France is Trying to Ban Wish by Asking App Stores and Search Engines to Block its Apps and Website

[MentalAcetylide]

This is the main reason why a lot of the trade with PRC should be eliminated. It serves no other purpose than to ship cheap/ripped off junk to other countries. I'll never understand why its tolerated... What the OP mentions is just the tip of the iceberg. There's more crap(illicit drugs/base compounds, counterfeit/unsafe merchandise, etc.) coming from PRC than probably any other country in the world.

 

[Flanker]

This is the main reason why a lot of the trade with PRC should be eliminated. It serves no other purpose than to ship cheap/ripped off junk to other countries. I'll never understand why its tolerated... What the OP mentions is just the tip of the iceberg. There's more crap(illicit drugs/base compounds, counterfeit/unsafe merchandise, etc.) coming from PRC than probably any other country in the world.

There is always demand for cheap crap unfortunately

 

[Chrispy_]

I know it's just a saying but by that logic, I'm guessing about billions of people are living under a rock. Most people I know don't even know about Wish.

It's just an idiom. Do you have any idea how hard it actually is to live under a rock?

 

[MentalAcetylide]

There is always demand for cheap crap unfortunately

Yeah, and I think that's due to a lack of education coupled with the fact that for around the past 20 years, even the most simple minded individuals could by a computer and connect to the internet and eventually expanded to hand-held devices(phones/tablets).

 

[Crackong]

100% agreed, burn them

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

Wish, had it coming! Wish was already banned by me, because of fake stuff and apparently no way to avoid it.

 

[Sybaris_Caesar]

I'm conflicted about this. I'm no European have no skin in the game but I sure as hell like cheap chinese wholesale shit and I'm a strong proponent of personal responsibility. Wish doesn't have a good reputation as it is. I think almost every youtuber under the sun has made a "I bought from Wish and got scammed" type of video by now.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

It's just an idiom. Do you have any idea how hard it actually is to live under a rock?

That depends if you Wished for that rock or not.


I'm not sharing mine.

 

[librin.so.1]

What baffles me is that apparently, all it takes to kill a website is delist it from search engines. Do people still type addresses and/or URLs to the address bar anymore these days or do they effectively "google the website" and whatnot? Kids these days can't use the web, ngl.
t. boomer

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

or do they effectively "google the website" and whatnot?

That sounds like me in 1994, LOL! That was also before Google existed! During my very-early days of hopping on the internet, I was required to type in a search engine to find a thing, LOL.
In 1994, IIRC, I hopped on the internet for the first time and I was still a computer dummy at that time!

But, at least since the very-late-1990s, IIRC, I knew how to type addresses, finally. Even if laughably limited, don't remember exactly, LOL. But even then it looked like the internet, was my life!
More true, since 1999, IIRC!

 

[Vayra86]

It's just an idiom. Do you have any idea how hard it actually is to live under a rock?

Its not hard at all!

I'm conflicted about this. I'm no European have no skin in the game but I sure as hell like cheap chinese wholesale shit and I'm a strong proponent of personal responsibility. Wish doesn't have a good reputation as it is. I think almost every youtuber under the sun has made a "I bought from Wish and got scammed" type of video by now.

Personal responsibility takes into account people can choose based on correct information.

And that's exactly the problem of the internet at its core. There is too much information, and people suck at filtering - doing the right filtering is something for the happy few. I know, it sounds arrogant, but its true. The vast majority is utterly clueless, and new generations aren't exactly better than the last. We can blame education for that, and ourselves. The world online moves faster than our institutions and societies do.

That is at least my argument for saying 'yes, personal responsibility is key' while at the same time saying 'regulation is essential'. We need both, so we have guidelines and less BS.

 

[TheLostSwede]

What baffles me is that apparently, all it takes to kill a website is delist it from search engines. Do people still type addresses and/or URLs to the address bar anymore these days or do they effectively "google the website" and whatnot? Kids these days can't use the web, ngl.
t. boomer

Afaik, you need to use the app to shop from Wish, but I could be wrong.

 

[INSTG8R]

Afaik, you need to use the app to shop from Wish, but I could be wrong.

I use it all the time. Can’t say I’ve not boughten some stuff that was kinda cheap junk but most things I’ve ordered have been exactly what I was expecting. My last purchase was a gel seat pad that was actually MORE than I expected. I was expecting a bare gel pad and it came with a nice black cover with a no slip side.

 

[TheLostSwede]

I use it all the time. Can’t say I’ve not boughten some stuff that was kinda cheap junk but most things I’ve ordered have been exactly what I was expecting. My last purchase was a gel seat pad that was actually MORE than I expected. I was expecting a bare gel pad and it came with a nice black cover with a no slip side.

Obviously not everything sold on there would be junk, but you're definitely going to have to be careful with what you order, since I presume there are no returns?

 

[INSTG8R]

Obviously not everything sold on there would be junk, but you're definitely going to have to be careful with what you order, since I presume there are no returns?

I have never even thought about returns but you’re probably right it would be unlikely. I know I’ve gotten refunds on products that just took forever to ship and they are pretty quick. I always use PayPal so I mean if I did run in to any problems with anything significant I’d just use them.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

Afaik, you need to use the app to shop from Wish, but I could be wrong.

