Thermaltake Announces Availability of Tt Premium PCIe 4.0 Extenders

[btarunr]

Thermaltake, the leading PC DIY premium brand for Cooling, Gaming Gear, and Enthusiast Memory solutions, is pleased to release new PCI-E Extender 4.0 series to the market - PCI-E 4.0 Extender 300 mm/600 mm and PCI-E 4.0 Extender 300 mm with 90 degree adapter. With an easy installation, These PIC-E 4.0 Extenders are the best assistants for weight-bearing graphics cards and avoiding damages on motherboards, with support for a wide range of GPU solutions and fits in any chassis. This series of extremely high-speed PCI-E extenders feature extremely fast graphic data transmission up to 16 Gbps, faster than 8 Gbps of PCI-E 3.0, offering users a wonderful experience for content creating, gaming, or watching videos. They also support PCI Express 2.0 and 3.0 applications.

The extenders utilize the latest materials for EMI shielding with five sole flat cable design, allowing each cable to be fully covered by electromagnetic interference shielding with conducting polymer to guard against incoming or outgoing emissions of electromagnetic frequencies, minimize disturbance and degradation on performance. Inevitably, there may be some folding or twisting when connecting to the motherboard; however, the exclusive cable protector is designed to prevent cable damage and enhance durability. This design aims to avoid signal loss and help achieve excellent signal integrity. The ribbonized format flat cable design is crafted for space-saving, permitting multiple folds and an ultra-tight bend radius to deliver an incredible performance. What's more, there is a version coming with a 90-degree adapter that gives users more selection on display.



PCI-E 4.0 Extender 300 mm/600 mm/300 mm (90° adapter) can save the use of the space without compromising on the performance, which are ideal choices for those who want to build a tidy-looking system!

Features of the Thermaltake TT Premium PCI-E 4.0 Extender 300/600 mm:
Ultimate High-Speed Cable
The PCI-E 4.0 Extender Series features extremely fast graphic data transmission that means the extender is capable of expanding bandwidth up to 16 Gbps and beyond.

Crafted for Space-Saving
Made with ultra-realizable quality, the ribbonized format flat cable design permits for multiple folds and an ultra-tight bend radius while delivering an incredible performance.

EMI Shielding with Conducting Polymer
The extender utilizes the latest materials for EMI shielding with five sole flat cables design. This technique allows each cable to be fully covered by electromagnetic interference shielding with conducting polymer to guard against incoming or outgoing emissions of electromagnetic frequencies, minimize disturbance and degradation on performance, and reduce the weight of the extender.

Unique Cable Protector
The exclusive cable protector is used to enhance the durability of the extender as well as prevent cable damage. Especially, when connecting to the motherboard, the extender is folded or twisted to maximize the internal space and optimize the airflow. In short, this design aims to avoid signal loss and help achieve excellent signal integrity.

Easy Installation
The PCI-E 4.0 Extender Series provides the best connectivity and lifespan. Support both AMD and Intel motherboard. Also, the 90-degree adapter allows users to connect graphics cards vertically to the mainboard and nicely showcase it.

Availability
TT Premium PCI-E 4.0 Extender 300 mm/600 mm/300 mm (90° adapter) are available for purchase now via the Thermaltake worldwide network of authorized retailers and distributors.

For more information, visit the product page of the 300 mm, 600 mm, and 300 mm 90-degree adapters.

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[Sihastru]

The extenders utilize the latest materials for EMI shielding with five sole flat cable design, allowing each cable to be fully covered by electromagnetic interference shielding with conducting polymer to guard against incoming or outgoing emissions of electromagnetic frequencies, minimize disturbance and degradation on performance.

"conducting polymer"

I assume they mean "conductive", however, I hope it's not on the outside, in the sheathing...

 

[Dave65]

I would not trust a device like this from this company.. I see FLAMES... Lot's of FLAMES

 

[bonehead123]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA........

$105 for a pcie extender... are they outtatheirfrigginminds or what....

 

[Chaitanya]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA........

$105 for a pcie extender... are they outtatheirfrigginminds or what....

That's "normal" pricing for PCI-e 4.0 extenders as they are still too few and far in between. Just give time for tech to mature and it will drive prices down.

 

[bonehead123]

That's "normal" pricing for PCI-e 4.0 extenders as they are still too few and far in between. Just give time for tech to mature and it will drive prices down.

