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Ten Years in, AMD to End Support for Radeon HD 7000, R200, R300 and Fury GCN Graphics Cards

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vega as last gen GCN might be on the chopping block soon
Well if this pass as an "OK"move in the eyes of the consumers...I mean why the hell not maybe they can even stop supporting 5700 series in a year or so......
 
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vega as last gen GCN might be on the chopping block soon
Yeah, they'll totally axe Vega when they launched Cezanne just a couple months ago... /s
 
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I think some of you miss the point by dropping support. Support drops means no further development for an older GCN cards and no optimizations but the driver (and the card) will still work though.
At least that's how I take it.
No seems like maybe you missing the point the new drivers are NOT Working and they are not going to work in the Future on those cards.....Period....Me and many other people already tried installing the latest driver from today 21.6.1 and you can't install this driver on those cards at all even If you try to force them via installing just the inf file from device manager it's just not feasible to do this anymore....
 
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No the new drivers are NOT Working and are not going to work in the Future.....Period....Me and many other people already tried installing the latest drivers and you can't install them on those cards at all even If you try to force them via installing just the inf file from device manager it's just not feasible to do this anymore
I think that is understood but you can still install the older driver and it will work. Why would AMD or NV focus on cards that don't support any of the new technologies, features they have created?
What's the point? You can use an older driver if you want to use the card.
 
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I think that is understood but you can still install the older driver and it will work. Why would AMD or NV focus on cards that don't support any of the new technologies, features they have created?
What's the point? You can use an older driver if you want to use the card.
Well If you think this is a good move by AMD it's OK then......Don't be surprised if they stop driver support for yours 6900XT in a few years......Me personally see that this move as nothing but BAD for US as consumers and after this I am sure that I am done with the AMD GPU's..........
 
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Well If you think this is a good move by AMD it's OK then......Don't be surprised if they stop driver support for yours 6900XT in a few years......Me personally see that this move is nothing but BAD for US as consumers..........
I think you are missing the point really here now. What's the point to include, lets say HD 7970 when it runs 50% slower than an RX 470? Has way less Vram which makes it simpossible to run a lot of games at 1080p even and yet you still want AMD to support this for the new drivers and new game releases? You won't be able to play those games anyway even if they keep the support going.
You people are unbelievable. You want new technologies, features, new fast cards that can run those with a decent FPS (144hz monitors 144FPS and up) and yet you want the driver to support a 6 year old cards that would run all those features and new games (freakin' shit load of games have new engines with so many features and improvements).
I'm not worried that my card will be EoL in 3 year time. I'm really not worried about it. But, if a company wants to push boundaries for new tech and new features with new games which are getting more demanding, you can't cling to an old card's architecture expecting miracles for them to handle these new games and technologies.
You have RT now. You think within a 2 years time a 2060 (even with DLSS 2.0 on) will run a newest game at 1080p with RT on with it's 6GB of Vram? If it does how many FPS you think you will get?
So what's the point for supporting a 2060 4 years from now, if that card won't be able to run any modern game with a decent 60 FPS at least? It costs the company a lot of time and money to support something that wont be able to run the newest games anyway so why bother?
You don't have to agree but that's the way progress and pushing boundaries for new graphics technologies in games is going to be either you like it or not. You can't rely on an old architectures and support for those to make them run faster because that's not what progress and/or advancement is.
 
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Well If you think this is a good move by AMD it's OK then......Don't be surprised if they stop driver support for yours 6900XT in a few years......Me personally see that this move as nothing but BAD for US as consumers and after this I am sure that I am done with the AMD GPU's..........
Both GPu brands tend to offer 10 years of active driver support.
Beyond that is untenable, no support for new tech, no enhanced features etc, beyond a point your wasting power unnecessarily by using outdated old tech.
And if you think any company is going to miss people who buy every decade going to the competition, you are confused.
Calm the butt hurt, this is the way, and it has been the way a long time.
 
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I think you are missing the point really here now. What's the point to include, lets say HD 7970 when it runs 50% slower than an RX 470? Has way less Vram which makes it simpossible to run a lot of games at 1080p even and yet you still want AMD to support this for the new drivers and new game releases? You won't be able to play those games anyway even if they keep the support going.
You people are unbelievable. You want new technologies, features, new fast cards that can run those with a decent FPS (144hz monitors 144FPS and up) and yet you want the driver to support a 6 year old cards that would run all those features and new games (freakin' shit load of games have new engines with so many features and improvements).
I'm not worried that my card will be EoL in 3 year time. I'm really not worried about it. But, if a company wants to push boundaries for new tech and new features with new games which are getting more demanding, you can't cling to an old card's architecture expecting miracles for them to handle these new games and technologies.
You have RT now. You think within a 2 years time a 2060 (even with DLSS 2.0 on) will run a newest game at 1080p with RT on with it's 6GB of Vram? If it does how many FPS you think you will get?
So what's the point for supporting a 2060 4 years from now, if that card won't be able to run any modern game with a decent 60 FPS at least? It costs the company a lot of time and money to support something that wont be able to run the newest games anyway so why bother?
You don't have to agree but that's the way progress and pushing boundaries for new graphics technologies in games is going to be either you like it or not. You can't rely on an old architectures and support for those to make them run faster because that's not what progress and/or advancement is.
No one is talking about the 7970 or all 7000 series......The point here is on R9 Fury and possibly R9 390/290 Cards that are still very capable cards this days in fact R9 Fury performs in between GTX 980 and GTX 980TI/GTX 1070 and those cards are "just" 5 years or so old + Exactly those cards could benefit a lot from the FSR...but hey who cares when you already decided to dress team-red-shirt....GL
 
