• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

Intel Confirms that Arc Graphics Will Not Feature Cryptocurrency Mining Lock

Joined
Feb 11, 2009
Messages
5,536 (0.96/day)
System Name Cyberline
Processor Intel Core i7 2600k -> 12600k
Motherboard Asus P8P67 LE Rev 3.0 -> Gigabyte Z690 Auros Elite DDR4
Cooling Tuniq Tower 120 -> Custom Watercoolingloop
Memory Corsair (4x2) 8gb 1600mhz -> Crucial (8x2) 16gb 3600mhz
Video Card(s) AMD RX480 -> RX7800XT
Storage Samsung 750 Evo 250gb SSD + WD 1tb x 2 + WD 2tb -> 2tb MVMe SSD
Display(s) Philips 32inch LPF5605H (television) -> Dell S3220DGF
Case antec 600 -> Thermaltake Tenor HTCP case
Audio Device(s) Focusrite 2i4 (USB)
Power Supply Seasonic 620watt 80+ Platinum
Mouse Elecom EX-G
Keyboard Rapoo V700
Software Windows 10 Pro 64bit
Joined
Feb 20, 2019
Messages
8,179 (3.93/day)
System Name Bragging Rights
Processor Atom Z3735F 1.33GHz
Motherboard It has no markings but it's green
Cooling No, it's a 2.2W processor
Memory 2GB DDR3L-1333
Video Card(s) Gen7 Intel HD (4EU @ 311MHz)
Storage 32GB eMMC and 128GB Sandisk Extreme U3
Display(s) 10" IPS 1280x800 60Hz
Case Veddha T2
Audio Device(s) Apparently, yes
Power Supply Samsung 18W 5V fast-charger
Mouse MX Anywhere 2
Keyboard Logitech MX Keys (not Cherry MX at all)
VR HMD Samsung Oddyssey, not that I'd plug it into this though....
Software W10 21H1, barely
Benchmark Scores I once clocked a Celeron-300A to 564MHz on an Abit BE6 and it scored over 9000.
Seriously, when is Arc actually launching? Intel has already missed the two most lucrative/profitable dGPU years in the history of computer graphics. "Failure to execute" is such an understatement that it barely qualifies as an accurate description....

Intel's been talking about things Xe/Arc will do for five years now and almost everything they have ever said has become irrelevant because the card never came to market during the lifecycle of those things/topics. I remember Intel promising competitive framerates and solid drivers for their DG2 card ready for Destiny 2's launch in 2017, followed by imminent Xe DG2 launch hype at E3 the following January. That game came and went and all of the hype Intel spun for that was meaningless because we didn't get DG2 then and we still don't have a DG2 today. People have mostly moved on from playing Destiny 2 at this point, and games cycles have moved on half a dozen times since then!

Until there's a released-to-retail dGPU from Intel that normal people can buy, Intel needs to shut the f*ck up and get on with releasing the damn thing, otherwise they're just doing what they've always done. At the moment, despite all the hype, Xe/Arc is still pretty close in product lifecycle to where Larabree was when it was cancelled 20+ years ago.

I doubt Xe/Arc will be cancelled at this point because IGPs are more relevant now than ever, and their graphics tech was built to be scaled up to larger products but the DG1 card launch to select OEMs only with minimal compatibiliy outside niche prebuilts and video encoding builds doesn't exactly inspire confidence in Intel producing a real GPU competitor against AMD or Nvidia.
 
Last edited:
Joined
May 17, 2021
Messages
3,005 (2.38/day)
Processor Ryzen 5 5700x
Motherboard B550 Elite
Cooling Thermalright Perless Assassin 120 SE
Memory 32GB Fury Beast DDR4 3200Mhz
Video Card(s) Gigabyte 3060 ti gaming oc pro
Storage Samsung 970 Evo 1TB, WD SN850x 1TB, plus some random HDDs
Display(s) LG 27gp850 1440p 165Hz 27''
Case Lian Li Lancool II performance
Power Supply MSI 750w
Mouse G502
Joined
Feb 20, 2019
Messages
8,179 (3.93/day)
System Name Bragging Rights
Processor Atom Z3735F 1.33GHz
Motherboard It has no markings but it's green
Cooling No, it's a 2.2W processor
Memory 2GB DDR3L-1333
Video Card(s) Gen7 Intel HD (4EU @ 311MHz)
Storage 32GB eMMC and 128GB Sandisk Extreme U3
Display(s) 10" IPS 1280x800 60Hz
Case Veddha T2
Audio Device(s) Apparently, yes
Power Supply Samsung 18W 5V fast-charger
Mouse MX Anywhere 2
Keyboard Logitech MX Keys (not Cherry MX at all)
VR HMD Samsung Oddyssey, not that I'd plug it into this though....
Software W10 21H1, barely
Benchmark Scores I once clocked a Celeron-300A to 564MHz on an Abit BE6 and it scored over 9000.
no, if it weren't for LHR i wouldn't have my card. Simple as that
LHR doesn't stop miners at all.