Well this is probably true, but I remember buying an extender back when pcie 2 & the multi-gpu thing was being hyped as the next greatest things since sliced bread, and it only cost me like $10.... hell, back then some graphics/sound cards even included one in the box....

Granted that was quite a while ago, but just sayin

 

[zlobby]

"conducting polymer"

I assume they mean "conductive", however, I hope it's not on the outside, in the sheathing...

Yeah, because what could go wrong if they put conductor where insulation should be? /s

 

[dyonoctis]

Well this is probably true, but I remember buying an extender back when pcie 2 & the multi-gpu thing was being hyped as the next greatest things since sliced bread, and it only cost me like $10.... hell, back then some graphics/sound cards even included one in the box....

Granted that was quite a while ago, but just sayin

Rumors are saying that PCI4 extender are hard to make, hence the high price compared to 3.0 extender. I mean even motherboards had to increase the quality of the tracing and layers to comply, trying to use PCIe 4.0 with a 3.0 riser brings nothing but trouble

"The problem boils down to signal integrity. Motherboard vendors at Computex 2019 told us that motherboard traces, the electrical pathways that carry data signals, require wider spacing with PCIe 4.0 compared to PCIe 3.0. The wider spacing, coupled with the increased power requirements for the PCIe bus, necessitates placing the transmit and receive traces on different layers of the motherboard, whereas PCIe 3.0-capable motherboards can carry the signals on a single PCB layer. That means most new X570 motherboards, and their newer B- and A-series counterparts, will come with a minimum of six layers, while previous-gen motherboards would dip down to four layers. That has obvious cost implications that will manifest as higher pricing on new AM4 motherboards. (Edit: There is word that Gigabyte has a few four-layer boards, we're following up for clarification.)

PCIe 4.0 also requires other additives that support the higher transfer rates, like switches and mux layouts, and trace lengths longer than six inches won't be able to carry the signal. Those restrictions would have limited the PCIe 4.0 connection to the first PCIe slot on older motherboards, but several vendors also told us the first slot wouldn't operate at full speeds due to the closer spacing of the PCIe 3.0-designed slots, which would introduce signal integrity issues.

That means, even under the best circumstances, the first slot on older motherboards would only operate at a portion of the PCIe 4.0 throughput (akin to a "PCIe 3.8" or "PCIe 3.7" connection). The increased data errors on the line would also trigger PCIe's error correction mechanisms more frequently, which could introduce data integrity issues."

 

[bonehead123]

Rumors are saying that PCI4 extender are hard to make, hence the high price compared to 3.0 extender. I mean even motherboards had to increase the quality of the tracing and layers to comply, trying to use PCIe 4.0 with a 3.0 riser brings nothing but trouble

"The problem boils down to signal integrity. Motherboard vendors at Computex 2019 told us that motherboard traces, the electrical pathways that carry data signals, require wider spacing with PCIe 4.0 compared to PCIe 3.0. The wider spacing, coupled with the increased power requirements for the PCIe bus, necessitates placing the transmit and receive traces on different layers of the motherboard, whereas PCIe 3.0-capable motherboards can carry the signals on a single PCB layer. That means most new X570 motherboards, and their newer B- and A-series counterparts, will come with a minimum of six layers, while previous-gen motherboards would dip down to four layers. That has obvious cost implications that will manifest as higher pricing on new AM4 motherboards. (Edit: There is word that Gigabyte has a few four-layer boards, we're following up for clarification.)

PCIe 4.0 also requires other additives that support the higher transfer rates, like switches and mux layouts, and trace lengths longer than six inches won't be able to carry the signal. Those restrictions would have limited the PCIe 4.0 connection to the first PCIe slot on older motherboards, but several vendors also told us the first slot wouldn't operate at full speeds due to the closer spacing of the PCIe 3.0-designed slots, which would introduce signal integrity issues.

That means, even under the best circumstances, the first slot on older motherboards would only operate at a portion of the PCIe 4.0 throughput (akin to a "PCIe 3.8" or "PCIe 3.7" connection). The increased data errors on the line would also trigger PCIe's error correction mechanisms more frequently, which could introduce data integrity issues."

Well, although the above issues seem somewhat plausible, I think some of it is just spewy, congobbulated techno-babble that is being used to justify rampant price hikes from the board mfgr's who are trying to squeeze every penny they can out of the so-called "next-gen" hardware before Gen 5 comes around, which aint that far off....