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ok ok all calm down, yeah obviously you can still use the cards just fine but on older drivers.
It just means that in the future some game might have some poor communication with the card and while a driver could fix it, it wont happen as support for it is dropped.

again in my first post, hence I had to replace my HD6950.
 
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No one is talking about the 7970 or all 7000 series......The point here is on R9 Fury and R9 390/290 Cards that are still very capable cards this days in fact R9 Fury performs in between GTX 980 and GTX 980TI/GTX 1070 and those cards are "just" 5 years or so old + Exactly those cards could benefit a lot from the FSR...but hey who cares when you already decided to dress team-red-shirt....GL
Dude it was an example to express my chain of thought better and to help you visualize what I'm trying to say. read the room bro.
r9 390 is slower than an rx 580 which currently stacks as a higher low end card at this point. That's the progress and the cards are getting obsolete faster because the gaming industry is rapidly progressing. So you want the old r9 390 to keep up with a card like rx 580 in a 4 years time from now? The rx 580 could be obsolete by then if things keep going as fast as they do now.
Use the old driver for your r9 390 and call it a day. You won't be able to play any game in 4 years time but you will be able to play older titles.
 
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The rx 580 could be obsolete by then if things keep going as fast as they do now.
I'd argue that it might not take even two more years, and I own one.
 
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ok ok all calm down, yeah obviously you can still use the cards just fine but on older drivers.
It just means that in the future some game might have some poor communication with the card and while a driver could fix it, it wont happen as support for it is dropped.

again in my first post, hence I had to replace my HD6950.
Well I am totally calm and seriously I could not care less...Me personally I never overpaid for My R9 Fury as I bought that card just before this last mining craze and I probably going to sell it now for double of that price...I just don't get it when people can't see what is the real issue in here and act protective over the multi billionaire corp. instead to protect their own consumers rights........
 
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Well If you think this is a good move by AMD it's OK then......Don't be surprised if they stop driver support for yours 6900XT in a few years......Me personally see that this move as nothing but BAD for US as consumers and after this I am sure that I am done with the AMD GPU's..........
Both GPu brands tend to offer 10 years of active driver support.
Beyond that is untenable, no support for new tech, no enhanced features etc, beyond a point your wasting power unnecessarily by using outdated old tech.
And if you think any company is going to miss people who buy every decade going to the competition, you are confused.
Calm the butt hurt, this is the way, and it has been the way a long time.
 

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About this "current drivers will still work argument": don't forget Win11 is around the corner. They may not work there.

Of course, past some point, you have to forget about older hardware. But AMD seems a little more eager to do so than Nvidia. Not to mention you can't really count the first year or two as "support" as that's the period when you have to wait for the "fine wine" to kick in.
 
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Both GPu brands tend to offer 10 years of active driver support.
Beyond that is untenable, no support for new tech, no enhanced features etc, beyond a point your wasting power unnecessarily by using outdated old tech.
And if you think any company is going to miss people who buy every decade going to the competition, you are confused.
Calm the butt hurt, this is the way, and it has been the way a long time.
You keep repeating yourself....R9 Fury and even R9 290/390 are not even 6 years old not 10 years.....You should start using the Force of Math M8 :D
 
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The coping and seething here is hilarious. People really thought AMD would continue driver support forever, and that evergreen's short life was a fluke, eh? This is AMD, long support was never guaranteed and you knew that when buying the budget brand. Of course anyone who bought slow, hot, late fury was missing a few brain cells already, so I cant really blame them.

I'd guess the only reason AMD was continuing support was nvidia's kepler was still supported, and if they cut support first the internet would go insane, as it tends to do. Notice how all the GPUs they dropped have 4GB or less VRAM? fury was 4GB, 290x was 4GB, everything else was 3GB or lower. Nothing dropped here is a threat to pascal or higher, and even maxwell is awfully long in the tooth. Maxwell and pascal both obliterated the r9 series in total sales, hence why the 290x was at one point $220 brand new. The market today, 6+ years later, is far too small to warrant continued support.
No one is talking about the 7970 or all 7000 series......The point here is on R9 Fury and possibly R9 390/290 Cards that are still very capable cards this days in fact R9 Fury performs in between GTX 980 and GTX 980TI/GTX 1070 and those cards are "just" 5 years or so old + Exactly those cards could benefit a lot from the FSR...but hey who cares when you already decided to dress team-red-shirt....GL
Bruh. Just........bruh.