LHR only stops ETH mining, but LHR cards can mine at 70% of full speed and there is nothing to stop miners from mining other coins. The current mining default for an LHR card is to split mine 70% Etherium and 30% Ravencoin or ERGO.

Miners will pay a small premium for non-LHR cards but as you can get 90% or more of the mining revenue from LHR as you can from an older (discontinued) pre-LHR card, it's practically a non-issue now that only comes up when troubleshooting rigs for new miners who don't know why their card is 30% short on ETH hashrates.
 
Joined
May 17, 2021
Messages
3,005 (2.38/day)
Processor Ryzen 5 5700x
Motherboard B550 Elite
Cooling Thermalright Perless Assassin 120 SE
Memory 32GB Fury Beast DDR4 3200Mhz
Video Card(s) Gigabyte 3060 ti gaming oc pro
Storage Samsung 970 Evo 1TB, WD SN850x 1TB, plus some random HDDs
Display(s) LG 27gp850 1440p 165Hz 27''
Case Lian Li Lancool II performance
Power Supply MSI 750w
Mouse G502
LHR doesn't stop miners at all.

LHR only stops ETH mining, but LHR cards can mine at 70% of full speed and there is nothing to stop miners from mining other coins. The current mining default for an LHR card is to split mine 70% Etherium and 30% Ravencoin or ERGO.

Miners will pay a small premium for non-LHR cards but as you can get 90% or more of the mining revenue from LHR as you can from an older (discontinued) pre-LHR card, it's practically a non-issue now that only comes up when troubleshooting rigs for new miners who don't know why their card is 30% short on ETH hashrates.

At launch they could mine 0% of ETH or whatever the hell it was, prices were much lower. Helps people get one. Period.
 

Nictron

New Member
Joined
Oct 13, 2021
Messages
1 (0.00/day)
I do not want to be a damp squib but Intel will probably launch their card just as the Crypto market crashes and the market is flooded by second hand Nvidia and AMD cards.

If they launched this now they would gain massive gaming share in the market at a good price. I see this is as a massive missed opportunity!
 
Joined
Apr 11, 2021
Messages
214 (0.16/day)
For the last time, AMD does not make video cards, neither does Nvidia. All their GPUs go the AIBs which them might sell them to miners but AMD does not have a say in that.
They have contracts with their AIB partners, it's still their fault if they don't include clauses to make sure that their intended customers, video game players, can actually receive at least a decent percentage of their AIB cards.
Don't look at Steam Charts for any sensible conclusions on gaming related market share. Its a complete and utter mess, with lots of ancient data mixed with tons of non-gaming oriented systems.
You just need to look at the data in relative terms, the mix-up between gaming/non-gaming systems and old data shouldn't really prevent you from noticing how the RTX 3000 series is slowly climbing up the chart, while the RX 6000 has barely blipped this month near the end of the default list with the RX 6700 XT. Conversely AMD is doing very well in the CPU side of the Steam chart with their overall 30%, which seems to reflect accurately market trends.
Well lhr gpus already failed in the sense that now miners can be using them for full mining hashrate using 2 or more algos, this stupid nvidia act blocking how we use something that we purchased will end as soon as this crypto market crashes because there will be no profit anymore and then gpu prices will crash very hard. If intel dont release these gpus now then they will be going for a very bad start.
It's still not as efficient as using a card with only the most profitable algorithm, Ethereum. As they say, something is better than nothing.
 
Joined
Feb 11, 2009
Messages
5,536 (0.96/day)
System Name Cyberline
Processor Intel Core i7 2600k -> 12600k
Motherboard Asus P8P67 LE Rev 3.0 -> Gigabyte Z690 Auros Elite DDR4
Cooling Tuniq Tower 120 -> Custom Watercoolingloop
Memory Corsair (4x2) 8gb 1600mhz -> Crucial (8x2) 16gb 3600mhz
Video Card(s) AMD RX480 -> RX7800XT
Storage Samsung 750 Evo 250gb SSD + WD 1tb x 2 + WD 2tb -> 2tb MVMe SSD
Display(s) Philips 32inch LPF5605H (television) -> Dell S3220DGF
Case antec 600 -> Thermaltake Tenor HTCP case
Audio Device(s) Focusrite 2i4 (USB)
Power Supply Seasonic 620watt 80+ Platinum
Mouse Elecom EX-G
Keyboard Rapoo V700
Software Windows 10 Pro 64bit
no, if it weren't for LHR i wouldn't have my card. Simple as that

It robs you of the option of mining yourself, it provides less function for the price....
and Nvidia is making dedicated mining cards which are build on / by the same fabs that make all the other stuff so they also take their chunk of the pie.
and those dedicated mining cards will be e-waste....

but ermm you believe whatever you want to I guess.
 