And besides that, making a mobo, with all it's complexities, switches, etc., to support pcie-4's requirements is a lot more involved than a somewhat straight-forward ribbon cable with 2 connectors...

I could see $40, MAYBE $50 for the longest length, but $105...no way, no how, not gonna happen at my house

 

[TheDeeGee]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA........

$105 for a pcie extender... are they outtatheirfrigginminds or what....

Gen 4 cables have high failure rates... as in not meeting 4.0 spec speeds, they can still be used for 3.0.

That's why they cost so much.

 

[Valantar]

Well, although the above issues seem somewhat plausible, I think some of it is just spewy, congobbulated techno-babble that is being used to justify rampant price hikes from the board mfgr's who are trying to squeeze every penny they can out of the so-called "next-gen" hardware before Gen 5 comes around, which aint that far off....

And besides that, making a mobo, with all it's complexities, switches, etc., to support pcie-4's requirements is a lot more involved than a somewhat straight-forward ribbon cable with 2 connectors...

I could see $40, MAYBE $50 for the longest length, but $105...no way, no how, not gonna happen at my house

Given that even ATX motherboards need redrivers for PCIe 4.0 below the first or second slot, it stands to reason that making a flexible riser cable for this same signalling standard is a lot more challenging than for 3.0, where you could use nearly anything. Of course, for 2.0 you could use IDE-style ribbon cable and have it work fine, so things got more complex even with 3.0, but 4.0 is on another level. $105 is a lot (the few 4.0 extenders in existence are around $80), but at 30cm it's also longer than most. 60cm at 4.0 speeds is essentially unheard of at this point.

It's great to see risers like these finally showing up from mainstream vendors - that means there's hope for there to soon be actual competition and prices coming down somewhat.

 

[bonehead123]

It's great to see risers like these finally showing up from mainstream vendors - that means there's hope for there to soon be actual competition and prices coming down somewhat.

Amen to that

 

[svan71]

great loose the red stripe.

 

[zlobby]

great loose the red stripe.

That's the Order of the Red Banner! A high honor in the USSR!

Rumors are saying that PCI4 extender are hard to make, hence the high price compared to 3.0 extender. I mean even motherboards had to increase the quality of the tracing and layers to comply, trying to use PCIe 4.0 with a 3.0 riser brings nothing but trouble

"The problem boils down to signal integrity. Motherboard vendors at Computex 2019 told us that motherboard traces, the electrical pathways that carry data signals, require wider spacing with PCIe 4.0 compared to PCIe 3.0. The wider spacing, coupled with the increased power requirements for the PCIe bus, necessitates placing the transmit and receive traces on different layers of the motherboard, whereas PCIe 3.0-capable motherboards can carry the signals on a single PCB layer. That means most new X570 motherboards, and their newer B- and A-series counterparts, will come with a minimum of six layers, while previous-gen motherboards would dip down to four layers. That has obvious cost implications that will manifest as higher pricing on new AM4 motherboards. (Edit: There is word that Gigabyte has a few four-layer boards, we're following up for clarification.)

PCIe 4.0 also requires other additives that support the higher transfer rates, like switches and mux layouts, and trace lengths longer than six inches won't be able to carry the signal. Those restrictions would have limited the PCIe 4.0 connection to the first PCIe slot on older motherboards, but several vendors also told us the first slot wouldn't operate at full speeds due to the closer spacing of the PCIe 3.0-designed slots, which would introduce signal integrity issues.

That means, even under the best circumstances, the first slot on older motherboards would only operate at a portion of the PCIe 4.0 throughput (akin to a "PCIe 3.8" or "PCIe 3.7" connection). The increased data errors on the line would also trigger PCIe's error correction mechanisms more frequently, which could introduce data integrity issues."

Often less is more.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

It doesnt have RGB for that price? WTF?

I'm surprise this didnt come bundled with a mounting bracket too.

 

[Litzner]

Maybe someone can put NZXT in touch with them, they seem to need some help with those.

 

[Caring1]

Maybe someone can put NZXT in touch with them, they seem to need some help with those.

Not funny and you're living in the past, that fault has been fixed.

 

[TechLurker]

Not funny and you're living in the past, that fault has been fixed.

