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AMD Socket AM5 to Retain Cooler Compatibility with AM4?

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AMD's upcoming desktop processor Socket AM5 could retain cooler compatibility with the outgoing Socket AM4, according to a leaked technical document related to the socket. If true, this would be the first time that two fundamentally different sockets—one a PGA, and the other an LGA—are designed for cooler cross-compatibility. The document reveals that with a processor installed, Socket AM5 would align with the retention clip and mount-hole spacing identical to that of Socket AM4. This could mean you can carry over your expensive liquid-cooling setup or pricey AIO CLC over from your current Ryzen desktop build.

New renders of Socket AM5 also reveal that the socket locking mechanism is mostly similar to that of Intel sockets, such as the LGA1200, and isn't a downscale of TR4/sTRX4 as was feared in social media. The top retention brace swings along a hinge, and held in place by pressure from a lever that locks into a hook. Depending on the model, AMD Socket AM5 processors could come in TDP values of 45 W, 65 W, 95 W, 105 W, 125 W, and 170 W.



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If true, this would be the first time that two fundamentally different sockets—one a PGA, and the other an LGA—are designed for cooler cross-compatibility.

PGA940/939 to LGA1207 shared cooler mounts. Vendors had the option to ship the standard clip-bracket (I.E. ASUS L1N64-SLI) or to just ship with the backplate and no brackets.
 

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This is very good news. Very good ice cream news. But since no GPU's will be in stock at MSRP then or now, or in 2022 and probably not until a few months after 2023 factories start up their engines...

I mean who cares.
 

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And here I thought LGA based sockets needed that little "bend" that the PCB for from the cooler and thus couldn't use backplates like this. Maybe that was just a myth, but I remember some backplate designs causing issues with Intel setups.
 
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a downscale of TR4/sTRX4 as was feared in social media.
The cpu on TX4/TRX4 slides in then clicks, then lay it down, next you use the supplied screw driver to torque it down in the reveres order you took the screw out in 1-2-3 to 3-2-1.
That fact this was feared on Social meida is hilarious. I'd prefer the TR4/TRX4 then laying it down or dropping it in and screwing up the socket.
 
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Well I already got my new stuff but it's not bad that the AM5 and AM4 will be compatible with the same coolers. If I were to change my CPU and move for new AM5, my water cooler will fit.
Well I'm not going to change any soon but nice touch with the compatibility.
 
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The cpu on TX4/TRX4 slides in then clicks, then lay it down, next you use the supplied screw driver to torque it down in the reveres order you took the screw out in 1-2-3 to 3-2-1.
That fact this was feared on Social meida is hilarious. I'd prefer the TR4/TRX4 then laying it down or dropping it in and screwing up the socket.
Compared to drop in method and Intel's PHM method that TR4/TRX4 method of installing LGA CPUs is light years better.
 

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The real question is why previous new sockets have required different mounting holes and z-heights in the first place....
 
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Is that good news? It is for those who have invested in AM4 cooling. If the new Intel socket needs a different design than can also be used on AM5, then the those who make coolers will have to carry 2 separate lines of coolers, which is not good news. That increases inventory costs up and down the supply chain, which, ironically, costs us more.:nutkick:
 

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Well this is a cost saving Measure, atleast when AM4 came out several Azm3 coolers mounted just fine or an AM4 kit was provided.
 
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