SpoonMuffin
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acctualy intel would do exectly what has been implyed, they would happly make it so that the phsics engine works better on intel hardware then anybody elses, and game developers acctualy do favor intel already, sse1-2-3 support is COMMON now and has been for years, but many games dont support 3dnow/3dnow+/3dnow pro, dispite the fact that using them can have a very postitive impact on game performance, for an example run riddick EFBB using the 3 diffrent paths on an amd system(3 diffrent exe sets avalable in the games folder)
and game devs for many years have favored Nvidia or ATI, or back in the day 3dfx, this again isnt uncommon, and can cause problems, for example some games that nvidia pays to get made "the way its ment to be played" dont run properly or as well on non-nvidia hardware, in some cases it just takes a little trickery to get them to work properly, example , that old tigerwoods golf game that ran in 3d accelerated mode at high res if u had an nvidia card, but if you had ANY other card it wouldnt run in anything but software mode at low res, but if you used an app to change the ID the game saw for your card to any nvidia card the game would run the same on ati cards and the like as it did on nvidia cards.
or gothic3, the games STUNNING if you play it in a ways, but its got querks in the gfx if your on ati gfx, ones u dont have to deal with if your on nvidia, BUT you can edit the config files manualy and fix them all pretty easly(as well as enabling multi cpu support!!!!!)
this stuff is VERY common, and i can see intel eventuly bullying game companys who want to use havoc or who want to upgrade/update the havoc they already are using into supporting intel platforms better then amd/ati/nvidia offerings, but then it will just come down to the game devs/companys saying "fuck it" and using another engine OR making their own.
but i see this ending up like alot of other intel aquisitions have in the past, it will last a few years then intel will eather sell it off or kill it, or kill off the market use of it then sell it off(they did this with chips and tech gfx chips for example, chips alot of companys used for onboard gfx back in the day specly for laptops)
and to those of you who want to see amd fail and are just sure they are going to tank, you need to look at the past and also take some economics and buisness corses, amd is hurting at the moment due to debt from buying ATI, but that was EXPECTED and they KNEW WHAT THEY WHERE GETTING INTO, they took a short term hit to give themselves a long term benifit.
the problem is that many/most of you have VERY western/american thinking, its all about the here and now, when if you saw it from say the japanese point of view you wouldnt be worried about today as much as years from now, the japanese have OWNED us for that reasion more then any other, they will take a loss now to gain market share and drive the compotition out of buisness then they will sit back and make up the losses once they get production costs down.
example look at the TV(television) it was an american invention, then the japanese started making black and white sets and selling them below cost in the US, as time went on they bought us tv makers that where failing, and by the time they effectivly owned the market they had gotten cost down so that they where making back all the $ they had lost by selling the early models blow cost, its all about how you look at things and how you plan ahead, intel was VERY shortsighted with the p4, they wanted to get as much out of a bad design as they could as quickly as possable, on the otherhand the athlon(all version from classic to k8) was a VERY forword looking design, really if you look at the k8 of today its not all that diffrent from the first athlons that hit the market, amd just refined it and added fetures, and yet many years later intels dumped the crappy poorly conceved p4 nutburst core for one that was around when athlon first came out(p6 core, used in the p3,p-m and now core2 chips), and now amd is bringing out a redesigned chip they dubed the k10, nobody heres seen one yet, and no benches have been posted, but again, this is a very eastern way of dealing with things( i know amd isnt japnese but their buisness model seems to be ) keep things close to the hip till your ready to start selling them.
amd never has put out benches b4 a chip was ready for market/sale, intel has for years put out info months before things where avalable, remmber the early p4ee chips, the ones that they ended up having to microcode fix because they had errors(because they where based on the xeon cores that had the same issues) but they put out benches b4 the microcode changes, and for good reasion, because once patched the chips lost a good bit of performance, quite frustrating for ppl who preordered them!!!!!
blah, as i said b4 we are not likely to see any real changes in the short term, but in the next few years i can see there being some dark changes in havoc.
oh and from what i been hearing the intel cards may not be for desktop use, they may be prof gfx cards like the stuff 3dlabs made b4 creative killed them(dumbasses should have had 3dlabs make desktop and gaming cards......stupid creative!!!)
I am thinking the latter of the two.