Intel Core i3-12100 and i3-12300 "Alder Lake" Quad-Core Chips Tested

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Not only that, but the 53x0G/GE also suck in comparison with the 3300X. If you look at my benchmark results, an overclocked 3300X goes neck and neck with them in both ST and MT. In few other benchmarks they are up to 10% faster. Not what I would call a generational uplift. Also, they can't be overclocked and are limited to OEM market as of now.

In honesty, these budget Zen 3 APUs offer no competition to Zen 2 quads, never mind the upcoming Alder Lake i3 line. Unless AMD introduces a new low price alternative, they'll have nothing to rival Intel in this segment.

Total balls, why because if you are buying a 3350 at this moment, it's because your at the low end of the price for the full pc(4/500£) , and in that case, it's playing fortnight on low at 70fps with no GPU, I put one in , it's not bad ,I should have benched it but it was a quick test.
I'm not saying it beats, Anything, what I am saying is it's as good as any old era quad and some more recent and is presently the cheapest viable gaming pc option add a £50 board and 16 GB of ddr4 and your still shy of the cost of some CPU but it'll do the job ,Cheaper.

 

[Why_Me]

This is one to take with a grain of salt for sure.

Intel Core i5-12400 Beats The Core i9-11900K Rocket Lake Flagship In Leaked Gaming Benchmarks At Less Than Half The Price & While Consuming Less Power

The latest Intel Core i5-12400 CPU gaming benchmarks have leaked out and it sits comfortably ahead of the i9-11900K Rocket Lake flagship.

wccftech.com

 

[ARF]

This is one to take with a grain of salt for sure.

Intel Core i5-12400 Beats The Core i9-11900K Rocket Lake Flagship In Leaked Gaming Benchmarks At Less Than Half The Price & While Consuming Less Power

The latest Intel Core i5-12400 CPU gaming benchmarks have leaked out and it sits comfortably ahead of the i9-11900K Rocket Lake flagship.

wccftech.com

Err, the advertising campaign by Intel is strong. The force is strong with them to make sure that you will spend that money. lol.

 

[Why_Me]

Err, the advertising campaign by Intel is strong. The force is strong with them to make sure that you will spend that money. lol.

There's a reason consumers shouldn't purchase hardware before the reviews from sites such as this one.

 

[ARF]

There's a reason consumers shouldn't purchase hardware before the reviews from sites such as this one.

Nah, I wouldn't anyway because there are AMD Ryzens to be bought.

 

[Why_Me]

Nah, I wouldn't anyway because there are AMD Ryzens to be bought.

I'm not rich but I enjoy PC gaming so AMD is an afterthought for me at best.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

I'm not rich but I enjoy PC gaming so AMD is an afterthought for me at best.

Honestly have a word with yourself, you want me to post you some cheap CPU from both teams, best ,worse , at the bottom end , works well is more than enough often, these might kurb stomp the world but if the world still turns and we still know of people using 2500Ks I'd say your version of shit actually isn't if you don't have a Borgeoi perspective, many kids this year got a pc they have no clue about that's doing well, why?!.

I know.

 

[Chrispy_]

Not only that, but the 53x0G/GE also suck in comparison with the 3300X. If you look at my benchmark results, an overclocked 3300X goes neck and neck with them in both ST and MT. In few other benchmarks they are up to 10% faster. Not what I would call a generational uplift. Also, they can't be overclocked and are limited to OEM market as of now.

In honesty, these budget Zen 3 APUs offer no competition to Zen 2 quads, never mind the upcoming Alder Lake i3 line. Unless AMD introduces a new low price alternative, they'll have nothing to rival Intel in this segment.

AMD and AMD fans alike will claim that the performance uplift from Zen2 to Zen3 was various architectural tweaks and hard work.
I am a cynic and I firmly believe that most of the gains were from unifying and therefore expanding the effective cache size per core. It was low-hanging fruit and the OS-scheduler issues with two CCXs not sharing the L3 cache were initially rectified in software but the added benefit of unifying the cache not only removed the reliance on the schedular but also doubled the effective cache per core.

• The main reason AL is good is more cache.
• The main reason Zen3 is good is more cache.
• AMD's counterargument to AL is more cache.

Call me a cynic, but I think cache is really goddamn important for IPC and the APUs are cache-starved which, coincidentally, aligns with their performance deficit.

Perhaps it's not that simple; perhaps I'm confusing causation with correlation; Who cares? What matters right now is that (until proven otherwise) cache size per core is absolutely the key metric for a high-performing CPU.

