Windows 11 TPM Requirement? Bypass it in 5 Minutes

[ThrashZone]

Because many of us HATE and LOATH the UI for Windows 10. 11 is a great improvement and hearkens back to the days of Windows 7. 11 is a return to good form for the UI of Windows and we will NOT let irritatingly artificial limitations and nonsense requirements stand in our way of a better computing experience. We will also not be forced to upgrade/replace perfectly capable PC's just because microsoft says so.

If you don't understand after that explanation, you likely never will, it's all good, continue to enjoy Windows 10. Not everyone sees things the same way..

Hi,
Exactly which part of 11 reminds you of win-7 lol
Can't be the start button menus
Can't be the context menus
Can't be explorer tools header
Can't be settings pages

I believe 10 has fewer changes from the default install than 11 because
At least the start button menu didn't need any alterations
Context menu wasn't totally borked
Explorer tools header/ ribbon at least didn't hide options and all were on tabs.
Settings pages are mostly the same except 10's has more.

Bottom line 10 or 11 doesn't really matter I didn't use 10 very much for anything else that oc benchmarks but saying 11 is like 7 is a stretch lol
Classic shell now open shell works on 10 also lol

And frankly I said on page 2 or 3 that I had to disconnect from the internet or the back button was dead don't believed @W1zzard believed me though lol

 

[Prima.Vera]

Read the news post

Sorry, just saw that. Thank you.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Exactly which part of 11 reminds you of win-7 lol

Are you trolling me or are you really asking for an explanation? It kinda feels like an effort at nit-picking & trolling..

 

[mechtech]

That is a fairly limited amount of CPUs

The AMD 1k series ryzen was about march 2017, only 4.5 years old, and about same with Intel 7k series.

 

[lexluthermiester]

That is a fairly limited amount of CPUs

The AMD 1k series ryzen was about march 2017, only 4.5 years old, and about same with Intel 7k series.

Exactly.

 

[pdaliu]

Thank you TechPowerUp. I've followed the 'appraiserres.dll deletion' method in the 'within windows' section. Win10 was perfectly upgraded to Win11 on my old machine without TPM at all. Personal settings and installed Apps were all there. The same is true for my Win 10 within VirtualBox, too. So far no issues and Windows Update (KB5005635) works!

 

[Mussels]

Wait. Can we do this directly in Windows 10? I mean use this reg, and then start the Win11 setup directly from Win10, not from the boot USB flash.
I want just to upgrade to Win11, not a clean install.
Thank you.

Yup. You can only clean install from USB, upgrades must be done within the OS.

 

[arni-gx]

well.... my pc is still not meet requirement for upgrade into win 11, because there is no secure boot and TPM 2.0......... by PC health check......

 

[lexluthermiester]

well.... my pc is still not meet requirement for upgrade into win 11, because there is no secure boot and TPM 2.0......... by PC health check......

So use a bypass and ignore the health check nonsense..

 

[chrcoluk]

Because many of us HATE and LOATH the UI for Windows 10. 11 is a great improvement and hearkens back to the days of Windows 7. 11 is a return to good form for the UI of Windows and we will NOT let irritatingly artificial limitations and nonsense requirements stand in our way of a better computing experience. We will also not be forced to upgrade/replace perfectly capable PC's just because microsoft says so.

If you don't understand after that explanation, you likely never will, it's all good, continue to enjoy Windows 10. Not everyone sees things the same way..

Odd, I think the UI in 11 is nothing like 7.

Quick launch completely removed, start menu replaced with some smart phone, tablet like start box, forced large icon size and massively padded out icon spacing.

I think its more along the lines, its new, so I must use it, I like new stuff as its exciting. There may be changes that people specifically like though, but the UI is nothing like Windows 7, Windows 10 is closer to 7 than 11.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Odd, I think the UI in 11 is nothing like 7.

Perhaps you should look up the definition of the word "hearken"(see definition #3). In the context of my statement, I was implying that it is reminiscent of the quality and refinement that was contained in the experience Windows 7 had to offer. The UI for 11 has not only been remade to be visually more appealing with organic contours and stylings, but has also been reshaped to be more intuitive, with expanded fine-grained controls(which people are cluelessly complaining about) and intuitive menu/function associations. Granted, there are some imperfections and annoyances, but overall Windows 11 is an exceptional improvement over the laughable experience of Windows 8/8.1/10. I used Win10 LTSB & LTSC. Hated every minute of it. The only reason I used it was for DirectX12 gaming. Otherwise I would been perfectly happy continuing on with Windows 7.

I will never go back to the pathetic joke that was Windows after version 7. For me, it's 7 to 11 and everything in between is the rotten stuff that comes out of the south end of a northbound moose.