Joined
Jul 14, 2018
Messages
463 (0.20/day)
Location
Jakarta, Indonesia
System Name PC-GX1
Processor i9 10900 non K (stock) TDP 65w
Motherboard asrock b560 steel legend | Realtek ALC897
Cooling cooler master hyper 2x12 LED turbo argb | 5x12cm fan rgb intake | 3x12cm fan rgb exhaust
Memory corsair vengeance LPX 2x32gb ddr4 3600mhz
Video Card(s) MSI RTX 3080 10GB Gaming Z Trio LHR TDP 370w| 565.90 WHQL | MSI AB v4.65 | RTSS v7.36
Storage NVME 2+2TB gen3| SSD 4TB sata3 | 1+2TB 7200rpm sata3| 4+4+5TB USB3 (optional)
Display(s) AOC U34P2C (IPS panel, 3440x1440 75hz) + speaker 5W*2 | APC BX1100CI MS (660w)
Case lianli lancool 2 mesh RGB windows - white edition | 1x dvd-RW usb 3.0 (optional)
Audio Device(s) Nakamichi soundstation8w 2.1 100W RMS | Simbadda CST 9000N+ 2.1 352W RMS
Power Supply seasonic focus gx-850w 80+ gold - white edition 2021 | APC BX2200MI MS (1200w)
Mouse steelseries sensei ten | logitech g440
Keyboard steelseries apex 5 | steelseries QCK prism cloth XL | steelseries arctis 5
VR HMD -
Software dvd win 10 home 64bit oem + full update 22H2
Benchmark Scores -
so, this new intel vga add on, will be very good too for Cryptocurrency Mining, just like all nvidia rtx ampere non LHR and radeon rx 6000 ??
 
Joined
Apr 11, 2021
Messages
214 (0.16/day)
It robs you of the option of mining yourself, it provides less function for the price....
and Nvidia is making dedicated mining cards which are build on / by the same fabs that make all the other stuff so they also take their chunk of the pie.
and those dedicated mining cards will be e-waste....

but ermm you believe whatever you want to I guess.
Well, you have to keep in mind that there's a lot of people who don't need the mining function at all, because they don't care or because electricity is too expensive in their country, for those folks limiting the mining function merely improves their chance of getting a graphic card. You're right on e-waste, but honestly if we're really caring about the environment we should ban cryptocurrencies altogether, at least in countries where a significant amount of electricity comes from fossil sources.
 
Joined
May 17, 2021
Messages
3,005 (2.38/day)
Processor Ryzen 5 5700x
Motherboard B550 Elite
Cooling Thermalright Perless Assassin 120 SE
Memory 32GB Fury Beast DDR4 3200Mhz
Video Card(s) Gigabyte 3060 ti gaming oc pro
Storage Samsung 970 Evo 1TB, WD SN850x 1TB, plus some random HDDs
Display(s) LG 27gp850 1440p 165Hz 27''
Case Lian Li Lancool II performance
Power Supply MSI 750w
Mouse G502
It robs you of the option of mining yourself, it provides less function for the price....
and Nvidia is making dedicated mining cards which are build on / by the same fabs that make all the other stuff so they also take their chunk of the pie.
and those dedicated mining cards will be e-waste....

but ermm you believe whatever you want to I guess.

i couldn't care less about mining, and this way i got a card i would never get at reasonable prices
 