 

[seth1911]

Well here for example:

Pentium G6405 1050 rp
Athlon 3000G: 1300 rp
10105F: 1200
10400F: 2025
11600K: 3900
Ryzen 5600G: 3900
12600K: 4700

GT 1030 GDDR5 (cheapest new card): 1900.

So compared to the 10400F + GT 1030 the 5600G is a better CPU and similar graphics, and cheaper, and compared to the 11600K it's about the same, the same price and much better IGP. Compare to the 12600K it's cheaper, loses on performance which is fair but still GPU is expensive.

And of course with cheaper motherboards the 3000G 's a far better gaming solution for basic games than the Pentium and the cost works out about the same.

With the total overpricing of all GPUs and the dreadful performance of Intel's IGP, then the Athlon is useful in developing countries.

This is still based on double priced GPUs, unfortuantely, but AMD remain relevant especially with the 12100 and 12300 not actually available yet

This isnt true, a GT 1030 GDDR5 perform better than the IGP on the 5600G,
the second one is: On the 10400F u can use 0815 Value Ram while u need DDR4000+ for the 5600G IGP which cost nearly 40 - 50% more than Value Ram.

And what did u mean with RP (RP is for Indonesian Rupia) ? and that cant be true cause 1050rp are 9 Cents

A real compare:

11 400F 151€
16GB DDR4 2933 56€
H 510 with 1x M2 61€
GT 1030 GDDR5 89€
-----------------------------
357€


2600G 258€
16GB 4000 86€
A520 64€
-----------------------
408€

 

[Why_Me]

"Intel Core i5-12400 Review: Alder Lake's Gaming Coup De Grace | Tom's Hardware" https://www.tomshardware.com/amp/news/intel-core-i5-12400-review

 

[GURU7OF9]

People are stupidly loyal to AMD or Intel. Me i don't give a shit which i have as long as it is the quickest for the cost. Don't even give a shit if i switch and my PC uses more power. No point being stupidly loyal to either if you care about performance.

i am with you on this totally! thats how i buy my gaming parts! best bang for buck always! mostly they are Intel and sometimes AMD as is now! Alderlake was not out 12 months ago and it is too expensive for mb and ram atm!

 

[Why_Me]

i am with you on this totally! thats how i buy my gaming parts! best bang for buck always! mostly they are Intel and sometimes AMD as is now! Alderlake was not out 12 months ago and it is too expensive for mb and ram atm!

Alder Lake locked cpu's are due for release January 6th and BTW last time I checked DDR4 didn't cost more for Alder Lake then it does for any other platform.

 

[GURU7OF9]

Alder Lake locked cpu's are due for release January 6th and BTW last time I checked DDR4 didn't cost more for Alder Lake then it does for any other platform.

Did i not infer i built new pc only 12 months ago?
Yeah but ddr 4 for Alderlake seems pointless for future proofing. PCIe 5.0 and DDR5 are the way of the future ! Asus are working on an adapter ddr5 to ddr4.
But i would rather wait for 12 months and let everything settle. DDR5 speeds will increase and, prices will hopefully come down and it will all mature! Then you will really see some good gains with DDR5.
Tbh I can't really see massive benefit for gaming upgrading my current system to Alderlake . Kinda pointless, would want to be a big jump. Plus I don't have the money to waste atm.
Def not interested in non k cpu.
Also when Ryzen zen 4 and Raptorlake are both out we shall see how they both compare.
Should be very interesting!

 

[Why_Me]

Did i not infer i built new pc only 12 months ago?
Yeah but ddr 4 for Alderlake seems pointless for future proofing. PCIe 5.0 and DDR5 are the way of the future ! Asus are working on an adapter ddr5 to ddr4.
But i would rather wait for 12 months and let everything settle. DDR5 speeds will increase and, prices will hopefully come down and it will all mature! Then you will really see some good gains with DDR5.
Tbh I can't really see massive benefit for gaming upgrading my current system to Alderlake . Kinda pointless, would want to be a big jump. Plus I don't have the money to waste atm.
Def not interested in non k cpu.
Also when Ryzen zen 4 and Raptorlake are both out we shall see how they both compare.
Should be very interesting!

Future proofing for a platform that won't be mainstream for another 3 years while getting hosed on RAM prices makes no sense imo.

 

[GURU7OF9]

Future proofing for a platform that won't be mainstream for another 3 years while getting hosed on RAM prices makes no sense imo.

Hence DDR5 to DDR4 adapter! But you would want to see how it performs first !
But you still ignore my initial comment i already built myself a new system 12 months ago and Alder lake won't be much faster for gaming than what I already have, so why would I bother switching now !
Just a waste of money for me !