 

[chrcoluk]

Perhaps you should look up the definition of the word "hearken"(see definition #3). In the context of my statement, I was implying that it is reminiscent of the quality and refinement that was contained in the experience Windows 7 had to offer. The UI for 11 has not only been remade to be visually more appealing with organic contours and stylings, but has also been reshaped to be more intuitive, with expanded fine-grained controls(which people are cluelessly complaining about) and intuitive menu/function associations. Granted, there are some imperfections and annoyances, but overall Windows 11 is an exceptional improvement over the laughable experience of Windows 8/8.1/10. I used Win10 LTSB & LTSC. Hated every minute of it. The only reason I used it was for DirectX12 gaming. Otherwise I would been perfectly happy continuing on with Windows 7.

I will never go back to the pathetic joke that was Windows after version 7. For me, it's 7 to 11 and everything in between is the rotten stuff that comes out of the south end of a northbound moose.

That was my point though, its not intuitive for a desktop user (in my opinion) it seems they designed it to be optimal for use on a tablet and then just forced that on desktop users as well.

Its like the windows 3.1 UI with its start window except this is restricted to one launch window only.

If you dislike the windows 10 UI, its implying you have not found windows UI intuitive from windows 95 onwards.

Hopefully startisback and openshell guys can figure something out to make it more pleasant for desktop users.

The UI actually reminds me of windows 8, where they removed the start menu in that as well.

Microsoft seem like a lost child, they introduce something, then they get bored of it and remove it or significantly change it.

Do we add live tiles? nah remove it, do we add desktop widgets? nah remove it, do we centre align window text? nah go back to left. But the one thing that proved popular and reliable for people was the start menu, if they just removed quick launch, I could have lived with that, as I could make my own virtual quick launch using mini tiles on the start menu. I ungroup icons, so e.g. if I have 5 notepad open they all have their own icon, as i can work faster that way, and on average I have 50-100 icons at once on my taskbar, with them been forced large icons and padded thats going to need lots of screen real estate.

 

[lexluthermiester]

That was my point though, its not intuitive for a desktop user (in my opinion)

Maybe. But it is VERY intuitive for long time PC users who expect nitty-gritty controls and associations that make sense. Wisely, microsoft has decided to return to appealing to power users, IT professionals and enthusiasts instead of appealing to the common casual user. They have decided it better to cater to the leaders and opinion makers of the industry rather than catering to a user group that has no clue what a concise computing ethic and methodology is. And they have done all of this while still keeping Windows 11 easy to use for the most part.

The common user needs to improve their computing skills and knowledge. We the professionals and power users do NOT need to dumb things down for common users. Those who do not wish to answer the challenge have options, iOS & Android.

I'm not going to bother with the rest of your statement...

 

[chrcoluk]

Maybe. But it is VERY intuitive for long time PC users who expect nitty-gritty controls and associations that make sense. Wisely, microsoft has decided to return to appealing to power users, IT professionals and enthusiasts instead of appealing to the common casual user. They have decided it better to cater to the leaders and opinion makers of the industry rather than catering to a user group that has no clue what a concise computing ethic and methodology is. And they have done all of this while still keeping Windows 11 easy to use for the most part.

The common user needs to improve their computing skills and knowledge. We the professionals and power users do NOT need to dumb things down for common users. Those who do not wish to answer the challenge have options, iOS & Android.

I'm not going to bother with the rest of your statement...

I think we going to have accept we are at complete opposites.

The UI changes to me look like they are catered to the casual user.

Large icons with lots of padding.
Optimised for people who do very little multi tasking.
Changes made to accommodate people who are used to using mobile devices so they are "less confused".

I expect there will be tools made or updates to openshell etc. to make things similar to what they were for the "power users"

Now your reply is written in a manner as if you talking down to me, like its authoritive, if you have any data showing that power users asked for these changes, then by all means provide it, but I do think your post is like mine, its just an opinion. I am not sure what an opinion maker for the industry is either, I hope you don't mean your typical tech journalist.

A developer can design a UI, but it doesn't mean that developer is right in how intuitive a UI is.

I think we should both leave it here, as we clearly not going to even be close to agreeing.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I think we going to have accept we are at complete opposites.

Oh, clearly. Yes. But why?...

The UI changes to me look like they are catered to the casual user.
Large icons with lots of padding.
Optimised for people who do very little multi tasking.
Changes made to accommodate people who are used to using mobile devices so they are "less confused".

And there it is. You seem to be judging based on appearances alone. I'm judging based on system level performances, easy access to system level management tools, system level utilities and a usability that appeals to someone who needs an overall efficient experience. I've been testing 11 since the first days of the 21996 leak and have conducted extensive tests on every build during the beta program to flesh out the functionality of the OS. I started a thread dedicated to that effort.

I expect there will be tools made or updates to openshell etc. to make things similar to what they were for the "power users"

Sure, that'll happen and I look forward to it.

Now your reply is written in a manner as if you talking down to me, like its authoritative

And you inspired that with your comment to me which seemed like it was equally condescending and belittling. Your choice of vocabulary and sentence structure was very telling. If you're going to disagree with someone and you don't wish to invoke an unpleasant response, take care not to word yourself in a way that makes them feel like you're attacking them.

