TSMC Employs AMD EPYC CPUs for Mission-Critical Manufacturing

[AleksandarK]

Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company, the maker of various kinds of silicon products, is the manufacturer of AMD's EPYC processors. However, have you ever questioned what CPUs are actually behind TSMC? The answer to that question is quite simple. Today, we have come to know that TSMC is using AMD EPYC processors to power their manufacturing infrastructure and tape out thousands of wafers per month. AMD has published TSMC's case study, which pointed out that the total cost of ownership has been the main challenge of the Taiwanese company. By using AMD EPYC 7702P and 7F72 CPUs, TSMC addresses the need for both reliable and high-performing server infrastructure to power the manufacturing efforts. For research and development purposes, TSMC chose the 7F72 with 24 cores and a high clock speed of 3.2 GHz, which is ideal for the company needs and purposes.

For more details about TSMC's choices and solutions, read the case study here.


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[Caring1]

AMD - - Intel.

 

[Logoffon]

And now they need to ramp up the actual production as well, not just the computers behind them.

 

[Deleted member 205776]

Well, yeah... why would they use anything else?

 

[Xaled]

And now they need to ramp up the actual production as well, not just the computers behind them.

Why should they do so? is it TSMC's problem that AMD & Nvidia are designing good "mining" products?

 

[1d10t]

Now that they have switched from 28 cores to 64 cores, we expect chip production to increase at least 2 times.

/s​

 

[medi01]

And now they need to ramp up the actual production as well

No, now people need to stop doing silly things with "crypto" bubble/ponzi.

AMD's revenue is up 94% vs last year, while margins are at record high 47%, how much "rampupier" could one get?
Dr Su promised they would, though.

AMD's constraints are understandable, TSMC is booked out (by AMD itself, chuckle, those console APUs are large), what NV is doing with entire Samsung 8nm is a mystery.
Perhaps they have issues grabbing enough of that expensive RAM modules.

 

[R-T-B]

Why should they do so? is it TSMC's problem that AMD & Nvidia are designing good "mining" products?

You act like we are only short on gpus.

We aren't. More is at play than that.

 

[Xaled]

You act like we are only short on gpus.

We aren't. More is at play than that.

There is demand on everything. However, unlike all other products, the demand on GPUs is not fixed because miners will just buy everything available.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

No, now people need to stop doing silly things with "crypto" bubble/ponzi.

Yes, it'd be far better for people to invest with current FIAT currency that is experiencing hyperinflation, with half of all USD being printed last year.

Crypto has its place, and so long as the world's politics continue to try and crack down on dissenters, print money like it's candy, and payment platforms try to play moral guardian interest in crypto will only continue to rise.

 

[SL2]

You act like we are only short on gpus.

We aren't. More is at play than that.

I have no idea what's going on at the console market, but what really surprises me is that Ryzen 5000 have been available for months in europe (at least 6 and 8C have decent prices too, 12 and 16C have been available for the last two months or so).

Meanwhile, pcpp shows nothing on AMD. Why? It's not like AMD is much less popular in europe AFAIK.

@TheLostSwede - What's your take on this?

 

[R-T-B]

There is demand on everything. However, unlike all other products, the demand on GPUs is not fixed because miners will just buy everything available.

Yoy miss the point. To date, no silicon based product is meeting demand.

 

[Bruno_O]

AMD: orders chips
TSMC: produce chips, then ships them to AMD and charge $
AMD: put chips in shiny boxes, send it back to TSMC, and charges $$
TSMC: get their silicon back for their servers for twice the price
AMD: profit

 

[dragontamer5788]

Yoy miss the point. To date, no silicon based product is meeting demand.

Indeed. As far as I'm aware: the biggest holdup is in the auto-industry. That is: automotive class chips are suffering the biggest setbacks right now (Automobile chips are specially manufactured / tested for high thermal range: below freezing and excess temperatures exceeding 150F)

 

[Lindatje]

There is demand on everything. However, unlike all other products, the demand on GPUs is not fixed because miners will just buy everything available.

So? After all, "miners" are just consumers to, so why shouldn't they buy GPUs? What's the problem?

