AMD Launches Ryzen 9 5900 & Ryzen 7 5800 OEM Processors

N3M3515 · Apr 14, 2021

Wtf man......OEM........yuck....
AMD seems to be milking to an extreme.

windwhirl · Apr 14, 2021

N3M3515 said:
Wtf man......OEM........yuck....
AMD seems to be milking to an extreme.

I doubt they're milking it. OEMs are unlikely to pay the same as you or me per CPU. Some have said that OEM deals usually mean very low margins for AMD/Intel. It's mostly for the market presence.

N3M3515 · Apr 14, 2021

windwhirl said:
I doubt they're milking it. OEMs are unlikely to pay the same as you or me per CPU. Some have said that OEM deals usually mean very low margins for AMD/Intel. It's mostly for the market presence.

Don't they sell way more that way?, even if it's low margin, they sell so many that at the end, they earn more.

Makaveli · Apr 14, 2021

N3M3515 said:
Don't they sell way more that way?, even if it's low margin, they sell so many that at the end, they earn more.

Yes they make up for it in volume but OEM's are smart and have more bargaining power than consumers since their orders are so large. The more they pay the less profit they make so its in the best interest to get the deal as low as possible.

Mussels · Apr 15, 2021

N3M3515 said:
Don't they sell way more that way?, even if it's low margin, they sell so many that at the end, they earn more.

only if manufacturing can keep up and they have the volume to sell...

TheDeeGee · Apr 19, 2021

So AMD going the Intel route, milking people by only selling expensive X models.

Turns out both have their scummy sides.

Chomiq · Apr 19, 2021

TheDeeGee said:
So AMD going the Intel route, milking people by only selling expensive X models.

Turns out both have their scummy sides.

X SKU's get scalped at retail - "AMD BAD"
non-X SKU's for OEM's - "AMD BAD"

TheDeeGee · Apr 19, 2021

Chomiq said:
X SKU's get scalped at retail - "AMD BAD"
non-X SKU's for OEM's - "AMD BAD"

5800X goes for €448 here in the Netherlands, in stock.

Had one before, was packed with WHEA crashes.

windwhirl · Apr 19, 2021

TheDeeGee said:
So AMD going the Intel route, milking people by only selling expensive X models.

Turns out both have their scummy sides.

Chomiq said:
X SKU's get scalped at retail - "AMD BAD"
non-X SKU's for OEM's - "AMD BAD"

Not like it matters what MSRP AMD set anyway, since there is little stock available, so it would have been scalped anyway.

N3M3515 · Apr 19, 2021

Chomiq said:
X SKU's get scalped at retail - "AMD BAD"
non-X SKU's for OEM's - "AMD BAD"

Where's the non x 5600 with $200 msrp?

FACT of life: intel, amd, nvidia, and any other WILL milk you to death whenever they have the chance, that's just bussines as usual.

windwhirl · Apr 19, 2021

N3M3515 said:
Where's the non x 5600 with $200 msrp?

AMD doesn't even list the processor itself yet. So it probably doesn't even exist yet.

N3M3515 · Apr 19, 2021

windwhirl said:
AMD doesn't even list the processor itself yet. So it probably doesn't even exist yet.

Taht's exactly my point.
I just hope this freaking scalping ends soon. I need to update my pc.

Chomiq · Apr 19, 2021

N3M3515 said:
Where's the non x 5600 with $200 msrp?

FACT of life: intel, amd, nvidia, and any other WILL milk you to death whenever they have the chance, that's just bussines as usual.

Fact of life - the majority of price increases for regular clients come from distribution chain and not from chip manufacturers.

N3M3515 · Apr 19, 2021

Chomiq said:
Fact of life - the majority of price increases for regular clients come from distribution chain and not from chip manufacturers.

Same result, price increase.

AusWolf · Apr 20, 2021

BunGFIzaN said:
hoping we at least got Zen 3 APU for retail buyers, pls AMD, can we at least have the APU...

btw new user here, love this site

Welcome!

And I agree. These non-X CPUs are kind of meh imo, but quite a lot of people (myself included) are excited about the new Zen 3 APUs. Sadly it won't happen just yet.

Waldorf · Apr 21, 2021

@TumbleGeorge
you mean what intel was doing for at least a 3x longer? ok

@N3M3515
lol, did they force you to spend money on their product?
its nothing you "need" to make it to the next day (older hw works just fine for the basics like email/browsing/office etc.
what "groceries/food" you buy at least twice a month, costs the same as 10y ago?
right.

funny how some act like companies put them in a van, and told them to bend over, without offering lube

i buy the stuff i like, if i have the budget for it (and save up if needed).
doesnt mean im gonna whine about the fact that companies want to make money with their product.

N3M3515 · Apr 21, 2021

Fry178 said:
@TumbleGeorge
you mean what intel was doing for at least a 3x longer? ok

@N3M3515
lol, did they force you to spend money on their product?
its nothing you "need" to make it to the next day (older hw works just fine for the basics like email/browsing/office etc.
what "groceries/food" you buy at least twice a month, costs the same as 10y ago?
right.

funny how some act like companies put them in a van, and told them to bend over, without offering lube
i buy the stuff i like, if i have the budget for it (and save up if needed).
doesnt mean im gonna whine about the fact that companies want to make money with their product.

Oh yeah, i perfectly know i decide to buy or not. That does not change the facts.

TheinsanegamerN · Apr 22, 2021

N3M3515 said:
Where's the non x 5600 with $200 msrp?

FACT of life: intel, amd, nvidia, and any other WILL milk you to death whenever they have the chance, that's just bussines as usual.

IDK why anyone would be surprised at this anyway, AMD has a history of jacking up prices when they have the lead, see also the athlon FX-57 and athlon FX-52. Only reason we havent seen ATi/AMD do that with GPUs is because they've never held onto the lead for a signifcant time like nvidia has.

Makaveli · Apr 22, 2021

TheinsanegamerN said:
IDK why anyone would be surprised at this anyway, AMD has a history of jacking up prices when they have the lead, see also the athlon FX-57 and athlon FX-52. Only reason we havent seen ATi/AMD do that with GPUs is because they've never held onto the lead for a signifcant time like nvidia has.

Kinda par the course when you have a superior product. All companies do this and considering all of these are publicly traded companies if money was left on the table they would have to answer to their shareholders.

Night · Apr 25, 2021

I think it's connected with shortage of... everything. AMD providing cheaper yet still powerul non X CPUs to OEMs will make it easier to sell prebuilds these days, even to enthuasiast. These non X CPUs paired with hardly to find unscalped GPUs will be a better deal, to some. DIY market is down the toilet at the moment.

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AMD Launches Ryzen 9 5900 & Ryzen 7 5800 OEM Processors

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