Hack a PC? Plug in a Razer Mouse with Automatic Synapse Installation

[Selaya]

The better question is ... why would I need thirdparty drivers for a keyboard, mouse or headset/-phones to begin with? None of mines require any.

 

[neatfeatguy]

I never liked the Synapse software when I had my 2014 Naga mouse. The software was buggy, it was the culprit for tracking issues when installed and when not installed, it caused my GPU to run 3D clock speeds at all times when it was active and half the time the software GUI wouldn't come up if I needed to access it, so I would have to kill the software via task manager and restart it.

Then to top it all off, the mouse mechanically failed 3 days after the warranty ended. Complete failure on the mouse wheel - wouldn't click or roll and with the tracking issues being a constant problem I just through the damn thing away. I haven't touched Razer items since and this just helps reinforce my decision of never using them again.

 

[windwhirl]

The better question is ... why would I need thirdparty drivers for a keyboard, mouse or headset/-phones to begin with? None of mines require any.

Ultra exclusive functionality! /s

Agreed, though. I feel it's all really moronic. You want to offer RGB in your devices and also offer a way to control the color and lighting? Fine, push for a standard way of doing that with every RGB [insert device class here] ever with a single unified driver or shove it where the sun doesn't shine and go to hell.

 

[Tardian]

The better question is ... why would I need thirdparty drivers for a keyboard, mouse or headset/-phones to begin with? None of mines require any.

For special 'features' and now we find extra special secret sauce!

Ultra exclusive functionality! /s

Agreed, though. I feel it's all really moronic. You want to offer RGB in your devices and also offer a way to control the color and lighting? Fine, push for a standard way of doing that with every RGB [insert device class here] ever with a single unified driver or shove it where the sun doesn't shine and go to hell.

Unified like USB?

I never liked the Synapse software when I had my 2014 Naga mouse. The software was buggy, it was the culprit for tracking issues when installed and when not installed, it caused my GPU to run 3D clock speeds at all times when it was active and half the time the software GUI wouldn't come up if I needed to access it, so I would have to kill the software via task manager and restart it.

Then to top it all off, the mouse mechanically failed 3 days after the warranty ended. Complete failure on the mouse wheel - wouldn't click or roll and with the tracking issues being a constant problem I just through the damn thing away. I haven't touched Razer items since and this just helps reinforce my decision of never using them again.

+1

 

[INSTG8R]

I never liked the Synapse software when I had my 2014 Naga mouse. The software was buggy, it was the culprit for tracking issues when installed and when not installed, it caused my GPU to run 3D clock speeds at all times when it was active and half the time the software GUI wouldn't come up if I needed to access it, so I would have to kill the software via task manager and restart it.

Then to top it all off, the mouse mechanically failed 3 days after the warranty ended. Complete failure on the mouse wheel - wouldn't click or roll and with the tracking issues being a constant problem I just through the damn thing away. I haven't touched Razer items since and this just helps reinforce my decision of never using them again.

All that pretty much covers Synapses reputation rather well, extra points for the hardware quality issues

 

[windwhirl]

Unified like USB?

Unified at the driver level. All mice can use the same basic driver built in Windows. You want to offer RGB? Well, make that a feature the basic driver can handle if the mouse says it has the feature or make RGB standard so that there's a general use RGB handling driver. All this proprietary, manufacturer-exclusive driver shit just for a stupid lightshow is moronic to the core.

 

[Tardian]

Unified at the driver level. All mice can use the same basic driver built in Windows. You want to offer RGB? Well, make that a feature the basic driver can handle if the mouse says it has the feature or make RGB standard so that there's a general use RGB handling driver. All this proprietary, manufacturer-exclusive driver shit just for a stupid lightshow is moronic to the core.

Unified like USB? Sarcasm Alert! USB Z Type 4.5.9.0.8 Version 7 Spin -1 ....

 

[zlobby]

I know we are, in our ways, all clever Dicks on TPU. Did anyone stop for a second and consider that telling the world this insider stuff is like publishing plans for a dirty bomb?

Tardian

Information cannot be kept secret forever and it cannot be destroyed. Sooner or later people learn what they want to know. The truth shall set you free.

The better question is ... why would I need thirdparty drivers for a keyboard, mouse or headset/-phones to begin with? None of mines require any.

Well, if someone needed additional bloat to manage their RGB or whatever, be my guests. My problem with this thing is that mofo manufacturers force us with this bloat with no option to skip or uninstall it completely.

Unified like USB? Sarcasm Alert! USB Z Type 4.5.9.0.8 Version 7 Spin -1 ....

Thank God for Apple! Kappa

 

[ThrashZone]

My thoughts are pretty simple:

Goddamnit Razer.

Hi,
Yeah I'd add microsoft to that as well since they seek and auto install it lol

 

[Rithsom]

*Reads through this thread's replies*

*Nervously inspects own Razer devices for problems*

6-month-old Kraken X headset already developing fatigue cracks:

Me:

Goddamnit Razer.

 

[Rhein7]

This is why I appreciate TPU's mouse/keyboard review. I always pay attention to software section, especially memory usage and such.
Really hate those flashy big ass program tbh.

 

[neatfeatguy]

*Reads through this thread's replies*

*Nervously inspects own Razer devices for problems*

6-month-old Kraken X headset already developing fatigue cracks:

View attachment 214079

Me:

My brother purchased a new headset - the generic one he'd been using for a while finally started to bug him enough to get something newer. The generic headset wasn't great on the ears, long periods of use hurt his ears (like they were getting pinched), but the mic worked wonderfully.