Are you trying to tell that they are not allowed to buy GPUs…..?

 

[64K]

So? After all, "miners" are just consumers to, so why shouldn't they buy GPUs? What's the problem?

Are you trying to tell that they are not allowed to buy GPUs…..?

It's the damage that they are doing. You can't even buy a GPU for gaming unless you are willing to be gouged.

 

[mclaren85]

There is demand on everything. However, unlike all other products, the demand on GPUs is not fixed because miners will just buy everything available.

Why do demand rise up for everything? Pandemic?

 

[dragontamer5788]

Why do demand rise up for everything? Pandemic?

The "direct" reason is US Personal Savings Rate.

Personal Saving Rate

Graph and download economic data for Personal Saving Rate (PSAVERT) from Jan 1959 to Sep 2024 about savings, personal, rate, and USA.

fred.stlouisfed.org

For various reasons (Pandemic included), the average US Citizen saved 33% of their income last year (it is very unusual for Americans to save more than 7%, let alone the 30%+ rates we were seeing last year). Then, the US Government cut almost everyone a $1200 check. Then the US Government cut almost everyone a $1400 check (+additional money for those who had children / dependents).

Now sure: a huge number of industries (airline, hotels, cruise lines, tourism, restaurants, movie theaters, theme parks, rental car companies...) have been hit extremely hard, and a huge number of people in those industries have been unemployed for the past year. However, for everyone who was in a position to keep their jobs, these stimulus checks + the historically HUGE amounts of savings conducted last year has caused an incredible amount of $$$$ to be in people's bank accounts right now.

An enormous number of people in the USA have excess amounts of savings right now, and people are finally feeling optimistic about the pandemic. So spending is skyrocketing: people are buying the cars they didn't buy last year, or renovating their homes... or buying new homes entirely. Its an unusual and uneven situation: some people have tons of money, while others are in a horrible position.

 

[ratirt]

I have no idea what's going on at the console market, but what really surprises me is that Ryzen 5000 have been available for months in europe (at least 6 and 8C have decent prices too, 12 and 16C have been available for the last two months or so).

Meanwhile, pcpp shows nothing on AMD. Why? It's not like AMD is much less popular in europe AFAIK.

@TheLostSwede - What's your take on this?

I see constant availability of AMD 5600x and 5800x in Norway. The 5900x and 5950x are as well but at slightly inflated prices. To my surprise, the prices have gone down a bit for the 5600x and 5800x.

So? After all, "miners" are just consumers to, so why shouldn't they buy GPUs? What's the problem?

Are you trying to tell that they are not allowed to buy GPUs…..?

nailed it

 

[Hargema]

Why should they do so? is it TSMC's problem that AMD & Nvidia are designing good "mining" products?

It is NVIDIA that has a trash distribution network and scalping partners.

 

[candle_86]

So? After all, "miners" are just consumers to, so why shouldn't they buy GPUs? What's the problem?

Are you trying to tell that they are not allowed to buy GPUs…..?

an unregulated currency used primarily for human trafficking, drug buys, arms smuggling, and ransom demands, what could go wrong. I'd like to see Crypto banned, and anyone holding the coins charged under RICO.

 

[cyberloner]

intel get slap again....

 

[medi01]

Crypto has its place, and so long as the world's politics continue to try and crack down on dissenters

Something something we are righteous rebels, something something evil governments, something something my financial bubble at best and outright Ponzi Scheme at worst is neither as it hurts my "investment" and "feelz" something.

Sure, John.

Whom the heck are you kidding? You are putting money in it, to get more later on. That is the only "cripto drive".

And we have 6000+ crypto bazinga at this point.

 

[Xaled]

So? After all, "miners" are just consumers to, so why shouldn't they buy GPUs? What's the problem?

Are you trying to tell that they are not allowed to buy GPUs…..?

Yes, you must not be allowed to earn money just by burning the planet!

 

[Lindatje]

Yes, you must not be allowed to earn money just by burning the planet!

“Burning the planet”… oh boy.

So, if you use GPU’s for crypto than you are “burning the planet”, but if you use your GPU for games then your not “burning the planet”…..?