The 300/200 series are the 7000 series. That was peak rebrandeon. Some of us warned fanbois that their support would be limited due to their age, but nobody was listening back then. The 280x is a 7970, the 380 is a 7870, ece. Then the r9 300 series were slightly updated GCN versions with similar core counts and performance to the 7000 series. We all knew that once rDNA gained traction it would be lights out for GCN, but some didnt want to listed to reason.

None of those cards perform well by today's standards. The r9 390x barely keeps 60 FPS at a mix of high/ultra settings at just 1080p, and that is the most powerful discontinued card here other then the fury. And just look at the steam hardware survey, the entirety of GCN 1.0 combined is only 0.34% of the market, less then the mighty vega 3 iGPU, nvidia geforce 710, or the RX 460. The r9 300 series doesnt even show up on steam anymore. The geforce 970 alone has 5 TIMES as many GPUs on steam right now as all the discontinued AMD GPUs on this list put together. Why should AMD continue to put resources into their old GPUs when most of their customers moved to polaris and rDNA or to nvidia?
 
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You keep repeating yourself....R9 Fury and even R9 290/390 are not even 6 years old not 10 years.....You should start using the Force of Math M8 :D
First reply, to you Or the thread,, so repeating what?!, Wind back the smarm, I get you , six years is lite I agree.

As for dropping fury, so what, it was a bit of a turd day one , six years in and all the updates you Could do won't make that turd shine, AMD moved on, anyone rocking that six year old card now SHOULD expect it to be shit by now because it's efficiency is totally effing abysmal at this point, Both vendors moved the efficiency and performance goal posts way on, and that's forgetting about architectural, and technology improvements that also are not available.
 
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It certainly isn't ten years since the Fury cards were released. It isn't even quite six yet. This is a pretty disgraceful level of driver support from AMD. Nvidia have only just dropped Kepler, yet AMD are now dropping cards that were direct competitors to Maxwell. And Nvidia isn't even fully dropping Kepler, just stopping regular Game Ready updates for it, with more infrequent driver releases promised for another couple of years at least. It's hardly the first time for AMD either. They've dropped cards even quicker in the past. People who bought a HD 6990 only got four years of driver support before AMD pulled the plug and dropped TeraScale entirely.

So much for "FineWine" eh, guys? Another reason to add the growing pile of why you should buy Nvidia (or maybe Intel) instead.

Your comment gave me aids, the fudge did I just read. :kookoo:
 

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Ten Years in, AMD to End Support for Radeon HD 7000, R200, R300 and Fury GCN Graphics Cards

HD 7000 - Jan 2012
R200 - Oct 2013
R300/Fury - June 2015

So... ten years in since what?
 

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10 yr lifecycle seems fair to me. and its not like you still can't play newer games indie or otherwise on older drivers.
 
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I think you are missing the point really here now. What's the point to include, lets say HD 7970 when it runs 50% slower than an RX 470? Has way less Vram which makes it simpossible to run a lot of games at 1080p even and yet you still want AMD to support this for the new drivers and new game releases? You won't be able to play those games anyway even if they keep the support going.
You people are unbelievable. You want new technologies, features, new fast cards that can run those with a decent FPS (144hz monitors 144FPS and up) and yet you want the driver to support a 6 year old cards that would run all those features and new games (freakin' shit load of games have new engines with so many features and improvements).
I'm not worried that my card will be EoL in 3 year time. I'm really not worried about it. But, if a company wants to push boundaries for new tech and new features with new games which are getting more demanding, you can't cling to an old card's architecture expecting miracles for them to handle these new games and technologies.
You have RT now. You think within a 2 years time a 2060 (even with DLSS 2.0 on) will run a newest game at 1080p with RT on with it's 6GB of Vram? If it does how many FPS you think you will get?
So what's the point for supporting a 2060 4 years from now, if that card won't be able to run any modern game with a decent 60 FPS at least? It costs the company a lot of time and money to support something that wont be able to run the newest games anyway so why bother?
You don't have to agree but that's the way progress and pushing boundaries for new graphics technologies in games is going to be either you like it or not. You can't rely on an old architectures and support for those to make them run faster because that's not what progress and/or advancement is.
7970 isn't bad:

Pretty much everything is playable and since FSR came out, 7970 might still run games at 60 fps at 1080p high. That's very respectable for card this old.
 
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No seems like maybe you missing the point the new drivers are NOT Working and they are not going to work in the Future on those cards.....Period....Me and many other people already tried installing the latest driver from today 21.6.1 and you can't install this driver on those cards at all even If you try to force them via installing just the inf file from device manager it's just not feasible to do this anymore....
I think that is understood but you can still install the older driver and it will work. Why would AMD or NV focus on cards that don't support any of the new technologies, features they have created?
What's the point? You can use an older driver if you want to use the card.
Well If you think this is a good move by AMD it's OK then......Don't be surprised if they stop driver support for yours 6900XT in a few years......Me personally see that this move as nothing but BAD for US as consumers and after this I am sure that I am done with the AMD GPU's..........

Can anyone else confirm whether these new cards can actually be used on the specified cards? Conflicting reports here...
 
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