System Name | Jedi Survivor Gaming PC |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7800X3D |
Motherboard | Asus TUF B650M Plus Wifi |
Cooling | ThermalRight CPU Cooler |
Memory | G.Skill 32GB DDR5-5600 CL28 |
Video Card(s) | MSI RTX 3080 10GB |
Storage | 2TB Samsung 990 Pro SSD |
Display(s) | MSI 32" 4K OLED 240hz Monitor |
Case | Asus Prime AP201 |
Power Supply | FSP 1000W Platinum PSU |
Mouse | Logitech G403 |
Keyboard | Asus Mechanical Keyboard |
How it is possible to compare highend chipset and mid? OFC AL wont be cost effective (its K), if buy enthusiast grade components. If 12400 ll cost ~ 200€ and it ll be 10% faster as AMD counterpart for 320, its a great value. And hopefully there ll be good enought motherboard for this CPU around 70-90€.
As gamer i dont care if E cores are there or not. If ST performance is better (and it is 15-20% compared with 11400). I wan it.
Boards are pricey, because they all can be and should be used only with 12900k .. There is not single board out in my region that cannot run 12900k OC. If u dont buy DDR5 its not. And i dont think, that u need to buy DDR5 for desktop.AL is not cost effective because of ram and motherboard costs.
We will see what amd ll bring to the market. Hopefully they ll bring back non x cpu lineBut that is 15 months later.
Discussion is not about i7 and r9. Its about 12400 and 5600x. Lest stick with this topic. If u game, u need only P cores.E-Cores do matter. That's what makes the i7 a 5900X
uhm .. good for him, but its OT againI just built a 10400 system for a friend, he loved the very low price.
Processor | i5-6600K |
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Motherboard | Asus Z170A |
Cooling | some cheap Cooler Master Hyper 103 or similar |
Memory | 16GB DDR4-2400 |
Video Card(s) | IGP |
Storage | Samsung 850 EVO 250GB |
Display(s) | 2x Oldell 24" 1920x1200 |
Case | Bitfenix Nova white windowless non-mesh |
Audio Device(s) | E-mu 1212m PCI |
Power Supply | Seasonic G-360 |
Mouse | Logitech Marble trackball, never had a mouse |
Keyboard | Key Tronic KT2000, no Win key because 1994 |
Software | Oldwin |
Hah, yes. You're obviously acquainted with Betteridge's law of headlines but not everyone is.turns out omitting a single ? can sensationalise a headline a lot
Processor | Ryzen 7 5800X3D |
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Motherboard | MSI B550 Tomahawk |
Cooling | Noctua U12S |
Memory | 32GB @ 3600 CL18 |
Video Card(s) | AMD 6800XT |
Storage | WD Black SN850(1TB), WD Black NVMe 2018(500GB), WD Blue SATA(2TB) |
Display(s) | Samsung Odyssey G9 |
Case | Be Quiet! Silent Base 802 |
Power Supply | Seasonic PRIME-GX-1000 |
For how long exactly!!? I agree about the iGPU it's a nice have and good point if both are priced the same and taking into context MB costs of both as well. I think iGPU's are nicer additions today on CPU's than 5 to 10 years ago though I'd still have rather seen the 12700K and 12900K forgo the iGPU and used the die space for more E cores. The 12600K seems more appropriate for the inclusion of a iGPU out of the three to me personally. The other two are higher end CPU's treat them as such is how I feel about it.Call me crazy, but i do think that a stronger cpu, at a lower price and power consumption is a game changer.
We still don't know how much b660 will cost, but there is quite a gap between the 5600X and the 12400 expected price. Intel also has igpu which can be handy
Processor | 13700KF Undervolted @ 5.4, 4.8Ghz Ring 190W PL1 |
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Motherboard | MSI 690-I PRO |
Cooling | Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 w/ Arctic P12 Fans |
Memory | 48 GB DDR5 7600 MHZ CL36 |
Video Card(s) | RTX 4090 FE |
Storage | 2x 2TB WDC SN850, 1TB Samsung 960 prr |
Display(s) | Alienware 32" 4k 240hz OLED |
Case | SLIGER S620 |
Audio Device(s) | Yes |
Power Supply | Corsair SF750 |
Mouse | Xlite V2 |
Keyboard | RoyalAxe |
Software | Windows 11 |
Benchmark Scores | They're pretty good, nothing crazy. |
Processor | AMD Ryzen 5 5600@80W |
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Motherboard | MSI B550 Tomahawk |
Cooling | ZALMAN CNPS9X OPTIMA |
Memory | 2*8GB PATRIOT PVS416G400C9K@3733MT_C16 |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire Radeon RX 6750 XT Pulse 12GB |
Storage | Sandisk SSD 128GB, Kingston A2000 NVMe 1TB, Samsung F1 1TB, WD Black 10TB |
Display(s) | AOC 27G2U/BK IPS 144Hz |
Case | SHARKOON M25-W 7.1 BLACK |
Audio Device(s) | Realtek 7.1 onboard |
Power Supply | Seasonic Core GC 500W |
Mouse | Sharkoon SHARK Force Black |
Keyboard | Trust GXT280 |
Software | Win 7 Ultimate 64bit/Win 10 pro 64bit/Manjaro Linux |
I was considering Alder Lake then I saw the stupid board prices, the cheapest was around 100$ than a solid B550 board, worse if you get a more sensible board. I still don't understand how those so called reviewers consider Alder Lake competitive. It's the fastest yes, but cannot compete with AMD till we have reasonably priced motherboards.Exactly. Intel was so far behind here. So far all Alder Lake means is AMD has to lower prices, they don't even need new products honestly except they want to keep their average selling price high. Motherboards are typical Intel double pricing versus B550, a joke. I like my Alder Lake system but it was not cost effective and the entire point of Alder Lake is the e cores, which you get ZERO with the 12400.