Joined
Feb 20, 2020
Messages
9,340 (5.44/day)
Location
Louisiana
System Name Ghetto Rigs z490|x99|Acer 17 Nitro 7840hs/ 5600c40-2x16/ 4060/ 1tb acer stock m.2/ 4tb sn850x
Processor 10900k w/Optimus Foundation | 5930k w/Black Noctua D15
Motherboard z490 Maximus XII Apex | x99 Sabertooth
Cooling oCool D5 res-combo/280 GTX/ Optimus Foundation/ gpu water block | Blk D15
Memory Trident-Z Royal 4000c16 2x16gb | Trident-Z 3200c14 4x8gb
Video Card(s) Titan Xp-water | evga 980ti gaming-w/ air
Storage 970evo+500gb & sn850x 4tb | 860 pro 256gb | Acer m.2 1tb/ sn850x 4tb| Many2.5" sata's ssd 3.5hdd's
Display(s) 1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24"/ 3rd LG 43" series
Case D450 | Cherry Entertainment center on Test bench
Audio Device(s) Built in Realtek x2 with 2-Insignia 2.0 sound bars & 1-LG sound bar
Power Supply EVGA 1000P2 with APC AX1500 | 850P2 with CyberPower-GX1325U
Mouse Redragon 901 Perdition x3
Keyboard G710+x3
Software Win-7 pro x3 and win-10 & 11pro x3
Benchmark Scores Are in the benchmark section
Hi,
Yeah this was as obvious as the nose on your face intel would pimp to miners lol
Why not amd did to but amd sux at mining from what I've read and it's obvious to from amd availability in stores they just aren't selling.
 
Joined
May 8, 2018
Messages
1,553 (0.66/day)
Location
London, UK
It robs you of the option of mining yourself, it provides less function for the price....
and Nvidia is making dedicated mining cards which are build on / by the same fabs that make all the other stuff so they also take their chunk of the pie.
and those dedicated mining cards will be e-waste....

but ermm you believe whatever you want to I guess.

Yeah they believe anything the fake media throws at them, they really believe we are going through a shortage here, funny the chinese did not stop working like the whole world did and yet they want to justify this made up news --> "electronics shortage". All chinese manipulation and the fake paid media helping the chinese spreading the bs. Anyway, Intel is evil too, dont expect intel coming to save you trolls, they are as greedy if not more than nvidia. The chinese during the last 20 years have been hoarding these rate metals, now they came with the term "shortage" in order to charge 20x what they paid and sheeps believe it eheh, there is no shortage, there is market manipulation and yes they can do that.
 
Joined
May 17, 2021
Messages
3,005 (2.38/day)
Processor Ryzen 5 5700x
Motherboard B550 Elite
Cooling Thermalright Perless Assassin 120 SE
Memory 32GB Fury Beast DDR4 3200Mhz
Video Card(s) Gigabyte 3060 ti gaming oc pro
Storage Samsung 970 Evo 1TB, WD SN850x 1TB, plus some random HDDs
Display(s) LG 27gp850 1440p 165Hz 27''
Case Lian Li Lancool II performance
Power Supply MSI 750w
Mouse G502
Yeah they believe anything the fake media throws at them, they really believe we are going through a shortage here, funny the chinese did not stop working like the whole world did and yet they want to justify this made up news --> "electronics shortage". All chinese manipulation and the fake paid media helping the chinese spreading the bs. Anyway, Intel is evil too, dont expect intel coming to save you trolls, they are as greedy if not more than nvidia. The chinese during the last 20 years have been hoarding these rate metals, now they came with the term "shortage" in order to charge 20x what they paid and sheeps believe it eheh, there is no shortage, there is market manipulation and yes they can do that.

that's some xenophobic anti chinese rant right there
 
Joined
Sep 17, 2014
Messages
22,278 (6.02/day)
Location
The Washing Machine
Processor 7800X3D
Motherboard MSI MAG Mortar b650m wifi
Cooling Thermalright Peerless Assassin
Memory 32GB Corsair Vengeance 30CL6000
Video Card(s) ASRock RX7900XT Phantom Gaming
Storage Lexar NM790 4TB + Samsung 850 EVO 1TB + Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial BX100 250GB
Display(s) Gigabyte G34QWC (3440x1440)
Case Lian Li A3 mATX White
Audio Device(s) Harman Kardon AVR137 + 2.1
Power Supply EVGA Supernova G2 750W
Mouse Steelseries Aerox 5
Keyboard Lenovo Thinkpad Trackpoint II
Software W11 IoT Enterprise LTSC
Benchmark Scores Over 9000
Yeah they believe anything the fake media throws at them, they really believe we are going through a shortage here, funny the chinese did not stop working like the whole world did and yet they want to justify this made up news --> "electronics shortage". All chinese manipulation and the fake paid media helping the chinese spreading the bs. Anyway, Intel is evil too, dont expect intel coming to save you trolls, they are as greedy if not more than nvidia. The chinese during the last 20 years have been hoarding these rate metals, now they came with the term "shortage" in order to charge 20x what they paid and sheeps believe it eheh, there is no shortage, there is market manipulation and yes they can do that.

Disconnect for a few months and when you connect again, stop frequenting social media.

This is madman speak.
 
Top