Windows 11 Free Upgrade for Windows 10 Users Only by 1H-2022

beautyless · Jun 28, 2021

Microsoft has just release their Windows 11 Insider preview in Dev Channel Insider program.

lexluthermiester · Jun 28, 2021

Chomiq said:
As for TPM & SecureBoot - sadly I don't think many users are aware of what it is and will simply accept it.

Except for those who have older equipment that do not have TPM(or an older non-compliant version) or SecureBoot and yet would still run Windows 11 perfectly.

windwhirl said:
Eh, I feel like the only guy in the world that has less than a dozen complaints about it lol

I'm with you there. My complaints are few, so far. But the TPM & SecureBoot are deal-breakers...

MikeSnow · Jun 28, 2021

ExcuseMeWtf said:
Not if they keep TPM requirement lol.

Yes, it's entirely plausible that many TPU users don't know how to enable the firmware based TPU in UEFI.

lexluthermiester · Jun 28, 2021

MikeSnow said:
Yes, it's entirely plausible that many TPM users don't know how to enable the firmware based TPM in UEFI.

Fixed that. TPM not TPU...

MikeSnow · Jun 28, 2021

lexluthermiester said:
Fixed that. TPM not TPU...

Thanks. Note to self, thou shalt not post while drunk.

ExcuseMeWtf · Jun 29, 2021

MikeSnow said:
Yes, it's entirely plausible that many TPU users don't know how to enable the firmware based TPU in UEFI.

Those with older motherboards would have to buy dedicated module.

If those motherboards even have such connector to begin with.

Here's video explaining it in more detail:

aindriu · Jun 29, 2021

Windows 11 is nothing more than a beta product at the moment, who wants to try that on their main machine, another year to fix the bugs.

Parn · Jun 29, 2021

As if I wanted to jump on the Win11 bandwagon asap and be a beta tester... No thanks, MS. I can happily wait until I absolutely have to upgrade.

lexluthermiester · Jun 29, 2021

aindriu said:
Windows 11 is nothing more than a beta product at the moment, who wants to try that on their main machine, another year to fix the bugs.

You are missing the point. There a great many enthusists here at TPU and most of us have 2 or more PC's in our home. I have 9 for example. And I have stacks of spare HDD's and SSD's. So testing out alpha and beta software is often a trivial effort for the regulars who visit here. Take that in for a moment before giving any of us grief.

windwhirl · Jun 29, 2021

lexluthermiester said:
You are missing the point. There a great many enthusists here at TPU and most of us have 2 or more PC's in our home. I have 9 for example. And I have stacks of spare HDD's and SSD's. So testing out alpha and beta software is often a trivial effort for the regulars who visit here. Take that in for a moment before giving any of us grief.

And then you have the dummies like me that throw all eggs in one basket and go all beta in their single daily driver :laugh:

ThrashZone · Jun 29, 2021

Hi,
Yeah I'm not all that compulsive anymore especially windows wise I dropped out of insiders nonsense long ago lol
Lack of hardware last couple years has really helped my willpower of compulsive "what the hell purchasing"

Mussels · Jun 30, 2021

lexluthermiester said:
You are missing the point. There a great many enthusists here at TPU and most of us have 2 or more PC's in our home. I have 9 for example. And I have stacks of spare HDD's and SSD's. So testing out alpha and beta software is often a trivial effort for the regulars who visit here. Take that in for a moment before giving any of us grief.

Yep, and i'm gunna get a new SSD (was planning on a 2TB one anyway) and put W11 on that, and dual boot. - no reason it cant store games, even if that aint the booted OS.

lexluthermiester · Jun 30, 2021

Mussels said:
and put W11 on that, and dual boot

And there's your problem. If you don't use a customized iso of 11, you will NOT be able to dual boot with SecureBoot enabled. Last time time I checked trying to dual boot a SecureBoot system was like sticking a red-hot ember in your butt-crack. This is one of several reasons why I have a huge problem with SecureBoot.

Mussels · Jun 30, 2021

lexluthermiester said:
And there's your problem. If you don't use a customized iso of 11, you will NOT be able to dual boot with SecureBoot enabled. Last time time I checked trying to dual boot a SecureBoot system was like sticking a red-hot ember in your butt-crack. This is one of several reasons why I have a huge problem with SecureBoot.

i dont need it to be the traditional dual boot - i can toggle BIOS settings to switch between them

lexluthermiester · Jun 30, 2021

Mussels said:
i dont need it to be the traditional dual boot - i can toggle BIOS settings to switch between them

Another PITA. Use a modded iso. It'll be much easier.

windwhirl · Jun 30, 2021

lexluthermiester said:
you will NOT be able to dual boot with SecureBoot enabled

Did not know that, thanks for the info.

Wait, so Linux can't boot at all with SecureBoot? I thought that issue had been solved...

lexluthermiester · Jun 30, 2021

MJD just reviewed the 22000.51 build and it looks interesting.

windwhirl said:
Wait, so Linux can't boot at all with SecureBoot? I thought that issue had been solved...

Depends on which distro you use. It also depends on how you install. Just a tip, DON'T use both OSes on the same physical drive. Buy separate drives.

Mussels · Jun 30, 2021

I'm gunna be stupid and force W11 to install on my laptop to fart about with it

lexluthermiester · Jun 30, 2021

Mussels said:
I'm gunna be stupid and force W11 to install on my laptop to fart about with it

Be smart about it, use a spare drive. That's what I'm doing.

And follow this ISO building technique;

Mussels · Jun 30, 2021

Oh i get it, he's using the W10 installer to install W11. Sneaky.

lexluthermiester · Jun 30, 2021

Mussels said:
Oh i get it, he's using the W10 installer to install W11. Sneaky.

It works perfectly. Word of warning though, when you first boot the setup, it'll blink the Windows logo and then show a blinking cursor. It's still going, just give it a few minutes.

Mussels · Jun 30, 2021

lexluthermiester said:
It works perfectly. Word of warning though, when you first boot the setup, it'll blink the Windows logo and then show a blinking cursor. It's still going, just give it a few minutes.

can do. when the ISO finishes, i'll throw this on my (almost never used) laptop and see how it behaves.

ThrashZone · Jun 30, 2021

Hi,
Yeah alt+f4 seems to be working fine for now.

Mussels · Jun 30, 2021

Ancient laptops working fine in W11, only had to install the Intel IME driver and card reader driver. Exe's worked despite being for windows 7, which was nice.

I dont have any issues, its not a gaming laptop but all hardware is working smoothly. No slow blinking cursor bug here either, Lex

lexluthermiester · Jun 30, 2021

Mussels said:
Ancient laptops working fine in W11, only had to install the Intel IME driver and card reader driver. Exe's worked despite being for windows 7, which was nice.

I dont have any issues, its not a gaming laptop but all hardware is working smoothly. No slow blinking cursor bug here either, Lex

Your performance experience should be fine. I'm using a laptop with an i3-2310M and it's very smooth. No glitches, no crashes.

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