Remember... The first X570 boards were around 200 Euros, same game. B550 came later. Same with Intels B and H boards.I was considering Alder Lake then I saw the stupid board prices, the cheapest was around 100$ than a solid B550 board, worse if you get a more sensible board. I still don't understand how those so called reviewers consider Alder Lake competitive. It's the fastest yes, but cannot compete with AMD till we have reasonably priced motherboards.
Processor | Intel i5-12600k |
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Motherboard | Asus H670 TUF |
Cooling | Arctic Freezer 34 |
Memory | 2x16GB DDR4 3600 G.Skill Ripjaws V |
Video Card(s) | EVGA GTX 1060 SC |
Storage | 500GB Samsung 970 EVO, 500GB Samsung 850 EVO, 1TB Crucial MX300 and 2TB Crucial MX500 |
Display(s) | Dell U3219Q + HP ZR24w |
Case | Raijintek Thetis |
Audio Device(s) | Audioquest Dragonfly Red :D |
Power Supply | Seasonic 620W M12 |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Proteus Core |
Keyboard | G.Skill KM780R |
Software | Arch Linux + Win10 |
They're coming Q1'22. Remember X570 was the only option for Zen for about a year.I was considering Alder Lake then I saw the stupid board prices, the cheapest was around 100$ than a solid B550 board, worse if you get a more sensible board. I still don't understand how those so called reviewers consider Alder Lake competitive. It's the fastest yes, but cannot compete with AMD till we have reasonably priced motherboards.
System Name | Lenovo ThinkCentre |
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Processor | AMD 5650GE |
Motherboard | Lenovo |
Memory | 32 GB DDR4 |
Display(s) | AOC 24" Freesync 1m.s. 75Hz |
Mouse | Lenovo |
Keyboard | Lenovo |
Software | W11 Pro 64 bit |
From the O.P. here:The emulation is based on the same six-core, but disabled E-cores. Load line, amps and powerlimits were the same as the QS. I was able to read out the 12400 and use the same settings for the 12600. I have no ideam why everybody is writing 12900... That's simply BS.![]()
Fake newsFrom the O.P. here:
"the i5-12400 was simulated on a C0 silicon, possibly the i9-12900K"
System Name | TheDeeGee's PC |
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Processor | Intel Core i7-11700 |
Motherboard | ASRock Z590 Steel Legend |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15S |
Memory | Crucial Ballistix 3200/C16 32GB |
Video Card(s) | Nvidia RTX 4070 Ti 12GB |
Storage | Crucial P5 Plus 2TB / Crucial P3 Plus 2TB / Crucial P3 Plus 4TB |
Display(s) | EIZO CX240 |
Case | Lian-Li O11 Dynamic Evo XL |
Audio Device(s) | Creative Sound Blaster ZxR / AKG K601 Headphones |
Power Supply | Seasonic PRIME Fanless TX-700 |
Mouse | Logitech G500s |
Keyboard | Keychron Q6 |
Software | Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit |
Benchmark Scores | None, as long as my games runs smooth. |
Haters gonna hate i guess.I wouldnt call it a "Game changer" but more of a competitive product that trades blows with the 1yr old 5600X. Coool?
System Name | Bragging Rights |
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Processor | Atom Z3735F 1.33GHz |
Motherboard | It has no markings but it's green |
Cooling | No, it's a 2.2W processor |
Memory | 2GB DDR3L-1333 |
Video Card(s) | Gen7 Intel HD (4EU @ 311MHz) |
Storage | 32GB eMMC and 128GB Sandisk Extreme U3 |
Display(s) | 10" IPS 1280x800 60Hz |
Case | Veddha T2 |
Audio Device(s) | Apparently, yes |
Power Supply | Samsung 18W 5V fast-charger |
Mouse | MX Anywhere 2 |
Keyboard | Logitech MX Keys (not Cherry MX at all) |
VR HMD | Samsung Oddyssey, not that I'd plug it into this though.... |
Software | W10 21H1, barely |
Benchmark Scores | I once clocked a Celeron-300A to 564MHz on an Abit BE6 and it scored over 9000. |
Easy cake walk. Zen3D will be useless... just look at the difference between 5950x and 5800x. Moar cache only helps up to a certain point. The IPC is still slow.
I think it could be really good for that use case especially with the iGPU codecs support.This baby's going into my HTPC build.
System Name | Fujitsu Siemens, HP Workstation |
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Processor | Athlon x2 5000+ 3.1GHz, i5 2400 |
Motherboard | Asus |
Memory | 4GB Samsung |
Video Card(s) | rx 460 4gb |
Storage | 750 Evo 250 +2tb |
Display(s) | Asus 1680x1050 4K HDR |
Audio Device(s) | Pioneer |
Power Supply | 430W |
Mouse | Acme |
Keyboard | Trust |