He was so excited to tell me about his new headset a couple weeks back. He had plugged them in and started using it - he got a Razer Kraken....I laughed and laughed once he told me what he got, but I said to give them a chance, maybe he'd like them

He plugged in his new headset and started chatting and he sounded like a little 12 year old girl with his new headset. No bass, high pitched and whiny sounding. I just laughed and laughed at him. He was upset and found he needed to install Synapse software so he could mess with some of the mic settings. He found a lot of settings and thought it was a joke and it took him a lot of screwing around with settings and also he used a few walkthrough forum postings we found online to help and try to correct the whiny 12 year old girl sound his mic made him sound like when he talked. Eventually, after a few hours of dinking around with settings he sounds mostly normal. He's pretty pissed for spending $70-80 on the headset and it sounds like crap with the mic. He said at least the headset is comfortable to wear and doesn't hurt his ears.

 

[Chrispy_]

Ahhhh, Razer Synapse; The unflushable turd The gift that keeps on giving...

 

[Rithsom]

My brother purchased a new headset - the generic one he'd been using for a while finally started to bug him enough to get something newer. The generic headset wasn't great on the ears, long periods of use hurt his ears (like they were getting pinched), but the mic worked wonderfully.

He was so excited to tell me about his new headset a couple weeks back. He had plugged them in and started using it - he got a Razer Kraken....I laughed and laughed once he told me what he got, but I said to give them a chance, maybe he'd like them

He plugged in his new headset and started chatting and he sounded like a little 12 year old girl with his new headset. No bass, high pitched and whiny sounding. I just laughed and laughed at him. He was upset and found he needed to install Synapse software so he could mess with some of the mic settings. He found a lot of settings and thought it was a joke and it took him a lot of screwing around with settings and also he used a few walkthrough forum postings we found online to help and try to correct the whiny 12 year old girl sound his mic made him sound like when he talked. Eventually, after a few hours of dinking around with settings he sounds mostly normal. He's pretty pissed for spending $70-80 on the headset and it sounds like crap with the mic. He said at least the headset is comfortable to wear and doesn't hurt his ears.

Well, hopefully his Kraken will last longer than my Kraken X probably will for me. My Kraken X costed only $40, but still, I once had an inexpensive $20 set of headphones from Skullcandy that never broke, even after three years of use. Not sure if this is a testament to Skullcandy's quality or Razer's incompetence.

As for Synapse, I can agree with him that it is sometimes a nightmare to use. However, I have also used Corsair iCue, Gigabyte RGB Fusion, etc., which are all unnecessarily annoying to use. The thing is, if you want software RGB, fan, pump, or macro controls, you are pretty much stuck with these clunky programs.

The issue outlined in the OP, however, is definitely a Razer-only problem that Razer should fix immediately.

 

[windwhirl]

Yeah I'd add microsoft to that as well since they seek and auto install it lol

I disagree. If Microsoft didn't do that a bunch of things would straight out not work without requiring user intervention, sometimes to a level that a large amount of users don't understand correctly (no, I don't care about that "they should learn how to do it regardless" argument). It could be improved, yes, but auto-install is not at fault here.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

I disagree. If Microsoft didn't do that a bunch of things would straight out not work without requiring user intervention, sometimes to a level that a large amount of users don't understand correctly (no, I don't care about that "they should learn how to do it regardless" argument). It could be improved, yes, but auto-install is not at fault here.

There was a time when m$ didnt do that, they wouldnt support anything except "genuine microsoft products".

 

[ThrashZone]

I disagree. If Microsoft didn't do that a bunch of things would straight out not work without requiring user intervention, sometimes to a level that a large amount of users don't understand correctly (no, I don't care about that "they should learn how to do it regardless" argument). It could be improved, yes, but auto-install is not at fault here.

Hi,
Nope ms could just do what it should do and install a ms generic driver
Mouse/ keyboard manufactures need to include drive disks with their products or simple link to it for download and install.

 

[R-T-B]

Hi,
Yeah I'd add microsoft to that as well since they seek and auto install it lol

Microsoft has been on that list implicitly since they started the WHQL program and just took money rather than checking for driver quality.

 

[bonehead123]

Another reason to justify my total avoidance of Synapse and anything else Razer.

^^THIS^^..... same here.... I've NEVA, EVA liked any of their stuff for any reason, nor will I...

 

[olstyle]

. . . At this point WU-triggered installations should happen in a session without the ability to show anything on desktop.

This!
I mean sure razer should not do what they are doing, but also windows update should never enable them to have such possibilities in the first place.

 

[zlobby]

no, I don't care about that "they should learn how to do it regardless" argument. It could be improved, yes, but auto-install is not at fault here.

See, that's the problem with M$! They neither made it safe and straightforward for ALL users (incl. the ones who couldn't do it themselves), nor did they give the 'powerusers' a choice to skip and uninstall the bloat!

 

[Patriot]

Jup, the Synapse software sometimes just freeze all Keyboard and mouse Input when I play games LOL, lucky I was able to identify the culprit fairly quick and remove that POS software.

Yeah, love my viper, refuse the software install...

 

[Tardian]

Hi,
Nope ms could just do what it should do and install a ms generic driver
Mouse/ keyboard manufactures don't need to include drive disks with their products or they should simple link to it for download and install.

Edit needed? I am being nice. I will then like your comment.

 

[windwhirl]

Microsoft has been on that list implicitly since they started the WHQL program and just took money rather than checking for driver quality.

Blame dumbass Nadella

 

[R-T-B]

Blame dumbass Nadella

It's been going on longer than he has been CEO. Shitty drivers were passing WHQL as far back as W2K.