Not quite according to GN; the last (and possibly final) update on the issue was that NZXT went right back to their old supplier, just with some copper reinforcement, vs the proper pre-final cable that they had sent to GN to test. Some commenters state they got the proper 2 hole variant, while some others got the revised multi-hole variant.

 

[Makaveli]

That's "normal" pricing for PCI-e 4.0 extenders as they are still too few and far in between. Just give time for tech to mature and it will drive prices down.

I would choose this one over the Thermaltake one but you are right pricing is close these cost more than 3.0 versions.

30cm - Ultra PCIe 4.0 X16 Gen4 Riser Cable | 90 Degree Socket | Gen3 Compatible

New 2020 PCIe 4.0 revision. No BSOD, or WUE / WHEA Error free. More headroom works for overclocked CPUs and GPUs. LINKUP Riser Cables feature technology used in the construction of OCuLink, 8639 U.2, and SAS cables that are tested to reach speeds of 160GB/s for the sum of all x16 channels...

linkup.one

 

[Valantar]

I would choose this one over the Thermaltake one but you are right pricing is close these cost more than 3.0 versions.

30cm - Ultra PCIe 4.0 X16 Gen4 Riser Cable | 90 Degree Socket | Gen3 Compatible

New 2020 PCIe 4.0 revision. No BSOD, or WUE / WHEA Error free. More headroom works for overclocked CPUs and GPUs. LINKUP Riser Cables feature technology used in the construction of OCuLink, 8639 U.2, and SAS cables that are tested to reach speeds of 160GB/s for the sum of all x16 channels...

linkup.one

That's the riser in my Meshlicious (well, a shorter version), and it's great. Really hard to get your hands on though.

 

[Rocketlaketx]

I placed my faith in all the hype and trust that the TT Premium PCI-E 4.0 Extender 300mm with 90° adapter works as it’s touted by TT and the experts. Anxiously, waiting for the cable to arrive.

On a separate note ThermalTake need to update their website to be more user friendly. I just discovered that ordering directly from TT cost slightly more than the marketplace?!

The PCIe Gen 4.0 extension better work in all its glory! I trust that the 90° PCIe socket screw down holes matches the Lian Li O11DXL-1 VERTICAL GPU BRACKET.

Motherboards‘s PCIe socket locktabs don’t work with the newer heftier GPUs. Removing the GPU is difficult without snapping the motherboard tabs off, every time, no matter how careful you do it. It’s annoying considering the cost of motherboards?!

 

[Rocketlaketx]

Question is which GPU Vertical Mount Bracket does the mounting holes on the TT Premium PCI-E 4.0 Extender 300mm with 90 degree adapter matches, is compatible to? The riser extender mounting holes and built does not match that of the EKWB -Loop Vertical GPU Holder.

I placed my faith in all the hype and trust that the TT Premium PCI-E 4.0 Extender 300mm with 90° adapter works as it’s touted by TT and the experts. Anxiously, waiting for the cable to arrive.

On a separate note ThermalTake need to update their website to be more user friendly. I just discovered that ordering directly from TT cost slightly more than the marketplace?!

The PCIe Gen 4.0 extension better work in all its glory! I trust that the 90° PCIe socket screw down holes matches the Lian Li O11DXL-1 VERTICAL GPU BRACKET.

Motherboards‘s PCIe socket locktabs don’t work with the newer heftier GPUs. Removing the GPU is difficult without snapping the motherboard tabs off, every time, no matter how careful you do it. It’s annoying considering the cost of motherboards?!

Did it operate as claimed and does the mounting holes match that of the Lian Li? Thank you

 

[Valantar]

Question is which GPU Vertical Mount Bracket does the mounting holes on the TT Premium PCI-E 4.0 Extender 300mm with 90 degree adapter matches, is compatible to? The riser extender mounting holes and built does not match that of the EKWB -Loop Vertical GPU Holder.


Did it operate as claimed and does the mounting holes match that of the Lian Li? Thank you

There's no accepted standard for GPU riser hole spacing, so you need to check for your specific case/mount and riser combo. Also, the person you quoted and asked a question to ... is yourself.

 

[Rocketlaketx]

LOL

that was not my intention, I must have picked the wrong reply button. Age must be catching up LOL Thanks for the awareness.

My intention, was to point out that neither the Lian Li nor the Link Up was compatible to/with the TT

The problem lies with the fact, that you need the GPU, the extension cable and the bracket to establish the actual fitting.