Intel Core i3-12100F & i5-12400F Surface Without Efficiency Cores

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The first 65 W Alder Lake desktop processors have recently surfaced including the i3-12100F, i5-12400F, and i7-12700F which are expected to launch in January. The i3-12100F and i5-12400F are expected to be the first Alder Lake-S processors without any Gracemont high-efficiency cores instead of relying solely on Golden Cove high-performance cores. The i3-12100F will feature 4 cores and 8 threads with a max boost speed of 4.3 GHz while the i5-12400F will include 6 cores and 12 threads running at a max clock speed of 4.4 GHz.

The i7-12700F will feature the same core configuration as the i7-12700KF just with lower clock speeds and a reduced TDP of 65 W compared to 125 W. The packaging for these three processors along with marketing materials have been leaked revealing that the retail versions will include the Laminar RM1 stock cooler. These new Alder Lake CPUs along with various other models are expected to launch sometime in January after CES 2022.



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[Nephilim666]

Can anyone explain the cooler to me? Looks like the fins are made of plastic?

 

[KarymidoN]

Can anyone explain the cooler to me? Looks like the fins are made of plastic?

it probably has a plastic structure that looks like the fins, but just the center is made of aluminum.
probab worst than the old intel stock cooler b/c it has less metal on it.

 

[looniam]

Can anyone explain the cooler to me? Looks like the fins are made of plastic?

Intel is experimenting with new stock cooler designs for Alder Lake

Intel's Rocket Lake cooler, pictured above, has existed in various iterations for about a decade. Intel has occasionally varied the color and made it a bit taller...

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maybe since the server issues are resolved, staff can post the pics (again) here:

First Clear Picture of Intel Next-Gen Stock Cooler for "Alder Lake" Processors Surfaces

All six Intel 12th Gen Core "Alder Lake" processor models launched to date are unlocked (K or KF) SKUs, which lack a boxed cooling solution. This is expected to change early next year when Intel fleshes out the lineup with at least 10 new SKUs for the retail segment; and with "Alder Lake"...

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[InVasMani]

I'd like to see how small this heat sink is w/o the fan compared to the older Core 2 Quad ones. Intel keeps making them smaller and smaller. I guess it's likely just barely sufficient since they are jailed up locked up CPU's anyway.

 

[Why_Me]

Get a job and purchase a $20 aftermarket heatsink.

 

[Kohl Baas]

Can anyone explain the cooler to me? Looks like the fins are made of plastic?

Because it's painted. It has a shiny black powder-coating finish. But it's metal alright.

It looks awesome for a stock cooler. I wonder if the blue lining glows. Probably not though...

 

[Mussels]

Can anyone explain the cooler to me? Looks like the fins are made of plastic?

They are. The actual heatsink is the tiny little thing right at the very bottom, that's an "air guide" made to pretend the heatsink is bigger and meaner than the same cheapo generic intel cooler we've had for the last decade

Because it's painted. It has a shiny black powder-coating finish. But it's metal alright.

It looks awesome for a stock cooler. I wonder if the blue lining glows. Probably not though...

It's transparent in places, it's a plastic frame on top of a boring intel cooler. You can see the actual alu fins at the very bottom.

 

[Crackong]

Can anyone explain the cooler to me? Looks like the fins are made of plastic?

Top fins are plastic, aesthetic only

 

[Vayra86]

Get a job and purchase a $20 aftermarket heatsink.

So if you're out of work you'd still buy the Intel CPU but be stuck with a stock cooler. I know the wages can be shit, but thát bad?!

But yeah... less metal, more plastic and a ring LED. I guess Intel knows how to modernize its portfolio now, and the LED being blue, surely must provide a good temperature reduction.

 

[InVasMani]

I'd rather them just not include the heatsink and drop $20's off the price!

But yeah... less metal, more plastic and a ring LED.

That's how you know it's cooling provided it's blue. Less metal more blue lighting. Besides the less metal they use the more your FAN RPM GO VRRRRROOOOOM!! FASTER = BETTER!

 

[Caring1]

Top fins are plastic, aesthetic only

Or they direct air flow to the VRMs.

 

[InVasMani]

Good catch on the VRM's. I mean surely some of it's aesthetics, but I was actually pondering what was the reason the somewhat odd pattern which the VRM's could be a solid reason.

 

[qubit]

I'd be interested in a CPU with only the 8 performance cores, but something tells me that Intel won't release that...

 

[Mussels]

I'd be interested in a CPU with only the 8 performance cores, but something tells me that Intel won't release that...

Nah cause the reviewers would say "For gaming builds, dont bother with E-cores!" and then the mass-market would follow


I swear the e-cores only exist to add some crunch to cinebench

 

[seth1911]

small cooler with plastic fins on top
On Meteor Lake u get a cooler in the size for old Chipsets?

