 1600p (e.g. 2160x1440, 2400x1600)?
No idea, but I kinda like it? I mean, for the kind of work that I do (which is mostly spreadsheets and web browsing), taller screens are better.
 
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  • AMD Ryzen 5 4680U, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD: $999
  • AMD Ryzen 5 4680U, 16GB RAM, 256GB SSD: $1,199
  • Intel Core i5-1135G7, 8GB RAM, 512GB SSD: $1,299
  • Intel Core i5-1135G7, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD: $1,499
  • Intel Core i7-1185G7, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD: $1,699
  • Intel Core i7-1185G7, 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD: $2,299
15-inch
  • AMD Ryzen 7 4980U, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD: $1,299
  • AMD Ryzen 7 4980U, 8GB RAM, 512GB SSD: $1,499
  • AMD Ryzen 7 4980U, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD: $1,699
  • Intel Core i7-1185G7, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD: $1,799
  • Intel Core i7-1185G7, 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD: $2,399
Typical Microsoft in bed with Intel and relegating AMD to "basic" models only.
The implication is Intel is better, and the general public won't know any different.
 

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Nice to see Ryzen as an option. But why 4000 and not 5000? And why 16GB when Intel gets 32GB?

We all know the answer.

Microsoft wants to keep Intel closer to it's heart than it's customers, it seems.
Typical Microsoft in bed with Intel and relegating AMD to "basic" models only.
The implication is Intel is better, and the general public won't know any different.

Remember the last Surface Laptop that pitted Ice Lake against Picasso? And what's more, pricing the Picasso dinosaur almost as expensive as Ice Lake? Microsoft is always full of all sorts of bright ideas :laugh: their R&D schedule is determined to intentionally miss AMD's new releases.

MS is only shafting themselves lol. Last time at least both were 4C/8T. Now you're paying more for a 4C/8T Tiger Lake over a 8C/16T Renoir with better battery life, no less :laugh: that maybe could be forgiven if the Tiger Lake system got Thunderbolt 4 while the Renoir didn't. You know, like the one advantage that Tiger Lake still has?

Oh what's that? Microsoft still doesn't know what Thunderbolt is? Bummer. Well then, I hope buyers really like the screen, svelte design, poor thermals, and abysmal BIOS :roll:

I'd say something about the Renoir SKUs being good value, but then I remembered that this is a Microsoft product, there's no such thing as value
 
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Great. 6 and 8-core Ryzens paired with lower memory and storage amounts...because why? At least they're the cheaper options lol why would anyone get the Intel versions for more money and be slower.
 
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