I'd be leery to use any app to shop on my phone, I dont even have Amazon on it, and thats about the only place I shop for general purpose stuff.

 

[Mescalamba]

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[robot zombie]

That is at least my argument for saying 'yes, personal responsibility is key' while at the same time saying 'regulation is essential'. We need both, so we have guidelines and less BS.

Agreed. The challenge is how to meaningfully regulate away these sort of things. It's always a moving target. Human beings are often products of their environment and culture. To have a culture of people with a sense of responsibility towards choosing purchases and information online, I think we have to change the whole landscape that people are doing that in, make it one that encourages that by default. The default now is greed. That's what is most encouraged. You can expect people to choose better all day without ever getting close to touching the motivating factors being exerted on them, influencing those choices. It just seems obvious to me that if you want to change the reactions of creatures who are as 'reactive' as humans tend to be, you have to change the environments they are reacting to. I think we need to set a stage that's not so prone to generating and sustaining such things in the first place. I don't think it will ever be enough to make new rules for the existing one. Decades of status quo, just patching leaks, to keep the behemoth going without too much upset leaves the rest of us stagnating in the same old, waiting for the the next quick fix to keep it all going. It's like nothing ever gets better anymore. The same problems just move to new places as society and technology advance.

We can go further, to the general state of consumerism. I see that as but a symptom of where we are in the progression of capitalism. It's a system predicated on some of the very buying and selling patterns that seem to encourage a special kind of ignorance. The behavior needed to make it work, the things we wind up accepting, make us dumb. Or perhaps I should say 'especially shortsighted.' People develop blind spots living in the cultures that bloom from such socioeconomic soil. Thick layers of old skin to shed. But we still aren't heading that way. Some folks are, but it's not enough for individuals to simply be able to see it. As long as consumerism is a dominating force in major societies, there will be things like Wish and so much more. And living in that society, you are almost beholden to the exploitation. Engaging in it and being pulled by it is going to be a matter of course if you have any goals at all. We all perpetuate it as individuals, over the course of just living within this. It's just so much more than anyone can hope to keep track of. The structure we'd have to build to regulate it all effectively would be bigger than the things it regulates, I'm almost betting. I kind of see it as an endless cat and mouse game. Call of Duty: Nazi Zombies. Though the fact that I see it as endless is probably a fallacy of plain human perception. There are many ways it does end, or at least change irreversibly. Global warming being one potential catalyst.

Basically, I think the internet marketplaces for both things and information are just a natural extension of how our society already is. It's not that it's nessesarily outpacing... just as the fastest growing branch on a tree does not 'outpace' the growth of the tree itself. More they are one in the same and what you see online is just a product of how the 'civilized' world as a whole has operated for a long time. It's the next stage AFAIC. I don't know if we can really hope for a different internet without addressing the real world it exists in first. I think if there was somehow some radical change in how economies work, you would see big changes mirrored across the net. Whereas if you try to make the net operate differently than the real world, it eventually gets consumed by the ways of said real world. But that's assuming you can make the leap to see the internet and the real world as one in the same. For me, the internet is not this shadow realm, or some augmentation. It is an actual thing that exists, within the real world. A part of it. Not a discreet space in any sense.

 

[chrcoluk]

Never heard of it before this thread, but noticed when trying to browse it, it wants me to make an account just to browse the site that to me is a big warning sign so left it alone.

Regarding safety regulations why hasnt Amazon been blocked? the site is rampant with chinese based third party sellers selling cheap electrical products and adaptors without proper fuses, earthing etc.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Afaik, you need to use the app to shop from Wish, but I could be wrong.

No, they have a website interface.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Never heard of it before this thread, but noticed when trying to browse it, it wants me to make an account just to browse the site that to me is a big warning sign so left it alone.

Regarding safety regulations why hasnt Amazon been blocked? the site is rampant with chinese based third party sellers selling cheap electrical products and adaptors without proper fuses, earthing etc.

Fuses and grounding aren't safety requirements as such, you can pass safety certifications without it.
However, I agree that there seems to be more and more dodgy products from bizarrely named brands on Amazon these days, making it hard to know what is what.

 

[Mussels]

I cant blame them for doing so, there is a LOT of products sold that are genuinely unsafe and many of those claim fake medical benefits




Shite we're gunna end up with government ran stores equivalent to amazon and ebay for every country, arent we?

 

[Dr. Dro]

It's pretty popular with the boomers, my dad buys some stuff from it every now and then, it tends to arrive a few weeks to months down the road. Nothing important, just random crap really, mostly capacitors and resistors for his radio collection or some cheap tools. Most of it is crap but for the cost of crap, too. Perhaps the only decent thing he got out of there was some pretty neat multimeter and a capacitor tester, though I wouldn't go much beyond throwing more than $10-20 at Wish at any given moment, just don't buy there with any reasonable expectation that you're getting anything but Chinese crap. If Chinese crap is what you "Wish" for, then maybe it's worth a look. Definitely don't use it to buy anything other than low-cost bits of electronics that aren't going to be used for anything serious, though.