I think we should both leave it here, as we clearly not going to even be close to agreeing.

Agreed. That would be best.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Used the upgrade process and still ms changed updates setting to activate it's torrent features to deliver updates to and from others on the internet instead of just local networks
So check you update delivery settings you might be surprised ms sure didn't save my settings from 10

Odd, I think the UI in 11 is nothing like 7.

Quick launch completely removed, start menu replaced with some smart phone, tablet like start box, forced large icon size and massively padded out icon spacing.

I think its more along the lines, its new, so I must use it, I like new stuff as its exciting. There may be changes that people specifically like though, but the UI is nothing like Windows 7, Windows 10 is closer to 7 than 11.

Indeed without the rounded corners it's win-10.2 funny anyone that hates 10 actually likes 11 lol

 

[wiak]

or just use Rufus and download the iso with that and use the no tpm/secure boot option when creating the usb media

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Yep 3.16 beta2 has been seen to do this for clean installs
The release 3.16 not yet not sure why it would offer the same workarounds

Index of /downloads

 

[Mussels]

Oh wow 3.16 lets you disable TPM from the creation?

That's awesome!

"Add Windows 11 "Extended" installation support (Disables TPM/Secure Boot/RAM requirements)"

 

[Arcdar]

Gone and did it.

As this PC has SecureBoot, UEFI, and TPM 2.0, I chose to install the OS using the Windows 11 Media Creation Tool. I still have not seen a nag prompt about my i7-5960X which is unexpected. The Windows 10 chipset drivers is a must to avoid seeing this:

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Installing option features actually works unlike on the X58 machine. What worries me is there was only two updates queued.

View attachment 220101

Really? Is that all others with fully compatible PCs got?

Anyway, poor design decisions are apparent in this OS but it has been stable. All device drivers that worked in Windows 10 work in Windows 11. Even Asus AI Suite 3 works which is a goddamn miracle, but the Intel MEI driver must be installed first.

Got games to install...

Ah. Thanks for the update on it. Might try it on one of my dual-systems (x99 / x79), too ... sadly both of them DON'T have TPM2.0 but I'll try it out and see what happens - one of them even has a "chinese after market board" and thus I don't even think I could retrofit it with one. One of my trusty Asus dual-socket-boards died after many years and a new x99 asus board was quite hefty compared to 120€ for a chinese one with C6xx chipset to keep the system running . At least when I got the replacement part it was long before the "buy everything in china" hype and the "buy all x99 chips" hype so I still got it for a really really decent price (and yes, C6xx chipset, not one of the "x99" boards which then don't even have the x99 chip on it ) and could keep my two 2690v3's running which are more than enough still for everything I need it for .

 

[lexluthermiester]

Indeed without the rounded corners it's win-10.2 funny anyone that hates 10 actually likes 11 lol

So, are you trying to tell us all that you haven't used 11? Because no one can look at the Settings app and think there are no differences, unless they're on drugs or pulling the mickey. The Settings app alone is a solid reason to upgrade to 11 because of the much more intuitively arranged settings and the greater level of fine-grained controls. Then there is the easy access to the classic control panel and other admin type tools that have been added to and enhanced. Then when you add in all the visual refinements to the UI you end up with a total package that is far and away a better experience than what is on offer from 10. Windows 10.2 this is not. Anyone saying that needs to take a closer look.

Oh wow 3.16 lets you disable TPM from the creation?

Nice! Giving that a test..

That's awesome!

Hell yes!

Index of /downloads

This link now shows a final release.

EDIT; Just tried it. Not seeing any Windows 11 options using the microsoft direct ISO.
Am I missing something?

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
3.16 portable works fine I got the beta2 just encase it wouldn't this was on my 9940x system on win-10 which already has win-11 on it too using the upgrade process here

Just point to the 11 iso with Select search and use Extended windows 11 installation

Might also notice it has windows to go

 

[gytaka]

What is the solution if the machine meets all the requirements (TPM, safe boot, ram size) except that it has a KABY lake core i5 7400 processor?

With thanks for help!

(It's funny that the ms check-software describes the KABY lake core i5 7400 processor as 3 years old)

 

[W1zzard]

What is the solution if the machine meets all the requirements (TPM, safe boot, ram size) except that it has a KABY lake core i5 7400 processor?

With thanks for help!

(It's funny that the ms check-software describes the KABY lake core i5 7400 processor as 3 years old)

Have you actually tried the updater? Delete the DLL file as described in the article, I think this bypasses all requirements

 

[gytaka]

Have you actually tried the updater? Delete the DLL file as described in the article, I think this bypasses all requirements

Okay, thank you. I'll try it, until then I only tried the windows update built-in application. I attach a picture, in the top right corner it tells me that the machine is not compatible for windows 11. (Funny: currently )