Maybe the Company im work, should spend some Alu for Intel

 

[qubit]

Nah cause the reviewers would say "For gaming builds, dont bother with E-cores!" and then the mass-market would follow


I swear the e-cores only exist to add some crunch to cinebench

Yeah, maybe.

The way I see the P+E design isn't as an 8+8 core CPU, but as a 16 core CPU with half of the cores having nobbled performance. That's pretty annoying for me, so I'd just rather pay less money for an 8 core performance only model. Or heck, I may just go AMD this time as the Intel gaming performance advantage really isn't all that much. We'll see,

 

[Mussels]

Yeah, maybe.

The way I see the P+E design isn't as an 8+8 core CPU, but as a 16 core CPU with half of the cores having nobbled performance. That's pretty annoying for me, so I'd just rather pay less money for an 8 core performance only model. Or heck, I may just go AMD this time as the Intel gaming performance advantage really isn't all that much. We'll see,

Intel want to win at single threaded benchmarks, with at least 4 cores (since that wins game benchmarks) - theres P cores

Then they want to win where AMD is strong, multi threaded... but they lack power efficiency. How can they do a Zen 1 with lots of cores, without losing the ST performance?
Oh thats right, add both. Chips that say screw the power consumption and go max performance, and chips that add MT performance at more efficient settings, whilst also spreading the heat load out making it easier to cool

 

[Crackong]

Or they direct air flow to the VRMs.

The air will flow to the VRM after passing the main heatsink fins.
There is no point to direct the air out before the main heatsink....

I'd be interested in a CPU with only the 8 performance cores, but something tells me that Intel won't release that...

I bet a pure 8 P core CPU with the same 241W TDP will crush the 12900k in gaming no doubt

 

[Caring1]

The air will flow to the VRM after passing the main heatsink fins.
There is no point to direct the air out before the main heatsink....

Actually there is a point to it.
Less heat directed at the VRMs.
The fan pulls convected heat away from the heatsink, so doesn't all have to be directed down.

 

[Crackong]

Actually there is a point to it.
Less heat directed at the VRMs.
The fan pulls convected heat away from the heatsink, so doesn't all have to be directed down.

Ah
But also less airflow directed to the CPU heatsink.......
I don't think it is worth trading CPU temps for VRM temps........

 

[intrvlvr]

probab worst than the old intel stock cooler b/c it has less metal on it.

Not sure as it brings at least 100 grams more to its weight. It also has to cool down cpus with 58-89W TDP

small cooler with plastic fins on top
On Meteor Lake u get a cooler in the size for old Chipsets?

Maybe the Company im work, should spend some Alu for Intel

You guys are hilarious. You are talking about the fins of the cooler not of the heatsink, which are still of metal. Intel hasn't changed this modus operandi and knows for sure better than you what to do with their chips and their coolers

The air will flow to the VRM after passing the main heatsink fins.
There is no point to direct the air out before the main heatsink....

but then it will be just warm air that hits the VRMs

 

[Mussels]

Not sure as it brings at least 100 grams more to its weight. It also has to cool down cpus with 58-89W TDP


You guys are hilarious. You are talking about the fins of the cooler not of the heatsink, which are still of metal. Intel hasn't changed this modus operandi and knows for sure better than you what to do with their chips and their coolers


but then it will be just warm air that hits the VRMs

Intels CPU's get higher wattage every year, and somehow their coolers get worse

 

[Crackong]

but then it will be just warm air that hits the VRMs

The heat won't disappear and has to go somewhere.
Chocking the CPU cooler will make the cooler exhaust air hot (not warm) then hits your VRMs, so it balanced out your "fresh air".
And the CPU temps sky high.

So Yes, it is better to be that way, moving all air through the main heat sink and let warm air do the VRM cooling.

 

[Vayra86]

Intels CPU's get higher wattage every year, and somehow their coolers get worse

No! Intel CPUs are really still more efficient while gaming, wtf are you talking about. Only when you click Minesweeper tiles open its even more efficient than Ryzen in gaming! And it has an igp to run it too!

The heat won't disappear and has to go somewhere.
Chocking the CPU cooler will make the cooler exhaust air hot (not warm) then hits your VRMs, so it balanced out your "fresh air".
And the CPU temps sky high.

So Yes, it is better to be that way, moving all air through the main heat sink and let warm air do the VRM cooling.

Not really. It depends on case air volume and flow. More volume can reach equilibrium with less airflow, quite simply because the hot air loses temp more easily to ambient surroundings.

In a smaller cases you need more airflow to refresh air faster so the same thing can happen. Placing fans directly on a vrm only helps in a small case and only IF you can exhaust that air quickly.