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Hence DDR5 to DDR4 adapter! But you would want to see how it performs first !
But you still ignore my initial comment i already built myself a new system 12 months ago and Alder lake won't be much faster for gaming than what I already have, so why would I bother switching now !
Just a waste of money for me !

I already had 32gb of good DDR4 and the price and availability of DDR5 was absurd. I am still very much enjoying the 12700k even without DDR5.

 

[GURU7OF9]

I already had 32gb of good DDR4 and the price and availability of DDR5 was absurd. I am still very much enjoying the 12700k even without DDR5.

Yeah I get it, but I spent bit over $2k approx 12 months ago on a complete upgrade with
ryzen 5600x cm hyper 212 black rgb,
msi x570 tomahawk
32gb 4x8 gskill ripjaw V F4-3600c16d-gvk
rtx 2070 super
Samsung 970 evo 500gb M.2
rm 850w corsair psu,
fractal design define 5 case .
I tweaked it here and there .
I had to relearn everything but that's ok.
I didnt want to spend much on it .
I'm very happy with it, runs really well no issues and good temps always under 70C for everything!
I was going to buy a rtx3080 but they were hard to get so I thought I would wait. I only game at 1920x1080 anyway.
Upgraded from 2600k @4.6ghz gtx 970 in sli 16gb 2x8gb etc . So no matter what i got it was going to massive boost !

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Yeah I get it, but I spent bit over $2k approx 12 months ago on a complete upgrade with
ryzen 5600x cm hyper 212 black rgb,
msi x570 tomahawk
32gb 4x8 gskill ripjaw V F4-3600c16d-gvk
rtx 2070 super
rm 850w corsair psu,
fractal design define 5 case .
I tweaked it here and there .
I had to relearn everything but that's ok.
I didnt wanted to spend much on it .
I'm very happy with it, runs really well no issues and good temps always under 70C for everything!
I was going to buy a rtx3080 but they were hard to get so I thought I would wait. I only game at 1920x1080 anyway.
Upgraded from 2600k @4.6ghz gtx 970 in sli 16gb 2x8gb etc . So no matter what i got it was going to massive boost !

I'm only gaming at 1080P myself, on a 32" 165hz MSI monitor. Might change this year to 1440, hoping to actually get a better GPU to go with the 12700k.

Think i have just spent about £1300 on chip, board, case, cpu block, pump/res, Radiator, fans.

 

[Why_Me]

Intel: 12th Gen Intel Core Desktop Processor Family Additions and New Platform Options

With the introduction of the full 12th Gen Intel Core desktop processor lineup, the 12th Gen Intel Core processor family also represents the company’s most scalable lineup to date, powering designs ...

www.guru3d.com

https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i5-12400f-core-i5-12th-gen/p/N82E16819118360
Intel Core i5-12400F $179.99

https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-5-5600x/p/N82E16819113666
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X $299.00

 

[GURU7OF9]

I'm only gaming at 1080P myself, on a 32" 165hz MSI monitor. Might change this year to 1440, hoping to actually get a better GPU to go with the 12700k.

Think i have just spent about £1300 on chip, board, case, cpu block, pump/res, Radiator, fans.

I'm playing on Acer XB241H 24 " 144hz TN panel . That is the best thing I have bought in the last 5 yrs . Makes playing fast moving fps shooters like quake live sooooo smoooth !
Picture quality is way better than I thought it would be.
Not as good as IPS but still quite good !
I would have thought 1080p on 32 inch would be quite blocky ?

 

[Deleted member 24505]

I'm playing on Acer XB241H 24 " 144hz TN panel . That is the best thing I have bought in the last 5 yrs . Makes playing fast moving fps shooters like quake live sooooo smoooth !
Picture quality is way better than I thought it would be.
Not as good as IPS but still quite good !
I would have thought 1080p on 32 inch would be quite blocky ?

TBH it is acceptable for me for now. I should really have got a 27" 1080 but this was so cheap so had to buy it. Here is a 1080p photo from my screen, not sure if you will be able to tell though.

 

[Why_Me]

Review done today with a B660 board.

Core i5 12400 processor review

With six performance cores and hyper-threading, the Core i5 12400 might be the most desired budget-friendly and properly performing Alder Lake series processor as a gaming platform. It offers heaps of...

www.guru3d.com

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Review done today with a B66 board.

https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/core_i5_12400_processor_review,1.html

Basically, 1080P better than 5800x, 1440P matches 5800x, 4k matches 5800x Overall not bad at all