Sapphire GPRO X080 and X060 Mining GPUs Based on AMD RDNA2 Navi Architecture Surface

[ratirt]

I think I disagree with the notion that mining gpus decrease the amount of gaming GPUs. Maybe in some way, yes due to shortages but lets look at it from a different perspective. I also disagree with the fact that these cards should have display ports to enable them to use it for gaming. That's not their purpose so why a display port? I think the consumption is way higher and the supply cant keep up.
It's like being mad at a car company for making rally cars, or drag-race cars etc. for example. These are not being used for street driving (forbidden even if you wanted to) with your family and yet nobody complains even though cars are getting more expensive and maintenance is getting more expensive for those as well year by year. You don't have one car you share with your family I'm sure of it.
Why not let enthusiast who like the mining idea have their own corner? As I see it, the demand is big and that is not due to mining per se but I'm sure it has something to do with that since it is a graphics card industry. Look at the computers' usage in a family. Do you guys have one computer at home as it was some time back? Now you have 3 kids and each one has its own computer, (or a tablet or both, not to mention phones) your wife has its own (and a lot other electronic stuff cause she uses the tablets when in traffic) and maybe grandma and grandpa share one but not likely. I remember one computer per family was a norm, now it seems lame and yet people keep blaming company (profit maker, that is important to mention due to expansion and exploration for new markets and I'm sure a lot will agree here from financial perspective) for selling designated mining cards and these people get pissed off there is no graphics card to purchase (or a huge price), to put in their beloved wife's computer cause they need it or their son gets pissed off because fortnite does not run 144 FPS. (it's just an example for those who will say you can play it at 60FPS fine) How can you refuse your beloved ones not to have one of those and see a smile on their faces? So you are getting frustrated and you are looking for someone to blame. And if you think about reusing the older gaming cards in aftermarket or second hand if you will. Sure, but just like the mining cards they will eventually end up in a dumpster nonetheless. Postponing doesn't solve anything.

 

[Testsubject01]

Said by someone who clearly doesn't understand crypto and what the blockchain is doing. *laughs in 3080, 6700XT, and RX580*

Might not grasp the whole topic of "crypto", but he/she is not wrong either. While it might have been founded with the thought of a free, independent, self-regulating, decentralized global form of currency and also has application in data management, integrity as well as data security, it is largely used as a speculative tool comparable to a Ponzi scheme. Not to speak of the myriad of new scams, that got born around crypto.

Well if there are specific mining cards that are better than gaming cards at mining that should help gaming card supply even though chips are getting consumed for mining cards as well. Assuming the price premium for them is acceptable.

That is the "fun"-part of the current crypto mining market, it doesn't.
As long as miners think they'll make a return of investment + profits on any piece of hardware that can mine, it will be bought. Add to that, scalpers also scavenging for any form of supply to make an extra buck as a middle man, and you have a demand that keeps rising virtually into infinity.

 

[Deleted member 185088]

Said by someone who clearly doesn't understand crypto and what the blockchain is doing. *laughs in 3080, 6700XT, and RX580*

Exactly.
The worst part is they want the GPUs to be exclusively used for gaming, basically complete waste of energy, how is this better than mining.

 

[Rithsom]

Exactly.
The worst part is they want the GPUs to be exclusively used for gaming, basically complete waste of energy, how is this better than mining.

Believe it or not, entertainment has a positive effect on people's well-being. Video games have helped millions (if not billions) of people get through their lives, especially with so many being stuck at home over the past two years. Just because you don't like video games doesn't mean that they are a waste. Everyone should be allowed to consume 300 watts of power for three hours a day in order to have some down time.

Mining? Now that's on a whole different level of power consumption.

 

[silentbogo]

Miners don't care. They'll happily put their hands on any GPU they can find.

That's the key point. Deficit affects everyone, so if I had a mining operation going and had few grand to spare - I'd still have to buy what's easier to buy, which is still going to bring me to 2060 Super or even 3060. Both have a much better RoI at real-world prices, even if we assume that Sapphire's price tags hold true and won't be affected by scalping (or if these even make it to the mass market, like CMP cards).

 

[Patriot]

Believe it or not, entertainment has a positive effect on people's well-being. Video games have helped millions (if not billions) of people get through their lives, especially with so many being stuck at home over the past two years. Just because you don't like video games doesn't mean that they are a waste. Everyone should be allowed to consume 300 watts of power for three hours a day in order to have some down time.

Mining? Now that's on a whole different level of power consumption.

You are correct, mining uses less power than gaming/card/hour.